What old-old RPG would benefit greatly from a remake?

[sgc_meltdown]

what new shit rpg would benefit greatly from incline?

 

[Excidium]

New Vegas.

 

[ever]

Haven't you people had enough of the same thing over and over and over and over and over again

No.

This goes a long way in also explaining why people on these message boards like Daggerfall. I think I am starting to get it.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

New Vegas.

hahahaha trick question as none of the new shit is rpgs so there is nothing to incline

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[MisterStone]

I like your idea of Wizard's Crown, but would be very afraid of the Wasteland remake with "better writing." What, it needs romances or something? The text in the game was good enough, I don't think it needs too much more.

The reason I thought Wasteland might need a bit more writing is not because I think there is much wrong with what is there, but rather because there's not enough there to make a compelling story really. Also, a lot of the quests were kind of lame; various PCs, NPCs, objects, etc. would be there, but it seems like the NPCs/PCs never react to one another's presence... for instance in that early quest where you rescue the mayors daughter or whatever, it seems he doesn't notice when the chick is in your party, doesn't say anything, offer a reward, she doesn't try to leave... you get the idea. The quests and areas were pretty cool in concept, but in many places they failed to really form a coherent story.

The game was crippled in the aspect because it was developed for the shitastic Apple II platform and they were trying to fit it two or three 10 5.25" floppy sides. Just for reference, IIRC UIV was on 4 floppy disk sides, and UV was on 10 5.25" floppy disk sides.

 

[Excidium]

New Vegas.

hahahaha trick question as none of the new shit is rpgs so there is nothing to incline

huehuhaueuhauhaeuhauhuaehuhUHEAUHAHUEHUAHUA

 

[Daemongar]

I like your idea of Wizard's Crown, but would be very afraid of the Wasteland remake with "better writing." What, it needs romances or something? The text in the game was good enough, I don't think it needs too much more.

The reason I thought Wasteland might need a bit more writing is not because I think there is much wrong with what is there, but rather because there's not enough there to make a compelling story really. Also, a lot of the quests were kind of lame; various PCs, NPCs, objects, etc. would be there, but it seems like the NPCs/PCs never react to one another's presence... for instance in that early quest where you rescue the mayors daughter or whatever, it seems he doesn't notice when the chick is in your party, doesn't say anything, offer a reward, she doesn't try to leave... you get the idea. The quests and areas were pretty cool in concept, but in many places they failed to really form a coherent story.

The game was crippled in the aspect because it was developed for the shitastic Apple II platform and they were trying to fit it two or three 10 5.25" floppy sides. Just for reference, IIRC UIV was on 4 floppy disk sides, and UV was on 10 5.25" floppy disk sides.

Ok, yes, I understand, in that sense, it could use a little love. The toaster repair skill could use a little rebalancing as well. Think UV was 9 disks, but my frame of reference is C64.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Dungeons and Dragons: Warriors of the Eternal Sun.

 

[RK47]

Ultima 8 & 9 with The witcher 2 engine would be nice.

Oh wait, pre 1990s will be raped by today Real Time RPG demands. So no. I have no corpses to suggest raping.

Get real, modern companies look at the bottom line first, and seeing X-Com being made into something it is not, and JA2 remake being turned into RT 3D Abomination isn't enough hint that it won't turn out well?

 

[Lunac]

Hate to introduce reality, but who's the target audience? Old school gamers who already own and play these classics regularly? They would probably just want better gfx and improved music/sound tracks, and what not. But that is not viable since from publisher's perspective you are looking at sale numbers in 1000's or few 10,000's at best for more recognizable franchises/titles. (See what Xenonauts is doing for X-COM).

If you are talking about your average 13-20 year old console gamers? Bleh! Non-workable!


Back to fantasy. Not really a true RPG by most definitions but sprucing up anything in the Starflight or Star Control franchises would be awesome. SF-wise there are few indie projects out there right now, one released a final version recently, but they are all beyond amateurish.

Also, I mentioned this game in few other threads, but somebody doing something with Drakkhen would be great.

Others? Hands off! I like them as they are.


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[sgc_meltdown]

Ultima 8 & 9 with The witcher 2 engine would be nice

sounds like a plan

ultima series needs a reboot with all the benefits of modern gaming hardware can bring
look at the great job they did with castlevania lords of shadow for example now that's a reboot that brings life to a dying series

sure there might be a lot more loading times and you will get benefits like fully voiced characters in both britannia and the world of pagan and being able to explore those lands in first person like you've always wanted with proper music this time none of that midi stuff

glass sword dlc

 

[Nex]

Ultima 8 & 9 with The witcher 2 engine would be nice.

Not pre-1990, but I would also like these remade. TBH they could just add lots more content and redo the combat system and U8 could be wonderful! Then they could redo U9 in the same engine. I really love U8's graphics, 3d just isn't the same.

 

[thursdayschild]

1) Wasteland. Remake wasteland (with better writing and quest scripting) with a modern turn-based combat system (similar to Jagged Alliance or something). Imagine the awesomeness...

That will be my third game.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

redo the combat system

kinect support so you can just shout corp por or kal vas flam

lore-based skill trees based on virtues

aggro management

 

[Nex]

redo the combat system

kinect support so you can just shout corp por or kal vas flam

lore-based skill trees based on virtues

aggro management

In a non crappy way... designed for excellence, not mass market appeal or profit.

 

[RK47]

redo the combat system

kinect support so you can just shout corp por or kal vas flam

lore-based skill trees based on virtues

aggro management

That is actually quite a good idea...drawing of pentagram to complete the spell binding ritual in U8 & U9.
I personally liked the aspect of Solo Exploration in U8 & U9, it felt more tense and item hoarding is limited by Avatar's weight limit instead of pack mules. But the combat is just atrocious.

I don't want to encourage kinect support, shouting out keywords in U7 conversation would be quite hilarious in modern kinect.

NAME!

JOB!

FELLOWSHIP!

BYE!

AVATAR?

VIRTUES!

GARGOYLES!

 

[sgc_meltdown]

designed for excellence, not mass market appeal or profit.

ha ha ha friendo for a bit there it sounded like you think those two are mutually exclusive

not true since market appeal will dictate the parameters of excellence

shouting out keywords in U7 conversation would be quite hilarious

that's the spirit also imagine hugging motion support for party members

 

[Beautiful Clown Painting]

Wasteland is perfect as it is.

 

[ever]

I always thought kinect would make a great mouse replacement, but no one is using it for that.

Why?

 

[deuxhero]

Fallout.

If it got a proper remake instead of a dumbing down, it would be very good. Even just adding simultaneous enemy turns ala ToEE and fixing the slow animations would be a huge help.

 

[RK47]

Thou must rub the Orb of the Moons to create a Moongate, Avatar. Rub towards the screen to open the portal of Britannia. Find other portals through trial and errors. Mwa-ha-ha-ha..

*Tries rubbing*

Thou art standing too close to the screen, Avatar. Step back and try again.

 

[MMXI]

Fallout.

If it got a proper remake instead of a dumbing down, it would be very good. Even just adding simultaneous enemy turns ala ToEE and fixing the slow animations would be a huge help.

Yep, Fallout. That amazing pre-1990 RPG.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

Thou art standing too close to the screen, Avatar. Step back and try again.

This wouldn't have happened if you wore your 3D glasses.

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

Nothing. I don't want any favourites declined.

 

[Shannow]

I don't believe in remakes. I believe in sequels that keep the basic charm of their predecessors and only improve features instead of turning everything to shit (looking at you, FO3 and DS3).
I also don't believe some arbitrary assholes' rule of only mentioning games prior to 1990 that he only made in fear of losing KKKs.
Now that that's cleared:

Dungeon Master: With nice graphics (though the original DM aged quite well), tool-tips, information on items, optional auto-map, optional phase-based combat like Wizardry 8, better ammo management, more magical words and the option to "store" known words so you don't have to click them together before every casting.

Some Mechwarrior Game: One of the few games that can actually truly benefit from modern graphics and physics. Not dumbed down shit like MW4, more like MW2 or 3 (can't remember which one I played, but it had far more customization and weapons systems going for it than MW4), with an open campaign and online (arena) fights.

Realms of Arcania: With better UI, inventory, tool-tips, optional auto-map, hex grid instead of squares, better graphics

GoldBox: in an improved ToEE engine.

M&M : Some non declined re-iteration that's bug-free.

Wizardry: Doesn't need to do much different from Wiz8. More content, more special encounters, far less random mobs. I'd also expect slight improvement on the graphical side, but that's not really needed.