NWN2: Storm of Zehir at E3

[Murk]

^ I think one such explanation is that a beginner would be a peasant with no PC class, and upon achieving a PC class you are officially "trained"

take for instance a fighter, you come in with all simple/martial weapon proficiencies, that means you know how to use at least two dozen different weapons

add in two feats and those are basically skills you developed in training

the problem is that while that's fine for flavor, mechanically, it leads a kobold killing you 'cuz it rolled a 20, and considering how many kobolds you'll fight in your career as a level 1 douchebag (over 20) there's a good chance you'll get that crit straight to your taint

 

[Kaiserin]

Level one characters are considered fully proficient in their profession and are more skilled than NPC classes. For instance, a level one fighter would be the equivalent of a freshly trained member of a special forces division. Somebody who hadn't undergone any training yet would effectively be classless, and treated as a monster. If they reached majority and weren't pursuing a skilled profession, they generally tend to get rolled out as one of the commoner/aristocrat/warrior/expert classes, depending on which one is most appropriate.

There's a single book that could dispel the whole mystique behind this debate, just letting you all know...

 

[Murk]

a cat is more dangerous than a commoner

 

[Kaiserin]

Okay troll, I'll bite.

Cat:
Tiny Animal
Hit Dice: 1/2 d8(2hp)
Speed: 30ft.
AC: 14
Attack: Claw, melee, +4, 1d2-4 (1dmg always)
Saves: Fort +2, Ref +4, Will +1
Feats: Weapon finesse

1st Level Commoner:
Hit dice: 1d4+Con Mod (3hp avg)
Speed:30ft
AC:10+ Dex mod
Attack: Sickle, +0+Str Mod, 1d6 damage+ Str Mod(4dmg avg)
Saves:+0 to all base saves

Commoners, as 'average npcs' tend to have an overall average of 11 for each ability score. These are going to be higher and lower for each score of course, unlike a monster who has a static block of well...stats.

Even with an ability line up of all 10's though, the extra damage and HP are a huge advantage over the cat. Not to mention that a common could have proficiency in any simple weapon, which puts a 1d8 in their hands. Most commoners would 'one hit' a cat, 30% of the time.

 

[Murk]

omg no cats r CR 2

 

[Shoelip]

What you need to worry about are badgers. A single lucky badger can take down four level 1 PCs.

 

[Murk]

dude my dire fiendish half-dragon red ant will rip your badger to bits

 

[Gragt]

What about ferrets?

 

[Murk]

i have a sibirski tooshkanchik, natural cold resistance

 

[Gylfi.Fenriz.Conquests]

Amazing, this SoZ. Truly innovative gameplay... a melange of Tycoon-strategy and role-playing game.... just omg.

Cryo's Dune, anyone?

Obsidian lads really got guts, if they're so willing to test new grounds.