Nah. Elves are the real monsters/worse than literally Hitler is the actual point.
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Anime Witcher 2: one of the best storyfag RPGs ever made?
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Nah. Elves are the real monsters/worse than literally Hitler is the actual point.
Lambach
Arcane
The problem with TW 2's story is that it feels kinda disconnected from the protagonist. All the politics, schemes and plots have little to do with Geralt and his story, he was just sort of dropped in the middle of it all because he was at the wrong place in the wrong time. Sure, he gradually recovers his memory over time, but that too was done in a way that feels forced and not organic, except during the final convo with Letho.
The game suffers from the same thing Mass Effect 2 does - as individual games judged in a vacuum, you can say the storyfag elements are pretty good (especially in Twitcher where some choices have truly game-altering consequences), but as parts of their respective trilogies, much less so. Very little actually happens to move the overall story and the plots in both games serve mostly to set up the beginnings of the third games.
TW3 is still the champ in terms of storyfaggotry, at least the parts of the game before you find Ciri (it does take a nosedive after the battle of Kaer Morhen). Hearts of Stone is also written exceptionally well, better than anything Twitcher-related IMHO, and the writing in Blood and Wine ain't bad at all either. C&C is the only thing 2 does better than 3, as consequences in 3 are mostly cosmetic with a couple of exceptions, but that's to be expected because of how big the game is. If C&C in 3 was at the same level as in 2, CDPR would probably still be developing the game.
The game suffers from the same thing Mass Effect 2 does - as individual games judged in a vacuum, you can say the storyfag elements are pretty good (especially in Twitcher where some choices have truly game-altering consequences), but as parts of their respective trilogies, much less so. Very little actually happens to move the overall story and the plots in both games serve mostly to set up the beginnings of the third games.
TW3 is still the champ in terms of storyfaggotry, at least the parts of the game before you find Ciri (it does take a nosedive after the battle of Kaer Morhen). Hearts of Stone is also written exceptionally well, better than anything Twitcher-related IMHO, and the writing in Blood and Wine ain't bad at all either. C&C is the only thing 2 does better than 3, as consequences in 3 are mostly cosmetic with a couple of exceptions, but that's to be expected because of how big the game is. If C&C in 3 was at the same level as in 2, CDPR would probably still be developing the game.
Lambach
Arcane
Did that once just so I could play through the other part of the game, I felt dirty and disgusted for betraying Broche the entire time.
curds
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It is a nice change to play an RPG where it doesn't all revolve around you.
Witcher 3's story is the worst of the series, by far.
Is that really that big of a problem? Geralt is framed for the king's assassination by another witcher, who works for a cabal of witches. His comfy position is now destroyed, and he has to seek answers and/or revenge by following a trail of events. In the process, he discovers that the assassination is part of a much larger and more complex conspiracy (the interesting part is that a lot of this complexity comes from the witches' failures to achieve their ambitions, and covering up for their mistakes to save their plan from collapse) that threatens to reshape the political order as he knows it, and leave very little room for semi-supernatural beings such as himself, depending on which faction ends up coming out on top.
I'd say it's a pretty interesting motivation.
Lambach
Arcane
Like I said, it works a lot better if you judge it on its own merits alone, but if you look at it as a part of a trilogy, it doesn't work so well because very little actually happens to move the overarching plot along. I compared it to Mass Effect 2, which most fans consider the best written game in the series on its own, but the story there feels like it's just filler that you could cut out and miss very little in the context of the series as a whole.
curds said he likes the fact that the story doesn't revolve around the player, but that works a lot better with a blank slate character. If I'm playing a character who already has an established history, personality, motives etc. then I'm more interested in him and his story than a political drama that he sort of accidentally stumbled into due to bad luck.
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It shits the bed really hard after the battle of Kaer Mohren, but the stuff before it is p. gud. Praising the Bloody Baron questline is very cliche at this point, but it does deserve the praise. Hearts of Stone's story is easily the best one in the entire series, despite it also being completely disconnected from the main plot.
curds said he likes the fact that the story doesn't revolve around the player, but that works a lot better with a blank slate character. If I'm playing a character who already has an established history, personality, motives etc. then I'm more interested in him and his story than a political drama that he sort of accidentally stumbled into due to bad luck.
EDIT:
It shits the bed really hard after the battle of Kaer Mohren, but the stuff before it is p. gud. Praising the Bloody Baron questline is very cliche at this point, but it does deserve the praise. Hearts of Stone's story is easily the best one in the entire series, despite it also being completely disconnected from the main plot.
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Satan shows up to make faustian deals with people for teh lulz, and then Geralt beats him somehow by going through weird alternate dimensions and solving a lame puzzle? Czarnuchu, proszę.
Morenatsu.
Liturgist
bitcher 2 looks and feels so bad to play
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Lambach
Arcane
Geralt works as a personal bodyguard for a king, but then the king gets murdered and Geralt is accused of doing it. Geralt must hunt down the real killer to clear his name, which he eventually does, and then has to make a decision whether to kill him or let him go.
Man, what a lame, cliche story, amirite? It's almost as if you reduce it to a couple of sentences and don't mention 95% of it, no story sounds good.
Lambach
Arcane
You shouldn't, caring about the protagonist of a story that you spend hours of your life on is for faggots. Imagine caring about the witcher in a video-game trilogy called "The Witcher", lmaoooo, who does that?
Reinhardt
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Exactly. That's why i dropped it.
Morenatsu.
Liturgist
Geralt is fine, it's the other characters I don't give a shit about.
you goyim should buy several more copies of twitcher 2 if you enjoy it so much
please do
please do
Falksi
Arcane
Witcher 2 is the best buddy-cop game I can think of, with both Roach and Iorveth being top lads and great characters.
Triss is hot as fuck, submissive as fuck, and you do her from behind. What more do you want?
And you even get to kill and castrate a homo in Dethmold.
If you're not into the Witcher 2 characters, it's really a reflection on how bent you are in real life.
Triss is hot as fuck, submissive as fuck, and you do her from behind. What more do you want?
And you even get to kill and castrate a homo in Dethmold.
If you're not into the Witcher 2 characters, it's really a reflection on how bent you are in real life.
Heroic Liberator
Arcane
TW2 is more consistent in its narrative quality, while TW3 fluctuates (while still having some great stuff, particularly in the side stories and the DLCs). Although the latter can be blamed on the game being rushed, even if it's not to the same degree as Cyberpunk 2077. Aforementioned plague side story being cut, Wild Hunt invasion of Novigrad being scrapped etc etc.
stop repeating yourself every page you spastic
Lambach
Arcane
Submissive? Lulz, maybe in the sack. Outside of it, she's playing Geralt like a fiddle for the better part of the first two games and the poor dumb bastard is too enamoured by her ginger pussy to realize it until the finale of the second game.
Sapkowski made sure there are no "submissive" sorceress in the Witcher universe, they were his metaphor for stronk empowered wombyn of our world in the first place.
Witcher 2 would be great if it weren't for that absurd "villain" that doesn't makes sense even when you know his reasons. The other side characters also feel unidimensional and cartoonish(except for Roche maybe) and the branching story achieves to make the player miss half the details of a great plot. I wouldn't mind to play twice the game but the shitty combat prevents me to do so.
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