Zenimax/Bethesda head has history of bribery

[deuxhero]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/po ... cliff3.htm

This was tweeted by the Minecraft guy, but pulled a bit after.

Like I needed further evidence of paying for reviews.

 

[GreyViper]

Clifford and Altman have repeatedly declared that they did not mislead regulators, but in fact were duped themselves by foreign investors whom they trusted.

Am I the oly one who sees how silly/absurd this statement is, I mean wow really? That raises a question is Beth front for money laundering to Zenimax?

 

[curry]

They can't bribe me though. I'm gonna pour shit on them

 

[Mangoose]

Wikipedia:

On January 29, 1984, Robert married Wonder Woman actress Lynda Carter.

:derp:

 

[Destroid]

1992 man.

 

[dr.krap]

Haha. Altman is The Gray Fox.

 

[Marobug]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/oct98/cliff3.htm

This was tweeted by the Minecraft guy, but pulled a bit after.

Like I needed further evidence of paying for reviews.

Given that 95% of the press (including obscure blogs and sites) gave most if not all of their major games good reviews, is that supposed to mean they bought each every review for each and every game?
All this based on a 1992 investigation that ended with him being acquitted of all charges ?
Makes sense.

 

[Damned Registrations]

You act like that would be difficult to do. Publicity is already a huge part of any game's budget. You want to get a slice, you write a nice review. Write a shit review, ads get pulled and your site is blacklisted for further ads.

 

[.Sigurd]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/oct98/cliff3.htm

This was tweeted by the Minecraft guy, but pulled a bit after.

Like I needed further evidence of paying for reviews.

Given that 95% of the press (including obscure blogs and sites) gave most if not all of their major games good reviews, is that supposed to mean they bought each every review for each and every game?
All this based on a 1992 investigation that ended with him being acquitted of all charges ?
Makes sense.

Why a publisher would let their developers give a interview or preview for a site that gave bad scores in the past?

 

[Marobug]

You act like that would be difficult to do. Publicity is already a huge part of any game's budget. You want to get a slice, you write a nice review. Write a shit review, ads get pulled and your site is blacklisted for further ads.

That work both ways, blacklisting a major sites/magazines like gamespot, ign or PC gamer is a dumb idea for multiple reasons. Not doing business with them is bad for both parties, one loses massive publicity opportunities and the other loses potential advertisement money. And when I say the publisher loses massive publicity opportunities I'm not just talking about ads in that specific site or magazine, but also press coverage, interviews etc and as you probably know, no hype, no sales.

Threatening to blacklisting the entire internet+printed press is not only impossible, it's also a pretty dumb idea and editors aren't stupid, they know better than anyone the press need publishers as much publishers need press.

 

[Jaesun]

Man 1992... I had my Amiga 500.

I miss my Amiga 500....

 

[BLOBERT]

BROS I AM NOT INTO VAST CONSPIRACIES AND SHIT BUT THE GAMING MEDIA NEEEDS THE GAMING COMPANIES BUSINESSS MUCH MORE THAN VICE VERSA

PROBABLY JST A CULTURAL OF FAVORS OR GETTING FUCKED AND NO ONE CARES BECAUSE GAMING JOURNALISM IS VIEWED AS THE ARTISTIC EQUIVALENT OF FINGERPAINTING BY MOST PEOPLE BROS LIKE ROGER EBERT HAVE GOT STREET CRED SO HE CAN SAY WHAT THE FUCK HE WANTS

 

[Wyrmlord]

I agree with Blobert.

Why do people demand high standards from videogame journalism, when most of us would rather be caught dead than be doing a shitty dead end job like reviewing videogames?

 

[Mangoose]

Why do people demand high standards from videogame journalism, when most of us would rather be caught dead than be doing a shitty dead end job like reviewing videogames?

Because if videogame journalism had high standards, reviewing videogames would not be considered a dead-end job.

 

[SCO]

But that would imply the videogames were good

paradoxxx

 

[Roguey]

I agree with Blobert.

Why do people demand high standards from videogame journalism, when most of us would rather be caught dead than be doing a shitty dead end job like reviewing videogames?

http://gillen.cream.org/wordpress_html/?p=1877
Kieron Gillen says it's a highly competitive environment full of talented people. He now writes super hero comics for adult children. Something to consider.

 

[Mangoose]

Do you think Todd and Pete get to hang out with Wonder Woman? So not fair.

 

[dbx]

Man 1992... I had my Amiga 500.

I miss my Amiga 500....

And i was playing Alien Breed and Turrican 2

 

[Wyrmlord]

Why do people demand high standards from videogame journalism, when most of us would rather be caught dead than be doing a shitty dead end job like reviewing videogames?

Because if videogame journalism had high standards, reviewing videogames would not be considered a dead-end job.

Gosh man, videogames are just for fun. Light hearted kiddy fun, even Fallout.

There is no point in worrying your pretty little heads about videogame criticism, as if you are critiquing the Mona Lisa. That's why these games journalism are really just PR for gaming. It's not for real.

Because no sane person would do some kind of a literary analysis of the depth of a children's hobby.

 

[Mangoose]

Why do people demand high standards from videogame journalism, when most of us would rather be caught dead than be doing a shitty dead end job like reviewing videogames?

Because if videogame journalism had high standards, reviewing videogames would not be considered a dead-end job.

Gosh man, videogames are just for fun. Light hearted kiddy fun, even Fallout.

There is no point in worrying your pretty little heads about videogame criticism, as if you are critiquing the Mona Lisa. That's why these games journalism are really just PR for gaming. It's not for real.

Because no sane person would do some kind of a literary analysis of the depth of a children's hobby.

Who talked about art? Blobert mentioned Ebert, a movie reviewer - You should know, since you agreed with him.

If reviewing $50 gaming products is for "fun," then why do movie reviewers such as Ebert and Roeper get so much credit - and are demanded high standards - for reviewing the whole plethora of shitty popcorn flicks that only cost $10 to watch?

And what does literary analysis have to do with gaming?

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

Why do people demand high standards from videogame journalism, when most of us would rather be caught dead than be doing a shitty dead end job like reviewing videogames?

Because if videogame journalism had high standards, reviewing videogames would not be considered a dead-end job.

Gosh man, videogames are just for fun. Light hearted kiddy fun, even Fallout.

There is no point in worrying your pretty little heads about videogame criticism, as if you are critiquing the Mona Lisa.

I don't know why you seem to be imagining that all the other forms of entertainment are something more serious and not just for fun. Yes, even Mona Lisa is just a picture for light hearted kiddy fun.

That's why these games journalism are really just PR for gaming. It's not for real.

Games are expensive. Very expensive. I want to know what the game is like when reading the review. It's something that 90% of game journalists, even those "critical" fails to deliver. I want to know whenever the game is something that I will have fun with or not and whenever it advances the mechanics of the genre or regresses them before spending 100-200PLN on it.

 

[Raapys]

Why do people demand high standards from videogame journalism, when most of us would rather be caught dead than be doing a shitty dead end job like reviewing videogames?

Because if videogame journalism had high standards, reviewing videogames would not be considered a dead-end job.

Gosh man, videogames are just for fun. Light hearted kiddy fun, even Fallout.

There is no point in worrying your pretty little heads about videogame criticism, as if you are critiquing the Mona Lisa. That's why these games journalism are really just PR for gaming. It's not for real.

Because no sane person would do some kind of a literary analysis of the depth of a children's hobby.

All hobbies are for fun.

 

[abnaxus]

Do you think Todd and Pete get to hang out with Wonder Woman? So not fair.

 

[RK47]

Oh god. :mind blown:

 

[deus101]

And what does literary analysis have to do with gaming?

You obviusly havent been to gamasutra

They take David Gaider seriusly there.