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The PS5 and Xbox 2 thread - it's happening

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Makabb, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. vortex Fabulous Optimist

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    ps5 will have RDNA2, maybe. It could run with 60 fps with raytracing.
     
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  2. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    that is expected for the basic ps5...... so the ps5 pro should be even better.
     
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  3. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    You guys are destined for disappointment.
     
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  4. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    I won't be disppointed becaue i'm just speculating on what we heard so far...... i'll take whatever specs sony will announce.
     
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  5. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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  6. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    Patenting stuff doesn't mean it will be in the end product. It could just mean they want to protect their inventions and sue competitors if necessary.
     
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  7. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    -Sony confirms PS5 for late 2020
    -it will be named 'Playstation 5'
    - Ray tracing support is hardware based
    - Controller has now adaptive triggers, haptic feedback, new speakers, USB Type-C

     
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  8. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    more info !

    PlayStation 5 supports ray-tracing. This is not a software-level fix. “There is ray-tracing acceleration in the GPU hardware,” system architect Mark Cerny said, “which I believe is the statement that people were looking for.”

    Physical games will use 100 gigabyte optical discs, which are inserted into an optical drive that doubles as a 4K Blu-ray player.

    Game installation is mandatory, but is a bit different than game installation on PlayStation 4. Installation and removal is a more configurable process. “Rather than treating games like a big block of data,” Cerny said, “we’re allowing finer-grained access to the data.” For example, you may be able to install just a game’s multiplayer campaign, and leave the single-player campaign for later. Or install the whole thing and delete the single-player campaign when you have finished.

    The user interface has been completely revamped. “Even though it will be fairly fast to boot games, we don’t want the player to have to boot the game, see what’s up, boot the game, see what’s up,” Cerny said. “Multiplayer game servers will provide the console with the set of joinable activities in real time. Single-player games will provide information like what missions you could do and what rewards you might receive for completing them—and all of those choices will be visible in the UI. As a player you just jump right into whatever you like.

    The PlayStation 5 controller looks like the DualShock 4, but has a little hole in it, which Cerny said will be discussed at a later time. One of its new features is the “adaptive triggers,” which offer varying levels of resistance, which can make shooting a bow feel authentic in that the tension increases as you pull the arrow back, or make a machine gun feel different from shooting a shotgun. It also has haptic feedback “far more capable” than the current rumble motors, with highly programmable voice-coil actuators located in the left and right grips of the controller

    he PlayStation 5 controller uses a USB Type-C connector for charging and has a larger-capacity battery. While a bit heavier than the DualShock 4, it will still be a bit lighter than the current Xbox controller “with batteries in it.”

    Shadow of the Colossus developer Bluepoint Games is working on a PlayStation 5 title. “We’re working on a big one right now,” said Bluepoint Games president Marco Thrush. “I’ll let you figure out the rest.” He added, “The SSD has me really excited. You don’t need to do gameplay hacks anymore to artificially slow players down—lock them behind doors, anything like that. Back in the cartridge days, games used to load instantly; we’re kind of going back to what consoles used to be.
     
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  9. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    inb4 100-200GB PC ports that you have to download, ouch
     
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  10. Ivan Arcane

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    Bloodborne 2 announcement :takemymoney::takemymoney::takemymoney:
     
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  11. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    Playstation 5 already won next generation, they got everything that one would expect a console should have
     
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  12. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    ssd and hardware ray tracing, this thing will be 600$ minimum
     
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  13. flyingjohn Arcane

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    Except worthwhile games.
     
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  14. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    I suppose the PC ports will jack up RAM requirements to 32GB to substitute for the console's SSD.
     
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  15. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    next 2-3 years will be a bad time for PC ports, the leap of this gen is bigger than ever in history of vidya.
     
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  16. vortex Fabulous Optimist

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    The only PC ports Sony should do is Last of us 2 and Bloodborne1/2.
     
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  17. Perkel Arcane

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    doubt it.

    What you are looking at is 25-30fps console with SOME raytracing and probably 500GB SSD which costs like nothing.
     
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  18. Azalin Arcane Patron

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    The ray tracing part is the most interesting to me because if they include it that means that xbox 2 will include it too and that means that almost all AAA games from 2020 and onwards will most likely integrate ray tracing.

    Unfortunately that means that I may have to change my plans for my next pc which I want to buy by the end of the year,I was planning to get a 1660 ti but now after this I may have to change that to a 2060
     
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  19. sullynathan Arcane

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    Microsoft already confirmed Raytracing in a video at E3 posted here like a few months ago. Both consoles coming Winter/Fall 2020 are going to be incredibly similar.
     
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  20. Tehdagah Arcane

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    Oh of course. Also apparently the backwards compatibility is only with the PS4 and it isn't even 100%.

    Thinking about changing to Xbox next gen, the 'game pass' deal is just too good. PS Plus is a joke.
     
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  21. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    The 2080ti has "raytracing hardware" in it, but can barely play Control at 1080p60 with all of it turned on. No way the PS5 has a better GPU than a 2080ti. So I see three possibilities: 1) same level of raytracing but a huge focus on reconstruction techniques like consoles already do, meaning low internal resolutions, or 2) very limited raytracing implementation, like just reflections and only in a limited area, or 3) while the GPU is more normal in spec, they really load up on the raytracing cores and make it the signature visual aspect of the console.
     
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  22. fork Cipher

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    4) 25fps
     
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  23. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    That's a given. Control is 25fps on PS4 Pro half the time, even without raytracing.
     
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  24. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    Don't expect these consoles using RTRT as extensively as the marketing wizards want you to believe. In practice, this hardware will just about provide enough juice to render some selected reflections, make ambient occlusion more accurate and throw in some prettier shadows. In other words, render a cleaner frame overall, not blow you out of the water.
     
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