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The Legend of Heroes Thread - Trails of Cold Steel in the Sky

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by Crooked Bee, Feb 16, 2014.

  1. HoboForEternity In every buttons you press Patron

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    for all the flack cold steel get compared to other kiseki (meh to just decent characters, too much cast not enough depth) it is still my favorite world building in the series. the cast aren't as good as sky or crossbell, but man the world building and erebonia is fascinating.

    the thing is, the world building isn't too much spoon fed like character development that comes naturally from dialogue in story cutscenes. you have to talk to all the random citizens, read news paper, do some side quests to get all the nuances, it helps to if you have interest in politics, sociology or history.

    i found the effect of orbal revolution portrayed in erebonia is fascinating and multi layered. small example is like how orbal revolution presented an economic opportunity to regular citizens (reinford group, et cetera) even lower classes (by learning trade and "upgrade" their job as farmers to merchant or orbal crafts) , slowly displacing the noble's role as the sole major economic force in the empire. these social revolution brought by technological advancement also affect politics and how commoners start proliferating into goverment, compromising the noble's status quo even further that these events finally culminating into civil war, where osborne use the chance to take over and fulfill his own agenda.
     
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  2. Endemic Arcane

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    Decided to try out Zero, it's better than I expected. Translation's obviously a little rough, with leftover Japanese grammar in places but still workable.

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  3. HoboForEternity In every buttons you press Patron

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    i am holding out for geofront, not only for translation quality, but QoL life like hi res UI, proper resolution scaling for PC version and turbo mode.
     
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  4. Endemic Arcane

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    Okay, have a Cold Steel meme then. :P

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  5. Seboist Arcane Patron

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    Rean's not dense, it's just that his heart belongs to another gal.
     
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  6. Ysaye Learned

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    His brain is still trying to process the size of Emma's...intellect.
     
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  7. Endemic Arcane

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    Based on what I've seen of CS3, both Sara and Emma found the air pump. :lol:

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  8. HoboForEternity In every buttons you press Patron

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    Well emma was like 17, she is still growing.

    Sara is like 25 in cold steel 1 so the logical conclusion is the latest orbal medical revolution to pump silicone into her mommies
     
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  9. Seboist Arcane Patron

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    Rean better be pumpin some iron in order to lift dem puppies up.
     
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  10. Momock Learned

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    Sara's boobs are exacly the same I think. For Emma maybe it's the angle from where they're shot that gives the impression that they're bigger.
     
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  11. Kaivokz Savant

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    I actually haven’t played Trails in the Sky yet. I just can’t get into long RPGs on handhelds unless it’s 80% combat 15% character customization and 5% story. I did buy the trilogy on Steam now and I’m currently playing through FC with my GF. It will probably take awhile because of scheduling (it took us 8 months to beat Persona 5 w/ around 200hrs played), but it seems pretty acclaimed among the JRPG crowd here so I look forward to it.

    I have to say world building and combat in cold steel is mostly what I enjoy, but the characters aren’t bad. Combat in TitS FC seems worse. We’re playing on nightmare which adds a challenge, but overall it feels less satisfying so far. Maybe because only 2-3 characters in party and not very interesting crafts or much variety in orbs.
     
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  12. Garbage Literate

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    Hope all of you interested in finding out the deal with Rean's power introduced in 1, won't really be touched on in 3. You're going to have to wait all the way until 4 to get that shit.
    God Cold Steel's story frustrates me to no end.
     
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  13. Rean Codex Grammar Police Patron

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    It’s going to be great.
     
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  14. Somberlain Arcane Zionist Agent

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    It's a big deal in 3 but won't be explained until 4.
     
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    Which is fine because it (CS3) is supposedly a really good game with a large but detailed world, better, smaller party balance, lots of reveals and character (re)-introductions etc....just with supposedly it has a CS1 style ending on steroids. Most of the Kiseki crack sleuths guessed what the deal with Rean was before four came out anyway.

    Let's face it; there is always going to be unresolved stuff at the end of a Kiseki game!- there is a high likelihood we will still be wondering who Anton and Ricky REALLY are even after the Calvard series finishes.

    To a degree it is not what it is but how it is delivered that's important.
     
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    So for a newcomer to the Tales series without 180 hours to pour into a single game... Is CS1 a good place to start?
     
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  17. Kaivokz Savant

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    If you don’t want to invest 100-200 hours, I wouldn’t start any of the modern trails games. Maybe ao and zero, but I don’t know much about those. Tales games, on the other hand, are not as long.
     
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    Mysteries that are pretty central and unusual to a character revealed in the first game, I expect them to be somewhat explained in the second. The series is happy with showering Rean with weird ogre abilities but you won't find out what on earth it is for three and a bit games.
    I honestly don't enjoy being blue balled so much.
     
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  19. Jinn Arcane

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    One of the reasons you're going to be playing the Trails series in general is for the overarching world building and character development. This is a series with these two things specifically kept in mind and intricately developed over the course of 9 games (so far). That being said, all the Trails in the Sky games are under 100 hours. I ended up finishing both FC and SC at around 80 hours each. What I'm getting at is that if you want the full effect of the series, you'd better be ready to put a lot of hours into it. From what I know, a lot of the excellent moments in the CS series will be completely lost on you without the prior connection to the world and characters from previous games.
     
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  20. Urthor Arbiter Patron

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    I talked to the Geofront people in discord, apparently it's on schedule for this year so yeah patient gamers especially since they are patching shit.

    This is trails not tails get out

    I wouldn't say they are 180 hour games but they are definitely full sized games, 60+. Trails in the Sky is the start, you do not skip Trails in the Sky 1 & 2, and it's definitely not small but gargantuan.
     
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    Crow's dialogue makes for good photoshop material:

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  22. Starwars Arcane

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    So I have Trails in the Sky in my library and a while ago I decided to try it very briefly. People seem to be praising it a lot all over. But I was really put off by how... well, ANIME the relationships seemed to be between the main character, the chick and the father. Yes, ohohoh, the girl is very uncute my word yes. She gets so angry at everything, ahahaha, what a tomboy.

    I only tried it for a few hours but the opening was so stereotypically japanese and anime that I just couldn't deal. Does the game break away from this? Obviously I understand that there's a huge following so there's something going on in these games that are interesting but do I have to suffer these kinds of interactions and characters throughout the whole thing or does it go into other interesting areas instead?
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  23. Max Damage Learned

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    My last save is in Act 2 (Ruan), it doesn't break away from the format so far. The game is ok but pretty glacial in its pacing. If you're looking for any development anytime soon, it's not going to happen. I kinda dropped the game at this point because your party is back to 2 characters again, and progress has slowed to halt. I didn't mind the repetitive format in Prologue and Act 1 much, but by this point I expect the pace to speed up, and it does the exact opposite. Last thing I remember is I came to bracer's guild and they tell you to go sightseeing around the town while the guy I need to talk to comes back. And this after a long time of fuck all happening. I pretty much ran across the whole city and then closed the game because I'm still told to go sightseeing, and by this point my interest is at 0 because gameplay isn't that good, and the ok writing can't salvage story that takes eternity to unfold.
     
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  24. Rean Codex Grammar Police Patron

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    Ruan is one of the most interesting acts of TITS 1...
     
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  25. Swigen Learned

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    Trails in the Sky really blows until the very end. The payoff is you end up with really well developed characters that have much more compelling stuff happen to them throughout the series. It’s like reading a Stephen King novel in that most of the book is character development and the horror doesn’t come ‘til much later but when it does you know so much about the characters that you actually give a fuck what happens to them.
     
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