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Alpha Protocol dialogue video

Wyrmlord

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For this dialogue wheel to work, they would need really good voice acting and dialogue, but the game seems to have fallen a little short in that regard as well.
 

MetalCraze

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Well that was bad. Dialogues sound like a generic b-movie cheese and even from what was shown it is easy to tell that characters are terrible cliches (boy-chick wielding HUEG minigun and talkin' al' kool with man's voice - is that the best you can do Avellone?) - well what else to expect from a game with the moronic "cinematic" "dialogue" wheel for people who can't read.

Also it looks like Cmdr. Shepard in this spinoff is even more EXTREME than in the main series - Mass Effect - point blank shots in the face, hitting the poor table with people heads - where is your Bioware with collar-grabbing that never happened now? Though he still has that gay voice of his.

Hümmelgümpf said:
Cons: You can make lame sexist jokes.
Pros: You loose Reputation with hawt spy chix if you do.
Which like in every Obsidian game means nearly nothing.
TisATrap said:
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Threaten or Draw Gun - find one difference!
 

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What's so wrong with a compromise having a mouse-over/tool-tip thing which expands on the one word response?

Or would that not be radical enough?
 

Rhalle

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Congratulations, Obsidian, on your great leap backwards; groundbreaking in its consoltardation and bastardization of the genre.

And here I thought Bioware would have boldly gone there first.
 
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sheek said:
What's so wrong with a compromise having a mouse-over/tool-tip thing which expands on the one word response?
They want it to be 'cinematic' so you have to be quick with your answer else it auto-chooses I guess, that's my my main gripe with this video, you're being forced to choose your path with little to no forethought going into it due to the time constraint.
 

MetalCraze

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Looks like "cinematic" in today's hype-speak stands for "sit back and relax while we will play your game for you". Please keep that shit out of my games.
 

luckyb0y

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Calm down people. It's an ACTION rpg. What part of action rpg you don't understand? It might not be the best thing since sliced bread, but at least they try to do something different. With nearly all RPG set in fantasy world the setting is pretty refreshing. Deus ex dialogues were as corny as they come and the game was brilliant. As long as they implement different ways to handle the problems it will be good game. The only complaint I have is that it's a bit too much like juvenile spy fantasy.
 

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I know you all try to score those precious codex cool points, but why not give this one a little benefit of doubt. How many rpgs set in modern world have you played recently?
 

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luckyb0y said:
I know you all try to score those precious codex cool points, but why not give this one a little benefit of doubt.
:lol:
Let's see - give an ACTION rpg as you put it a benefit of doubt - as in give a benefit of doubt to a game which shows you with arrows where enemies are -through walls- (even more extreme than the original Mass Effect), shows with flashing icons locks you can pick, has bad looking corridor combat with terrible cover system which totally destroys any action as you must constantly hide-shoot-hide-shoot, has minigames copied straight out of TES4. Are you kidding me?

How many rpgs set in modern world have you played recently?
I thought you've said it's an ACTION rpg? And how does it excuse all other dumb shit in the game?

Hümmelgümpf said:
Hobo Elf said:
the modern world is the most boring setting ever.
Uhh.. What?

I believe he wanted to say Obsidian's modern world is the most boring setting ever:
Let's see - Mass Effect: Alpha Protocol has every boring location of the over-used "modern world setting" that you can find in many other shooters:
Moscow - check
Middle-East - check
China - check
USA - check

My god - I can't wait when I will put my feet on the Iraq soil and fight terrorists for the 10000th time. Obsidian's setting is so refreshing.
 

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Hobo Elf said:
None that I can think of, because the modern world is the most boring setting ever.

The reason very few (any?) actioner / RPG's are set in the modern era, is that killing everything you come across as a means to character advancement is generally frowned upon by society in general, and law enforcement specifically.

Where would an RPG be without the time-honored trope of playing every character build as a homicidal maniac?
 

luckyb0y

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MetalCraze said:
luckyb0y said:
I know you all try to score those precious codex cool points, but why not give this one a little benefit of doubt.
:lol:
Let's see - give an ACTION rpg as you put it a benefit of doubt - as in give a benefit of doubt to a game which shows you with arrows where enemies are -through walls-, shows with flashing icons locks you can pick, has bad looking corridor combat with terrible cover system which totally destroys any action as you must constantly hide-shoot-hide-shoot, has minigames copied straight out of TES4. Are you kidding me?

Oh, man. I didn't notice these things. It sounds pretty shite all right. What can I do I'm a sucker for anything that's not fantasy.

MetalCraze said:
luckyb0y said:
How many rpgs set in modern world have you played recently?
I thought you've said it's an ACTION rpg? And how does it excuse all other dumb shit in the game?

Hümmelgümpf said:
Hobo Elf said:
the modern world is the most boring setting ever.
Uhh.. What?

I believe he wanted to say Obsidian's modern world is the most boring setting ever:
Let's see - Mass Effect: Alpha Protocol has every boring location of the over-used "modern world setting" that you can find in many other shooters:
Moscow - check
Middle-East - check
China - check
USA - check

It's a little more than a shooter (hopefully) and as I said it's seems much too cliche and juvenile. Mind I'm not saying it will be great, but I hope at least decent. Man can hope, eh?
 

Hümmelgümpf

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Deus Ex is unoriginal. New York, Hong Kong, Paris and Area 51? WTF is this shit? And Troika even had the balls to put a Chinatown in one of their games! :declineoforiginality:
 

MetalCraze

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Sorry man, Deus Ex was set in the near-futuristic anti-utopia setting with quite a number of cyber-punkish stuff thrown in and it shows throughout the whole game with lots of Sci-Fi things there.

In AP you will be fighting terrorists in Iraq.

Considering that one of the sources of inspiration (if you will believe Obsidian) is James Bond movies that's pretty strange as it had settings from North Korean jungles to secret facilities in Antarctica (which is much more original than fighting terrorists yet again). Though probably Obsidian meant recent James Bond movies which are terrible crap.
And even Jason Bourne movies (again another source of inspiration) - they were set mostly in colourful european cities which is much more better than watching dull american skyscrapers for 100th time.
 

Humanophage

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I'm unaware of any RPGs where you can fight terrorists in Iraq. Or even adventures. It's mostly multiplayer-oriented shooters, a sub-genre where location is largely irrelevant.
 

MetalCraze

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Humanophage said:
I'm unaware of any RPGs where you can fight terrorists in Iraq. Or even adventures. It's mostly multiplayer-oriented shooters, a sub-genre where location is largely irrelevant.

Well yes, probably because developers of RPGs thought it is too overused, bland, generic and boring and can fit only un-creative shooters. Being a yet-another-console-shooter Alpha Protocol only proves the point.

bat_boro said:
Casino Royal and Quantium of Solace were pretty cool, though

Yes if you like boring crap calling itself "Action movie" while not having any action at all.
 

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You are seriously out of any imagination (not to mention that you probably didn't play No One Lives Forever 2) if you think that infiltrating middle-eastern terrorists is totally bland, generic and boring.
 

Black

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I'd really like to see Obsidian make something original but going Mass Eff... WHOOPS, Alpha Protocol doesn't seem to be the way to go.
Of course the Codex will like it for what it'll be.
 

MetalCraze

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Darth Roxor said:
You are seriously out of any imagination (not to mention that you probably didn't play No One Lives Forever 2) if you think that infiltrating middle-eastern terrorists is totally bland, generic and boring.
Yes I've played NOLF2. It was crap. And if by "infiltrating" you mean running around shooting them - been there, done that 100 times.
But even with that NOLF2 managed to look better simply because it was playing on stereotypes.
AP is serious business.

And you say I'm out of imagination? Woah man, I, unlike Obsidian, actually know that planet Earth has something else besides USA, Russia and Middle-East.
 

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MetalCraze said:
Yes I've played NOLF2. It was crap

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Your lack of taste is unimaginable.
 

MetalCraze

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Funny to hear that from a guy who likes TW and Obsidian games.
Maybe I'm too old for a next-gen world where liking bland and boring shooters is a sign of a good taste.
As for NOLF - I've completed NOLF1. I've never managed to complete NOLF2 because of a constant boredom and twitching LMB.
 

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