World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Fedora Master]

Minos effortlessly defeated Prias and took Helena with him back to Argos. There he fed from her in a slow and agonizing way to punish her. When Minos finally gave her the Embrace her first meal was to be her own father.

Wow, that's all around stupid.
E: Oh they meant biological father, not her sire.

 

[Semiurge]

lol at the rose, this fucking genre...

The Toreador rose is like the "memento mori" skulls on paintings. Lest you mortals forget that there is a Toreador in it.

Forgive my raging autism, but that chick is supposed to be a ~3300-year-old Toreador (Helena) with an Appearance score of 8. For those who might not know, a score of 5 is considered the human apex, meaning people like Newton would have an Intelligence score of 5, world champion strongmen would have a Strength score of 5 etc.

The chick in that image does not look like she's 3 standard deviations above the handful of the most beautiful women in the world.

Looks like Gia or Cindy. No last names needed, they're so blue collar.

Slap some shades on that and it's spot on.

 

[ChildInTime]

Forgive my raging autism, but that chick is supposed to be a ~3300-year-old Toreador (Helena) with an Appearance score of 8. For those who might not know, a score of 5 is considered the human apex, meaning people like Newton would have an Intelligence score of 5, world champion strongmen would have a Strength score of 5 etc.

The chick in that image does not look like she's 3 standard deviations above the handful of the most beautiful women in the world.

You can't really show what attributes above 5 look and feel like, characters that are supposed to be literal genius planners thinking centuries ahead doing stupid shit, or a high ranking Camarilla Ventrue sitting like an idiot on a TV talk show about vampires being real (from that one Gehenna scenario) was pretty normal for WW back then.

 

[Semiurge]

The chick in that image does not look like she's 3 standard deviations above the handful of the most beautiful women in the world.

Beauty such as hers can't be captured by means of any media, it must be experienced

 

[Fedora Master]

The chick in that image does not look like she's 3 standard deviations above the handful of the most beautiful women in the world.

Beauty such as hers can't be captured by means of any media, it must be experienced

That is probably indeed the point. Vampires (and Garou) are supposed to have animal magnetism, so if anything, seeing her would probably flood your brain with oxytocin as if you were in love. Of course in that case the person looks much better than in reality.

 

[Bloodeyes]

Forgive my raging autism, but that chick is supposed to be a ~3300-year-old Toreador (Helena) with an Appearance score of 8. For those who might not know, a score of 5 is considered the human apex, meaning people like Newton would have an Intelligence score of 5, world champion strongmen would have a Strength score of 5 etc.

The chick in that image does not look like she's 3 standard deviations above the handful of the most beautiful women in the world.

Ok but how do you paint something like that? Beauty so sublime that it has never existed. Even the old masters wouldn't be able to manage it and if they did that piece of character art would literally be the most beautiful thing anyone had ever seen. Is it fair to expect that in an RPG rulebook?

Here's a more in universe approach to the question: Is her appearance literal physical perfection or an induced state "in the eye of the beholder" resulting from her supernatural vampiric spiritual essence? I think the latter is more plausible. Three standard deviations above the human peak has to come from something more than her physical beauty, that's got to be a supernaturally induced psychological effect. Not a discipline per se, just a passive buff granted by her Toreador bloodline.

Edit: Others beat me to it.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Looks exactly like the old VtM rulebooks. So closer to the source than that abortion we call Bloodlines 2.

White doves? Is John Woo nearby?

 

[Avarize]

You can't paint supernatural beauty but you could try to at least paint beauty. That's just a mildly attractive woman, made worse by the AOC expression.

 

[Lacrymas]

You can't paint supernatural beauty but you could try to at least paint beauty. That's just a mildly attractive woman, made worse by the AOC expression.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Tacgnol]

Wesp5's mod Prequel lets you play as a vampire hunter, and if that doesnt satisfy you, you can play as a Dante-traced Hunter in Hunter the Vigil.

I prefer to play as a Frank or Dee Reynolds-traced Hunter in Hunter: The Vigil. The "main" city of Vigil is Philadelphia, after all.

"A few days ago, three Nosferatu tried to mug me. These punks, I dunno whether they wanted money or maybe something more sexual. But it's a lucky thing I had my pieces. I started blasting, I don't see so good so I probably missed em a bunch of times."
- WOD Frank

A ton of money is a pretty good power to be fair.

 

[Lacrymas]

"A few days ago, three Nosferatu tried to mug me. These punks, I dunno whether they wanted money or maybe something more sexual.

I find this phrasing very funny because it kinda suggests someone taking your money is sexual, and something else is even more sexual.

 

[Tacgnol]

"A few days ago, three Nosferatu tried to mug me. These punks, I dunno whether they wanted money or maybe something more sexual.

I find this phrasing very funny because it kinda suggests someone taking your money is sexual, and something else is even more sexual.

To Frank it probably is.

 

[Feargus Jewhart]

y'all still arguing about a game that might as well be cancelled huh.

 

[Harthwain]

y'all still arguing about a game that might as well be cancelled huh.

Aren't the last two pages about Gothos and WoD in general?

 

[Feargus Jewhart]

Aren't the last two pages about Gothos and WoD in general?

i dont know, i cant read

 

[Caim]

y'all still arguing about a game that might as well be cancelled huh.

We're like Guru Larry's continued presence on Channel Awesome at this point: we will sail this leak-filled fail boat to the bottom of the ocean just to see what'll happen and for the lulz.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The chick in that image does not look like she's 3 standard deviations above the handful of the most beautiful women in the world.

Beauty such as hers can't be captured by means of any media, it must be experienced

That is probably indeed the point. Vampires (and Garou) are supposed to have animal magnetism, so if anything, seeing her would probably flood your brain with oxytocin as if you were in love. Of course in that case the person looks much better than in reality.

Tfw no big tiddy vampire gf.

 

[Avarize]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Mostly not.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

I find this phrasing very funny because it kinda suggests someone taking your money is sexual, and something else is even more sexual.

Spoiler

 

[alyvain]

To be honest, I just hope that the game will sound nice. I like the fan-made Deb of Night playlist, which is approximately 90 minutes, so it's convenient to use when I want to work on something for an hour or two.

 

[Zombra]

Can't capture all that in any drawing.

One example will do.

 

[Avarize]

I already explained my position that you can't get all the way there but you can certainly make a better attempt.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Still wondering why Paradox is keeping it silent about what studio they chose to replace Hardsuit.

The second question of course would be their exact intentions. Are they genuinely trying to save this one to the point of funding an almost complete do-over or just to wrap it up in a somewhat serviceable form to cut their losses?

If it’s the latter, it would be pretty damning for the previous studio that they couldn’t even manage that.

 

[Zombra]

I already explained my position that you can't get all the way there but you can certainly make a better attempt.

Then it should be easy to post one example you can't make that criticism about.

 

[Avarize]

I already explained my position that you can't get all the way there but you can certainly make a better attempt.

Then it should be easy to post one example you can't make that criticism about.

It is extremely easy. I googled "beautiful woman painting" and this was the first result.

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