Thinking of replaying BG1?

[GarfunkeL]

And you'd like to utilize either TuTu or Trilogy but are bummed about the changes done to animal/monster summoning and animate dead spells in BG2? I know I was.

So check this out:
http://www.pocketplane.net/mambo/index.php?option=content&task=blogcategory&id=110&Itemid=83

You want Ding0s Tweak pack, currently on version 20. WeiDU compatible, can be installed after all other mods. The most important tweak is the very last one:

22: Ghreyfain's BG1-Style Summoning Spells(BG1Tutu Compatible!)
One of the first things that can be noticed in BG2 is how very weak the Monster Summoning X spells are. This component strives to bring things more in-line with how they were in BG1. Monster Summoning I will summon either 8 level 1 creatures, or 4 level 2 monsters. Monster Summoning II summons a total of 12 levels of monsters. That's either 6 level 2 monsters or 4 level 3 monsters. MS III will summon 16 levels. 5 level 3 creatures and a 1 level 1, or 4 level 4s, or 3 level 5s and a level 1 creature.
Animal summoning works in the same manner.
Animate Dead will summon 1 skeleton per level of the caster, and now they come equipped with a random variety of helms, shields, and weapons. They're also not green. At level 13, some of these skeletons are exchanged for a Skeleton Warrior, a more powerful ally.
This component will automatically remove the summoning cap if you have not already done so.

Yehaaw!

Also, has anyone ever finished the Ankheg culling quest in BG1? The lady wants you to kill 10 Ankhegs - I've been slaying dozens of them and she's never satisfied. I seem to remember finishing it when playing vanilla, so maybe of the mods accidentally broke it.

 

[Skittles]

That sounds like a bug. I successfully completed it with just TuTu installed. It's possible you need to kill specific ankhegs to the (north?)east of her.

 

[Pelvis Knot]

Did you slaughter them without reloading the map? I remember playing BGT(with lots of mods) a while ago and finishing that quest just fine.

 

[GarfunkeL]

Hmm, I did kill 11 on the map, without going into the cave or the houses. There's very little room east or north-east of her. Oh well, not a big deal.

Also, if someone didn't realize, the removal of summoning cap also affects enemies. Thanks to SCS beefing up enemy spellcasters in general, you might find yourself facing a veritable horde of summoned enemy monsters. Nice!

 

[Jaesun]

Purple text on a dark background. k.

 

[GarfunkeL]

Everyone's a critic. Better now?

 

[Jaesun]

Yes. I was hoping more it would be something about fixing all the stuff TUTU breaks. If they get that wrapper application working, then it will be incline of TUTU.

I don't get the point of this mod?

 

[Andyman Messiah]

"Thinking of replaying BG1?"
Nope.

"We fixed monster summoning!"
Still nope.

"And other stuff too!"
*loads gun*

 

[Zed]

"Thinking of replaying BG1?"
Yup, started a new game just a week ago. No mods, no bullshit, no changes.

 

[ghostdog]

BGT is the way to go.

 

[Serious_Business]

My dick is the way to go

Aww yeah baby, you liked that

fuck you man

 

[Jaesun]

BGT is the way to go.

Agreed. Both BGT and TUTU break stuff in BG, but I more prefer what BGT breaks over TUTU.

 

[octavius]

BGT is the way to go.

Agreed. Both BGT and TUTU break stuff in BG, but I more prefer what BGT breaks over TUTU.

What's the differences in breakage?
I know TuTu messes some with the spawns, summonings and druid abilities, but there are mods that try to balance summonings and druid abilities.
But BGT gives BG2 experience to BG1 thieves for lockpicking and trap disarming, which I personally would think is more unbalancing.

Been some years since I lasted played the BG games, though, so things may have changed.

 

[Jaesun]

BGT is the way to go.

Agreed. Both BGT and TUTU break stuff in BG, but I more prefer what BGT breaks over TUTU.

What's the differences in breakage?
I know TuTu messes some with the spawns, summonings and druid abilities, but there are mods that try to balance summonings and druid abilities.
But BGT gives BG2 experience to BG1 thieves for lockpicking and trap disarming, which I personally would think is more unbalancing.

Been some years since I lasted played the BG games, though, so things may have changed.

Off the top of my head, TUTU breaks monster spawning in BG1 (they are just wacky spawns), and Korax is completely broken. BGT also breaks spawning, but I think it dows a better job of handling spawns better than TUTU (I'n my opinion).

However if that Wrapper App get's finished, none of that will matter anymore <3 Everything, in theory, can easily be fixed. I just pray they get that working.

 

[octavius]

Korax is completely broken.

The ghoul? How?

 

[Jaesun]

Korax is completely broken.

The ghoul? How?

IIRC, the BGII engine can't cast charmed on him, thus he will never be friendly and then attack you. When you meet him in vanilla BG1, an "invisible" charm spell is cast on him. Then when it ends, he attacks you.

Korax hungry. VERY hungry...

 

[Random]

Actually I was thinking about replaying Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II.

 

[Quetzacoatl]

Solo with a F/M/T is the only way to play.

 

[GarfunkeL]

Korax is completely broken.

The ghoul? How?

IIRC, the BGII engine can't cast charmed on him, thus he will never be friendly and then attack you. When you meet him in vanilla BG1, an "invisible" charm spell is cast on him. Then when it ends, he attacks you.

Korax hungry. VERY hungry...

No, at least in BGT he is charmed. Can't be sure about tutu since I haven't played that in a long time.

I don't get the point of this mod?

That if you played either Tutu or BGT, your summoning spells were limited to 5 creatures, like in BG2. With this, all summon spells work like in p&p, which is nice.

 

[Murk]

Solo with a F/M/T is the only way to play.

Surprisingly easy to do -- you do end up falling back to web/arrow spamming when you're in a bind tho.

 

[octavius]

Solo with a F/M/T is the only way to play.

Surprisingly easy to do -- you do end up falling back to web/arrow spamming when you're in a bind tho.

I once soloed Icewind Dale and Heart of Winter, except their end battles, with a F/T/M, but had to give up early in Trials of the Luremaster.
Only party based game I've ever soloed.

 

[waywardOne]

I couldn't stand how Tutu made half the NPCs dual-wielders, basically raping the vanilla experience for no reason.

 

[octavius]

I couldn't stand how Tutu made half the NPCs dual-wielders, basically raping the vanilla experience for no reason.

Yeah, that was very annoying. I used to fix that with Shadowkeeper, though.

 

[curry]

Baldur's Gate is hands down my all-time favourite cRPG (although by modern standards it doesn't have many RPG elements except a very riveting story). I got it when it was first released in late 90's and I've installed and finished it every now and then ever since.

I don't recommend using TUTU or BGT mods though. I think BG1 is best when you experience it without game-changing mods. The only mods I recommend are the widescreen mod and of course Baldurdash bug fixes.

 

[Jaesun]

I don't recommend using TUTU or BGT mods though. I think BG1 is best when you experience it without game-changing mods. The only mods I recommend are the widescreen mod and of course Baldurdash bug fixes.

Agreed. I'm one of the 3 people on earth that actually like BG1 and I still don't like the changes of both TUTU and BGT, and use those 2 mods as well.