So just in case you wanted customisation in D3

[Kingston]

Attribute points are not player-assignable in D3. They’re not in the blizzcon build, but we thought that was just to simplify things for new players at the show. Jay says no, that’s how it is in the game now. His explanation was that it makes items even more important, and that it lets the designers plan a bit better (they can assume players will have at least X in each stat by a given level). You still get attributes, and they will still be required for equipment use, but they are automatically assigned each level up. Thus every Wizard will have the same base str/vit/dex/etc as every other Wizard of the same level. Same for the Barb and WD.

DURR I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW DO I PUT POINTS

:sigh:

 

[Chefe]

Thank god. This ruined Titan Quest for me. It was so confusing figuring out how to click those little X's and what strength, dex, and int meant. Then sometimes I would click a wierd button that said undo and all the points would be gone! Then other times I would not be able to use a weapon and I would click some X's and suddenly I could use the weapon! Thats why titan quest failed and noone bought it because it was confusing and hard to play because of those points. I mean how do you assign them anyways? what do they do? why can they help you use weapons? it didn't make sense. It was confusing and ruined immershun and I'm glad blizzard is fixing that bug because they are the best WOW 4 EVAH!

 

[Gerrard]

Diablo III - Now with more jarrpug

 

[Hamster]

Fuck, not that i am so strongly opposed to breaking games into 3 episodes and removing point distribution from actions rpg's, but these are alarming signs of possible infection with retarded game developer disease.

 

[pkt-zer0]

Well, if this means less customization of the "+2 melee damage or +2 magic damage" sort being replaced with more interesting sorts (something along the lines of perks and traits from SPECIAL), then it's not a huge loss.

Otherwise, it's pretty silly.

 

[Kingston]

Rex explains why it doesn't suck.

[02] <StillGray> kingston
[02] <StillGray> about stats
[02] <StillGray> in hellgate london and titan quest you had stats
[02] <StillGray> but it was so easy to fuck up
[02] <StillGray> thats why theyre removing that from d3.
[02] <StillGray> so you cant fuck up

There is the skill runes customisation, but still, this is gay.

 

[bert]

Attribute points are not player-assignable in D3. They’re not in the blizzcon build, but we thought that was just to simplify things for new players at the show. Jay says no, that’s how it is in the game now. His explanation was that it makes items even more important, and that it lets the designers plan a bit better (they can assume players will have at least X in each stat by a given level). You still get attributes, and they will still be required for equipment use, but they are automatically assigned each level up. Thus every Wizard will have the same base str/vit/dex/etc as every other Wizard of the same level. Same for the Barb and WD.

Wat? So now there's no more maxing out block rates (If they're even in) or making very specialized character builds? You might as well take out stat counters then.

 

[DraQ]

*facepalm*

 

[SuicideBunny]

this is gay.

 

[Chefe]

Rex explains why it doesn't suck.

[02] <StillGray> kingston
[02] <StillGray> about stats
[02] <StillGray> in hellgate london and titan quest you had stats
[02] <StillGray> but it was so easy to fuck up
[02] <StillGray> thats why theyre removing that from d3.
[02] <StillGray> so you cant fuck up

There is the skill runes customisation, but still, this is gay.

That's nice. They're removing all traces of challenge. How wonderful of them. The stats screen was one of the last bastions of choice. Now you don't have to think ever. You can't ever fuck up because you always win. Just like those great little league teams where they don't keep score and everyone wins and shits marshmallows and burps rainbows and the world is filled with fields of puppies and John McCain is a nice guy.

 

[Radisshu]

WHAT?! Why the fuck would they do this? I had faith in D3, goddammit. Not RPG faith, mind you.

 

[sqeecoo]

Well, I still have non-RPG faith in it. Stat allocation was ok, but not critical in D2. If this allows them to make other stuff more interesting, and if they still have a lot of possible builds from the skills and (very interesting) skill runes, I'm fine with it.

 

[Xi]

Fucking socialist developers! They are trying to promote equality by removing aspects of the game that allow a retard to fuck up his character.

I guess it was only a matter of time before the shit flinging apes forced the developers to become conservationists of stupidity.

Alienate the intelligent crowd, there are fewer of them anyway, and promote the retards, because there's obviously a lot more of them, instead of trying to promote game-play that is thought provoking. Remove the very nature of the layer that depth adds to fun. Obviously a good idea.

 

[Raapys]

Is anyone really surprised? We all knew they were going there eventually. This is just the next step on the whole 'ability to reset skills' thing we went through a few months ago. First they let you undo your choices, and then they remove the choices entirely.

Welcome to 'next-gen', where customization( except visual ones), planning and choices with consequences are not welcome.

 

[Xi]

....are not welcome.

And nor are your criticisms, asshole! Criticism is the fuel of flames, you're promoting violence! Promoting violence is wrong, and therefore, you must also be wrong.

 

[Xor]

I don't really think this is a huge loss as some of you are making it out to be. So they're removing stat point allocation, who gives a fuck? Maybe now we can get away from the ridiculous min-maxing that occurred on battle.net in D2. In fact, that's probably exactly what they're trying to prevent by doing this.

 

[Chefe]

Why not try... oh, I don't know... balancing it out instead of removing it entirely?

 

[Raapys]

I don't really think this is a huge loss as some of you are making it out to be. So they're removing stat point allocation, who gives a fuck? Maybe now we can get away from the ridiculous min-maxing that occurred on battle.net in D2. In fact, that's probably exactly what they're trying to prevent by doing this.

I agree, choices are stupid anyway. Imo they should just remove classes completely, as well as skills and items. Stupid little details that don't add anything to the game.

 

[Xi]

What's the point of the game if you cannot min-max? I don't think anyone is playing it for the story. Nope, everyone, and I say that with confidence, plays the game to create a character and maximize the efficiency of the build that seems most alluring. Then you create another character and start over.

While stats may not be all that game changing, they did offer some customizability that was a nice addition to the skill and gear system. Removing them doesn't seem like the best option given the fact that stats have been a pinnacle of RPGs since the very begging of RPGs. So, I hold my final judgments of course, it just seems like they removed them, taking the easy way out, instead of reusing them and increasing their functionality within the game.

They removed a layer of character design. What's to be liked?

 

[Chork]

Ah, who cares. Stat distribution in D2 consisted almost entirely of

1) Bare minimum in Str/Dex for your end gear
1a) Optional: Put enough points into Dex for max block
2) Everything else into Vit

The only time this changed was if you were playing some gimmick build.

 

[Xi]

Which is why you increase/add functionality as opposed to outright removing it. By removing it, they've altered a character design aspect that has been in all of the Diablos.

The counter-argument, of course, would be that removing it was equivalent to increasing the game's functionality as a whole. I'm just not buying this though. It's too easy to remove and much harder to improve. That's why it happens so often.

I'm not saying Diablo 3 will be bad mind you, it's just adding concern to the already mysterious end product.

 

[Raapys]

So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.

 

[Dire Roach]

Hmm, looks like Blizzard wants to turn D3 into an arcade beat-em-up.

 

[Kraszu]

Fucking socialist developers! They are trying to promote equality by removing aspects of the game that allow a retard to fuck up his character.

Actually you were bound to fuck up character if you didn't have insight of what equipment will be like, also lack of uber loot forced you to fuck up the char, try to play whithout giving points to EN when you don't have anything decent whit +mana, or be fucked by finding your first 80% requirements armour after you had bumped STR. It suck that they will not try to fix it instead of removing through.

 

[Xor]

I agree, choices are stupid anyway. Imo they should just remove classes completely, as well as skills and items. Stupid little details that don't add anything to the game.

Such a wonderfully witty and sarcastic comment. I doubt anyone could see past your strawman and come up with a counterpoint.