In Progress 东方红: A Hoi3 Communist China Ret's Pray

[oscar]

I've never tried HoI3. The AI seems a lot more aggressive and competent at naval landings.

 

[Cassidy]

Here my suggestion for you, Jugashvili , supposing the game won't end by 1961:

ABANDON PETTY NATIONALISM AND SQUABBLES OVER MINOR IDEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES, DO NOT FORGET TO INVITE DEAR LEADER KIM IL-SUNG TO AN UNITED GLOBAL COMMUNIST PARTY, THEN BRING SOCIALISM TO THE ENTIRE EARTH!

 

[Jugashvili]

I've never tried HoI3. The AI seems a lot more aggressive and competent at naval landings.

It is. They will usually land two forces at either flank of a major port and immediately strike at it, thus securing their supply lines and the flow of reinforcements. A couple of garrisson divisions on each port will usually deter them, but not always, and if they do land they can usually muscle their way into the port anyways. They are also pretty apt at avoiding encirclements and will defend their supply lines competently enough. My usual anti-landing strategy is to lure them inland to force them to spread their troops out too thinly, break the line at one point and go for the harbors.

Here my suggestion for you, Jugashvili , supposing the game won't end by 1961:

ABANDON PETTY NATIONALISM AND SQUABBLES OVER MINOR IDEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES, DO NOT FORGET TO INVITE DEAR LEADER KIM IL-SUNG TO AN UNITED GLOBAL COMMUNIST PARTY, THEN BRING SOCIALISM TO THE ENTIRE EARTH!

Yes. We must stand ready to pursue the legacy of comrade Jugashvili once he passes away in 1953. If we stand divided, it is likely that Krushchev and his gang of revisionists and right-deviationists will seize power in the USSR and attempt to deviate the revolution from its course. Only by taking up his mantle can comrade Mao lead the workers and farmers of the world to Socialism.

 

[oscar]

It is. They will usually land two forces at either flank of a major port and immediately strike at it, thus securing their supply lines and the flow of reinforcements. A couple of garrisson divisions on each port will usually deter them, but not always, and if they do land they can usually muscle their way into the port anyways. They are also pretty apt at avoiding encirclements and will defend their supply lines competently enough. My usual anti-landing strategy is to lure them inland to force them to spread their troops out too thinly, break the line at one point and go for the harbors.

I've avoided it because I've heard it's made minors even weaker than in HoI2. I already felt that nations like Australia, Canada, NZ, Finland etc were weaker than historical in-game due to the stupid system of tying IC to number of research teams.

And of course, no Kaiserreich mod.

 

[Jugashvili]

I've avoided it because I've heard it's made minors even weaker than in HoI2. I already felt that nations like Australia, Canada, NZ, Finland etc were weaker than historical in-game due to the stupid system of tying IC to number of research teams.

And of course, no Kaiserreich mod.

Minors are actually pretty OP in Hoi3. Just don't ever mess with the Big Three/don't get involved in alliances, conquer other minors, rule ze vorld. Research is bound to leadership points, which you can expand through conquest and tech, and if you're a minor you probably shouldn't even be spending much leadership in espionnage/diplomacy, only enough points in officers to get the max ratio, and focus on tech.

 

[Fafnir]

Bumpin

 

[Jugashvili]

I've run into some technical problems, Comrades. I've edited the ending date to 3/5/1953 in the defines.lua file, but after clicking "continue" on the victory screen the game refuses to continue. If I press on the play button, time advances for about an hour at a time and pauses automatically. So, in other words, I can technically still get past Jan. 1948, but only at an excruciatingly slow pace. Is there any way around this?

Also, I would appreciate your input for my next LP, since this one is coming to a close. Anything that has to do with killing fascists will do. Current candidates OTOH include Death to Spies (popamole Hitman clone ololo but set in Jugashvili's very own counter-intel agency) the Men of War singleplayer campaigns (popamole version of the Close Combat games) or the original Close Combat (preferably III, but V with mods will do just as well). I await your suggestions.

 

[Cassidy]

Also, I would appreciate your input for my next LP, since this one is coming to a close. Anything that has to do with killing fascists will do. Current candidates OTOH include Death to Spies (popamole Hitman clone ololo but set in Jugashvili's very own counter-intel agency) the Men of War singleplayer campaigns (popamole version of the Close Combat games) or the original Close Combat (preferably III, but V with mods will do just as well). I await your suggestions.

I don't think I have ever seen a LP of it in the Codex:

 

[GarfunkeL]

I wonder if you hadn't forced USSR to jump the gun with Poland, how the war would have fared.

As for continuing, you need to edit the save game as well, IIRC.

 

[Jugashvili]

I wonder if you hadn't forced USSR to jump the gun with Poland, how the war would have fared.

As for continuing, you need to edit the save game as well, IIRC.

I'm a bit confused as to why that happened, the AI gets a bit screwy at times. Usually I would have expected Great Britain to have declared war on Comintern first due to the rising threat levels (Communist China shared a border with British India while going on an annexation spree and the Brits had already issued an embargo) but for some reason USSR attacked the Allies shortly after Poland joined, and Germany just sat around without doing anything. I think the formula for AI non-scripted DOWs is threat level + neutrality level > 100, but I haven't tested it out. At least it didn't break the later part of the war, as a sitzkrieg scenario would have sucked.

 

[Jugashvili]

Comrades, let us keep a minute of silence in memory of the 61st anniversary of the passing of Yours Truly.




Well, now that we got that out of the way, let us proceed with some medals. For his invaluable assistance in the field of SCIENCE!, I hereby bestow the order of the Red Banner of Labor to Comrade GarfunkeL.

Spoiler

Indeed, editing the appropriate files has fixed the problem I mentioned earlier, and the Let's Play will therefore be able to run its full course. The final update will be posted on Friday or Saturday.

And here are some Orders of the Badge of Honor for the rest of you, for being such great readers:

Spoiler

 

[GarfunkeL]

I am touched!

 

[Kz3r0]

I've run into some technical problems, Comrades. I've edited the ending date to 3/5/1953 in the defines.lua file, but after clicking "continue" on the victory screen the game refuses to continue. If I press on the play button, time advances for about an hour at a time and pauses automatically. So, in other words, I can technically still get past Jan. 1948, but only at an excruciatingly slow pace. Is there any way around this?

Also, I would appreciate your input for my next LP, since this one is coming to a close. Anything that has to do with killing fascists will do. Current candidates OTOH include Death to Spies (popamole Hitman clone ololo but set in Jugashvili's very own counter-intel agency) the Men of War singleplayer campaigns (popamole version of the Close Combat games) or the original Close Combat (preferably III, but V with mods will do just as well). I await your suggestions.

Close Combat III

 

[Jugashvili]

Here comes the last episode in our saga, in which Krazy Kwanzanian Kapitalizts nearly destroy the world. The ultimate victory of Socialism is all the more surprising due to the idiocy of the Robo-Stalin left in charge of the Kremlin, who sat on a giant stockpile of nukes whilst only dropping two or three on the enemy. It did, however, add to the overall tension.

第七章: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

Now, all that remains to be done is to mop up the remains of the fascist empire.

Not quite, Comrade. The fascists are out of the game, as it were. Their surrender is imminent. But a greater danger looms ahead -- our coming clash with the imperialists. Britain should not pose too serious a threat -- the United States, on the other hand, is surrounded by a nearly impassable barrier -- the Atlantic. We should consider our long-term strategy against this foe.

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it. For now, let us focus on our immediate challenges.

(Meanwhile, in Dusseldorf)

Mein time has finally come! Veez Hitler out of ze vay, I vill lead Deutschland to its Endsieg!


Hermann can be excused for his loose grip on reality, of course, on account of him being a morphinist. In fact, his German Reich has already been split in two -- a northern pocket around Düsseldorf, and a southern pocket around Austria and Bavaria.

The few remnants of his battered forces, a rag-tag bunch of devoted but hopelessly delusional fascist goons, is powerless faced with the unrelenting push of the People's Armies.

Chinese and Soviet troops reach the unmanned French-German border unopposed, capturing a number of abandoned Siegfried and Maginot fortifications unchallenged...

Meanwhile, in Japan, the Chinese landing force makes solid progress against the Americans, struggling to move past Tokyo and wrest control of the rest of the Island from them.

Finally, German defenses give way, as Goering's thousand-minute Reich crumples up like a piece of paper. It all ends as Goering's subordinates, fed up with fighting for a lost cause, depose him and sue for peace with the Soviets. On March 24, 1948, Germany surrendered unconditionally.

Two foes remain -- to the East, Kwanzani-occupied France, acting as a Beachhead for the imperialists in the region. To the south, Italy, the last bastion of fascism. Success would require balancing one's efforts to allow neither of the combattants to gain the upper hand, eliminating both in one fell swoop. Troops are hastily rushed into France to fill the new front line, whilst American marines begin to land at the main Atlantic harbors, intent on gaining a foothold on the continent.

Return to Croatioa!

Return to Bulgarioa!

With most of the Balkans secure, Communist forces converge on the Italian peninsula from both sides. The prize is a nuclear and rocket test site located in Florence, which will provide invaluable assistance in the production of nuclear weapons.

Bertorelli, you stronzo! Now they are-a attacking from botha-da sides! How am-I supposed to spread-a da fascism with-a idiots like-a you!

Mamma Mia! What a mistake-a to make-a. Dottore, do you think you can make-a da bomb on-a time?

(I can't take zis any longer...)

Meanwhile, Chinese troops make a dash for the strategically important Ryukyu islands. Controlling these islands will deprive the Americans of a privileged base from which to lead bombing raids against the Mainland.

These successes are replicated on all other fronts: in France, the Kwanzanis are relentlessly pushed back towards the Atlantic...

...as they are in Finland.

In Italy, the extraordinary efforts of the People's Army allows them to beat the British to the punch, closing in on Florence and its strategic nuclear facilities, dashing Italian hopes of a war-winning nuclear strike.

However, in this era of proliferation, one would be wrong to single out one foe alone. Nazi scientists fleeing their just punishment have found refuge with new Masters, and are ready to put their deadly knowledge to the test...

You see, Mein Führer... zat is ze entire point of nuclear deterrence. If ze had a bomb, ze only sink zat preventink ze reds from bombing us right now... vould be massive retaliation on our part.

But they do not, don't they, old chap?

No... not yet, at least. Zis means you could theoretically vipe zem off ze map... however, be forewarned, Mein Führer; zis state of affairs vill not last indefinitely. You must vipe zem out completely, or not at all.

Then do so, man! I can't allow my old friend Benito to fall to the Reds. At least, not before I've burnt my correspondence with him.

In zat case... a series of strikes meant to break zeir vill should suffice. Civilian targets... first and foremost.

Comrade! Bad news! We have reports of another nuclear bomb. It has been dropped not far from Chongqing.

This is a worrying development. This bomb cannot possibly have been dropped by fascists; no, the plane that dropped it must have operated from one of the airbases in British India.

Comrade Chairman is correct. I have had reports of sightings of British aircraft entering our airspace.

We must ramp up the development of our airforce, develop our air bases and station interceptors around the perimeter of our People's Republic. We cannot allow these butchers to murder any more innocents!

Meanwhile, the invasion of Italy carries on apace. A number of old friends from Manchukuo turn up on the way, and are given the beating they reserve.

The development of the People's Navy also makes great strides towards becoming a modern fighting force. Though weak in a pitched battle, Chinese destroyer flotillas and light cruisers are very adept at raiding enemy convoys, and even managed to sink a Japanese battleship. The fact that the battleship had a silly name made it all the more rewarding.

Bertorelli, you incompetent fool! Now we're-a surrounded!

Ehh -- don't-a worry, Duce! I'll-a think of something!

You better use your direct intellection to get us out-a this-a mess!

With Rome surrounded, the fate of fascism is sealed. Meanwhile, much progress is being made in the development of a sizeable airforce.

Faced with chronic fuel shortages, the People's Army must also seek old solutions to modern problems. A number of cavalry divisions are formed for the purpose of rapid Kebab Removal in the more troublesome and rebellious parts of the People's Republic, where reactionary elements funded by foreign agitators rise up periodically.

With the main threat in the West now neutralized, we can once again focus our attention on Asia. I intend to carry out a plan I have been developing for a long time, and which has finally become a practical possibility.

Yes, spreading the Revolution to Vietnam is the way forward. They are a freedom-loving people that can no longer bear the boot of imperialism. Uniting them in our great family will be a great triumph!

Chinese marines are landed near Hanoi, from where they advance virtually unopposed by the British. Some British armored divisions, completely unsuited to jungle warfare, are utterly defeated by the lightly-armored Marines.

When suddenly...

A second bomb? Will this madness ever cease?

We are already building bombs of our own, Comrade, thanks to the captured enemy facilities in Germany and Italy. Let them dig their own graves -- China and the Soviet Union are vast in size, but Britain has far more to lose.

(In London)

[Writing] Dear Benito, I hope you are feeling well. So sorry to hear the Reds have you cornered in Rome. Will continue dropping bombs on the Asiatic hordes until they surrender. Yours Truly, W. Churchill.

But for all their bombs, the imperialists could not contain the turning of the Wheel of History. The forces of international fascism surrendered on November 30, 1948.

Japan, however, was soon lost to the Americans, who had shipped reinforcements to the area, and Vietnam was finally secured.

The definitive annexation of all previously Japanese-occupied land provided an invaluable boost to the Chinese war effort -- industrial production soared, matching that of Germany during the war, and the country had access to an almost inexhaustible supply of manpower. All that remained was to put these strengths to good use in the coming conflict.

The British, meanwhile, carried on in their terror bombing campaign...

Western Europe is now secure, Comrade. However, I would like to ask you for some advice on one small matter.

What is it, Comrade?

There is the matter of Spain... counter-revolutionaries though they may be, they have avoided taking sides so far. What do you think?

Franco is an Enemy of the People and must be deposed! His defection to the Allied side is inevitable. I say we strike the iron while it is hot.

Now, now, señores, let's not be too rash... I was always on your side, honest!

Horseshit. You are an opportunist who only cares to save his own skin. You already chose your side when you rose up against your legitimate government in 1936!

Let bygones be bygones, meester Stalin, yes? Thees ees bery complex thing. Deed I tell you about the time I was in North Africa and...

Enough! Get him!

Meanwhile, Chinese marines land on Japan again, intent on capturing the island for once and for all!

Will no-one rid me of these turbulent Commies?

Just press ze red button, Mein Führer... repeat as needed.

Once again, British bombers make it past Chinese defences, causing widespread destruction on targets in Mainland China.

A bomb -- on Stalin Town, no less? That's it. That does it. Now you've pissed off Jugashvili.

Soviet bombers set out to retaliate -- striking at London itself, only a short flight away across the Channel!

This wasn't part of the plan, Strangelove!

Mein Führer, I have an idea... Mein Führer, I can valk!

As London is pulverized under the force of two nuclear bombs, their fill to fight plummets. Any further Soviet strikes, they understand, could potentially put an end to all life on Great Britain.

The Kwanzanis lead counter-strikes, but in vain;

...on October 24, 1950, Great Britain surrendered, knocking out the leader of the imperialist allies in one fell swoop and putting an end to Allied presence in Yoorup. Kwanzani bankers rapidly leap to the opportunity, ready to take up the mantle of leaders of the world of FREEDUMB.

If there's something I hate... it's Hobbit Lords. Hobbit Lords in Mordor.

Under Kwanzani leadership, the imperialist forces begin to nuke Corsica, the last bastion of fascist Vichy France, into a pulp.

LIBERALS! You won't get me!

Five LIBERAL bombs failed to break the indomitable will of Hobbit Lord and his fascists non-liberals. Probably because the Kwanzanis were not targetting the actual capital but, you know, Murricans cannot into geography.

Haha! Whee! I fucking love nukes!

The key to defeating the Kwanzanians is to deprive them of their bases. Without bases from which to launch their aeroplanes, they will be powerless; this is of the utmost importance.

Yes; expelling them from Japan will help secure the Chinese coast.

This time, the invasion of Japan is successful, and the country is liberated for once and for all!

We cannot stop here. We must consider how to strike at our foe.

Hopping across the islands in the Pacific would be a way to bring the fight directly to them. With our increasing mastery over the skies and the waves in Asia, I believe this plan has become feasible. Let us consider our course of action...

The first phase would involve advancing towards Midway island by capturing Iwo Jima, Marcus Island and Wake Island in sequence. The next step would be to attack Honolulu and, from there, Central America.

Unfortunately, extensive American defenses made the first attempted landings a failure. A lack of purpose-built landing craft contributed to this failure, and Chinese leadership immediately set out to remedy this by building a fleet of invasion craft.

Meanwhile...

It's all over, amigo. For too long you've been a Spain in the ass, but now you've messed with the wrong Georgian.

Enough! I can't take anymore of your dreadful puns, Meester!

Franco-ly, I don't give a damn

Aaaaaargh!

Faced with the difficulty of capturing the Pacific islands, a number of attempts are made to gain a foothold in America; however, attempts to support a rebellion in Cuba fail, despite the best attempts of Chinese spies.

(Meanwhile)

Now, who shall I liberate today? (checks map)

Ooooooookaay... these guys are officially too dumb to live. It's time for Socialism, literacy and indoor plumbing, bitches!

What? More SOWSHULIZM? Gimme mah RED BUTTON!

The Kwanzanis had recently captured Taiwan in a lightning raid, allowing their areoplanes to reach the Mainland once again. What followed was a series of deadly bombing raids against the historical capital of Nanjing, and an inexplicable flurry of bombs dropped on Memel.

Eliminating any last possible allied footholds on the Eurasian landmass was the top priority for the Communist forces. To this end, they decided to remove one of the last possible partners of imperialism -- it was time to Remove Kebab.

Meanwhile, Chinese marines landed on Taiwan in a desperate bid to recapture it and put an end to the American bombing raids.

With the loss of their last possible base from which to bomb China and the Soviet Union, the Kwanzanis lost heart. For all the senseless violence and ferocity they had displayed, the indomitable will of the proletariat had prevailed, achieving their objectives despite the slaughter of millions. The war, it seemed, had become a waste of time, life and money, and the war-weary American public forced the government to consider peace.

Largely isolated on the American continent, the imperialists finally agreed to sit down at the negotiating table.

China has been bombed with nuclear weapons nine times, and yet it has not only survived, but also prevailed. Has the Soviet Union itself not been bombed ten times, with much loss of life, only for the imperialists to be inexorably swept aside? I have said that all the reputedly powerful reactionaries are merely paper tigers. The reason is that they are divorced from the people. Look! Was not Hitler a paper tiger? Was Hitler not overthrown? I also said that the tsar of Russia, the emperor of China and Japanese imperialism were all paper tigers. As we know, they were all overthrown. And now, U.S. imperialism has not yet been overthrown and it has the atom bomb, but I believe it also will be overthrown. It, too, is a paper tiger.

Truer words were never spoken. But now, Comrade, I am afraid that I must depart from this world. I hereby name you my successor; let there be no rifts or divisions between the Soviet Union and China; the workers of the world must stand as one at this time. With the industrial heartland of Western Europe secure, with the vast expanses of the Eurasian landmass and much of Africa liberated, Socialism in its true form can finally develop, after the hard task of rebuilding has been completed. Kwanzania, on the other hand, will inevitably languish, deprived of resources to plunder to feed the rapacity of its capitalists, trapped in its American prison; its client nations will soon tire of it, and the entire system will collapse on its own. You must be ready for this time and to accept the workers and peasants of the Americans into our great Soviet Union. Tolerate no revisionists or deviationists -- and watch out for Khrushchev!

I will do as you say. Farewell, Comrade!

剧终​

 

[anus_pounder]

:tearofanangel:

 

[GarfunkeL]

Glorious Global Revolution of the Peasants and Workers of Eurasia!

 

[Jugashvili]

Thank you, Comrades. I will start a new one this weekend if I have time, though I still haven't decided on the game. Stay tuned!

 

[Jugashvili]

Wonder what sort of horror exists in Memel... existed, I think, I don't think any horror can get that much nuking.
If the game went on, I wonder if you could race to the American Continent until they lowered your national unity to 0 with all the nukes, but then again the AI shows to be quite shitty at nuking.

Memel is home to the notorious Order of Lithuanian Hitmen. I think the Kwanzani president was afraid of getting assassinated.

As for reaching the US, my best bet would have been to coup Cuba or some other neutral state in the area and to use it as a staging ground for nuke attacks. The Soviets could easily have nuked the Kwans into submission (I checked, by the late game the USSR was sitting on a mountain of nukes, 30+, but it only used 3 of them!) but I decided not to interfere in the AI's decisions. Ultimately I should have started a Chinese nuclear program earlier, I had plenty of time to get some nukes prior to 1953 but I was counting on the USSR to do that for me.

 

[Drax]

Reading this was an awesome way to spend my work day at the labor camp office.


(though I feel bad for trotsky, the poor thing)

 

[Jugashvili]

Reading this was an awesome way to spend my work day at the labor camp office.


(though I feel bad for trotsky, the poor thing)

It looks like the labor camp has not had the desired effect, then! I'm putting down for two more years of re-education, Comrade. You'll thank me later.

The Manchukuo Foreign Legion fights on!

All under the leadership of their fearless commanding officer, Christopher Lee!

 

[Jester]

It was glorious. Thank you for interesting read, Comerade Jugashvili. It deserve medal for your valiant fight for oppressed proletariat. Long live hero of the International Department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party!