Vapourware Realms Beyond: Ashes of the Fallen - Chaos Chronicles reborn and dead again

[Sherry]

It's been amusing but I guess it's time I stopped looking at other sites wrt this game... but the next time someone says the Dex is packed with lunatics have a read of this gem

Spoiler

Hi.

omg!!

wtf?? i s the TheRealFluent, AFakeFluent, AFluent, Fluent the same one here who played those fake rpgmaker games and Lord of Xulima all the time on s ateam controller anbd what scam okay? Is a scam a kickstart with combat based on individual actions in order of who goes first without cheating like in that text porn game by the blonde belgium guy? A kickstart with interactive items you can push or pull and move around to find hidden keys under barrels to unlock the secret door you found behind a painting like in ultima games? A kickstart with open world movement where you could walks into a hut and get killed by a slime at level one okay? Or a kickstart that useing ruleset folks know and a world map you can move around like in ultima too? Okay and not everyone has money out of pocket to PR stretagy when you are looking to kickstart for the game omg!!! That is not a scam okay!! That is why there is kickstart okay?? I am sorr but this FakeFluent or AFluent or TheRealFluent or ARealFluent needs to go because they remind me of someone from brossard quebec who thinks they can speak french but only talks in french slang when someone born in france talks to them in real french and just gets pissed off from having to listen to a french canadian!@!

Thanks,
Sherry

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

Jesus, you know someone's really gone off the rails when people start pulling their punches.

 

[Fowyr]

RPGWatch deleted this post, Silver Coin is renamed to Copper Coin.
Hobgoblin42 is still treacherous asshole that makes shovelware and licks scabies-ridden feet of every libtard mongrel at RPGWatch. News at 11.

P.S. Sherry is still fat male Canadian NWN modder.

 

[Infinitron]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ceresgames/realms-beyond-ashes-of-the-fallen/posts/2323380

Micro Update #3: 50% funding reached, first stretch goal revealed and Chinese version!

We've already reached half of our funding goal a week into our campaign - thanks to our great backers!

Now, it's time to reveal our first stretch goal:

Francesca Baerald, exceptionally talented artist and cartographer from Italy, will create the map of our world. Her artful rendition of Argea will be included in the game box on high quality cotton paper, and will also appear in-game.

To see more of her work, please visit her webpage. Follow her on Twitter at @FBaerald.

More stretch goals and, of course, content updates are in the pipeline – watch this space.

And, last but not least: we’re very pleased to announce that we will offer a Chinese version of Realms Beyond as well!

Many thanks for your continuous support!

 

[YanBG]

Mmm, spicy cartographer.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Chinese? Is there really a market in China for this kind of game?

 

[CryptRat]

There's a market for every kind of game in China. That it has not been a common habit to translate games in chinese yet (I'm sure it is going to be, because Steam) may actually be a reason why it's even more of a good move to translate your game into chinese, the alternatives for potential customers who can't play games in English being fewer. I may be wrong.

 

[Aemar]

It's been amusing but I guess it's time I stopped looking at other sites wrt this game... but the next time someone says the Dex is packed with lunatics have a read of this gem

Spoiler

Hi.

omg!!

wtf?? i s the TheRealFluent, AFakeFluent, AFluent, Fluent the same one here who played those fake rpgmaker games and Lord of Xulima all the time on s ateam controller anbd what scam okay? Is a scam a kickstart with combat based on individual actions in order of who goes first without cheating like in that text porn game by the blonde belgium guy? A kickstart with interactive items you can push or pull and move around to find hidden keys under barrels to unlock the secret door you found behind a painting like in ultima games? A kickstart with open world movement where you could walks into a hut and get killed by a slime at level one okay? Or a kickstart that useing ruleset folks know and a world map you can move around like in ultima too? Okay and not everyone has money out of pocket to PR stretagy when you are looking to kickstart for the game omg!!! That is not a scam okay!! That is why there is kickstart okay?? I am sorr but this FakeFluent or AFluent or TheRealFluent or ARealFluent needs to go because they remind me of someone from brossard quebec who thinks they can speak french but only talks in french slang when someone born in france talks to them in real french and just gets pissed off from having to listen to a french canadian!@!

Thanks,
Sherry

Will the real Fluent please stand up?

 

[Grauken]

Isn't that just fluent?

Yes, a real Fluent never changes

Someone should mercykill him

 

[fantadomat]

Chinese? Is there really a market in China for this kind of game?

China have 2 milliards of people in it,of course there is a market for RPGs.

 

[getter77]

Low Magic Age definitely has a compatible audience at the absolute minimum---so this isn't a surprising move.

 

[Bester]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ceresgames/realms-beyond-ashes-of-the-fallen/posts/2323380

Micro Update #3: 50% funding reached, first stretch goal revealed and Chinese version!

We've already reached half of our funding goal a week into our campaign - thanks to our great backers!

Now, it's time to reveal our first stretch goal:

Francesca Baerald, exceptionally talented artist and cartographer from Italy, will create the map of our world. Her artful rendition of Argea will be included in the game box on high quality cotton paper, and will also appear in-game.

To see more of her work, please visit her webpage. Follow her on Twitter at @FBaerald.

More stretch goals and, of course, content updates are in the pipeline – watch this space.

And, last but not least: we’re very pleased to announce that we will offer a Chinese version of Realms Beyond as well!

Many thanks for your continuous support!

I happen to know Francesca's rates, because I looked very closely at her works when searching for a cartographer a year ago.

She's one of the three extremely talented freelance cartographers on deviantart. The only reason I didn't hire her, is because she oil paints and then scans, which diminishes the quality of the final product. The other two do it digitally.
She has since then deleted her page with her rates (I now see why), but the waybackmachine has it.

Stretchgoal of 5,000 € for something that costs 250 €.

Nice going there, HobGoblin42

 

[Jimmious]

The last name "Baerald" is fantastic. Would fit most fantasy settings, easily.

 

[haderlump]

There might be a difference between something you buy for your living room and something that gets used in a comercial product, maybe.
I just don't get this stretchgoal, they obviously were going to have a map and already promised to have one in the box as well. Does this now mean they change the artist or what?

 

[Bester]

There might be a difference between something you buy for your living room and something that gets used in a comercial product, maybe.

Yes and no.

Yes, because the rights to use it in a commercial project need to be agreed upon explicitly, and no because commercial use is the intended purpose of most commissions. If she relied only on work that wasn't intended to be used commercially, she'd get no commissions. Sometimes adding 50€ for commercial usage is fine, but adding 4,750€ is not.

And secondly, no, because there are at least 2 other great artists with similar fees (around 250€ per map) who grant permission for commercial use. If she indeed asked for 5k for a map, these two guys would do it for 250 easily and she'd again be without a job: Maxime Plasse and Robert Altbauer.

 

[Berekän]

Stretch goals are incentives to make people pledge more, but that doesn't mean the amount raised to unlock that goal has to be fully invested into that specific goal, it's extremely naive to think that it does.

 

[Bester]

Stretch goals are incentives to make people pledge more, but that doesn't mean the amount raised to unlock that goal has to be fully invested into that specific goal, it's extremely naive to think that it does.

Sure.

But it's at least somewhat dishonest to put 1/20 of the stretch-goal to its intended purpose, and pocket the 19/20 of it for yourself.

I'd understand 1/2 ratio even.

 

[Berekän]

Would you rather have it the other way? Hire an artist to make a 4750€ map and use the remaining 250€ for the development?

Stretch goals are just another carrot on the stick, the ultimate goal is the development of the game.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

Those maps

 

[Bester]

Would you rather have it the other way? Hire an artist to make a 4750€ map and use the remaining 250€ for the development?

Stretch goals are just another carrot on the stick, the ultimate goal is the development of the game.

Considering the donations nature of these payments, it's like begging for 10k for medicine for a kid, then using $500, while pocketing the rest. Of course I don't like it.

I want full disclosure and transparency. You fanboys are mad cucks.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Those 2 you linked have good looking maps but the chick's stuff is on a completely different level. Not to say her stuff is worth 20 times more, but she probably wouldn't be out of a job even at 3 times the cost of those guys.

Edit: It even looks like she's doing the lettering by hand while the others very obviously use fonts.

 

[Volrath]

Yep, that's some cool art.

Still won't get funded though.

 

[Bohr]

Considering the donations nature of these payments, it's like begging for 10k for medicine for a kid, then using $500, while pocketing the rest. Of course I don't like it.

I want full disclosure and transparency. You fanboys are mad cucks.

I don't see it quite the same way, given that they have already invested a lot in developing this game and it will almost certainly cost a lot more than $100k to even get close to what they've planned, I think they need every bit of cash they can get. So I wouldn't call it "pocketing" as in the above example, more like keeping the lights on.

 

[Bester]

given that they have already invested a lot in developing this game and it will almost certainly cost a lot more than $100k to even get close to what they've planned

So make the correct funding goal, that's what developers have been fucking up for years. First they make the goal too small, then there's all these excuses why the game comes out half baked, or doesn't even come out at all.

Or do you mean you're going to lowball the goal again and then hope to be able to make the game? Don't people have enough of this shit already?

 

[YanBG]

Bester I'm pretty sure the 5k isn't only for her.

Btw comrade, you worked on games?

Maxime Plasse and Robert Altbauer.

There were no slavic artists?