World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Mr. Magniloquent]

The Bloodlines 2 model has a substantially broader face, wider nose bridge, stronger jawline, and sunken eyes. While Damsel in the original was relatively low resolution, she was at least feminine. Even disregarding looks, Damsel has no appeal at all. Just a typical commie idiot. Half-cocked ideas and ruled by emotions and false piety. The concept of anarchs in vampire society is a dumb as a faction gets anyway. Childish egalitarians in a system where (super)natural inequality could not be more obvious. I'd bet a bottle of patchouli she's just pissed that she wasn't sired by a ventrue.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The Bloodlines 2 model has a substantially broader face, wider nose bridge, stronger jawline, and sunken eyes. While Damsel in the original was relatively low resolution, she was at least feminine. Even disregarding looks, Damsel has no appeal at all. Just a typical commie idiot. Half-cocked ideas and ruled by emotions and false piety. The concept of anarchs in vampire society is a dumb as a faction gets anyway. Childish egalitarians in a system where (super)natural inequality could not be more obvious. I'd bet a bottle of patchouli she's just pissed that she wasn't sired by a ventrue.

Fact: female anarchs want to be dominated by muscular chud cammies.

 

[Harthwain]

The concept of anarchs in vampire society is a dumb as a faction gets anyway. Childish egalitarians in a system where (super)natural inequality could not be more obvious.

The way I understood it the Anarchs in Bloodlines were basically independents fighting to remain free from the Camarilla. It wasn't supposed to be egalitarian, communist, marxist or whatever movement. And Damsel is but one vampire among the Anarchs, not a poster child for all of them (you get characters such as Nines, Isaac or Jack, all of which are very different in approach). At least in Bloodlines 1. I have no idea what plans there were for the Anarchs or Damsel in Bloodlines 2.

 

[Nutria]

Wasn't Damsel supposed to be some young kid who hasn't learned yet that punk rock isn't an ideology? Why are they making her look like she's 40?

 

[Storyfag]

The concept of anarchs in vampire society is a dumb as a faction gets anyway. Childish egalitarians in a system where (super)natural inequality could not be more obvious.

The way I understood it the Anarchs in Bloodlines were basically independents fighting to remain free from the Camarilla. It wasn't supposed to be egalitarian, communist, marxist or whatever movement. And Damsel is but one vampire among the Anarchs, not a poster child for all of them (you get characters such as Nines, Isaac or Jack, all of which are very different in approach). At least in Bloodlines 1. I have no idea what plans there were for the Anarchs or Damsel in Bloodlines 2.

While Isaac is just a Prince by another name, Nines fits with Damsel all too well.

 

[Silverfish]

I don't know why, but this entire conversation about female physiques seems extremely gay.

It's because they're talking about aesthetic beauty (gay) and not tits (cool and hetero).

 

[Lacrymas]

Everyone can fuck skinny, beautiful chicks, only real men can fuck fat, ugly ones. That's why I have a boyfriend now.

 

[Silverfish]

That's not why.

 

[fantadomat]

Everyone can fuck skinny, beautiful chicks, only real men can fuck fat, ugly ones. That's why I have a boyfriend now.

It is seems that the codexian vixen got fat during the lockdown..... Hóngwèibīng ,NJClaw .

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Paradox is the most retarded fucking company in existence:
-These guys were all incompetent and unable to finish the game, also their head-writer was a rapist or something, we've fired them all and hired new people
-Don't worry, all the assets made by a bunch of incompetent rapists had been handled to the new guys, please get hyped for the game

 

[Lacrymas]

Are they incompetent in raping people, oooor?

 

[Harthwain]

While Isaac is just a Prince by another name, Nines fits with Damsel all too well.

They are all different characters though. Isaac may act like a prince, but he makes it certain he's only the baron of Hollywood (as in: very local, compared to the whole state). Nines is the head of the Anarchs. I'd say "nominally" but this is made evident he's their unifying leader when the Cabby brings you to him when you decide to side with the Anarchs. Nines is purposefully made into an overly idealistic cool dude (way too much to be realistic, in my opinion) who constantly says he's nobody's boss to make it easier to side with the Anarchs (also, because both Jack and Nines help you a bunch of times, their motives aside). But it also makes sense for the Anarchs to use Nines as their headpiece, because he isn't butting into anybody's business while fighting for everyone's independence. Damsel fits with all that, but she amounts to an edgy "fuck the power!" (read: Camarilla) punk/rebel girl and not much more.

What I find really sad is that literally everyone can be liked or at least respected to some degree. Everyone except LaCroix.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Everyone except LaCroix.

You can empathize with him to a certain degree though since he's clearly in over his head and unqualified to deal with what Jack put into motion.

 

[Storyfag]

Isaac may act like a prince, but he makes it certain he's only the baron of Hollywood (as in: very local, compared to the whole state).

You have no idea how titles and territories work in WtM, do you?

 

[Avarize]

Brujah is the clan you play as a teenager. Then you grow up and choose Ventrue.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Brujah is the clan you play as a teenager. Then you grow up and choose Ventrue Tremere.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Storyfag]

Brujah is the clan you play as a teenager. Then you grow up and choose Ventrue.

Camarilla whelp! Mere pawn in the hands of the fathers!

Brujah is the clan you play as a teenager. Then you grow up and choose Ventrue Tremere.

Fixed that for you.

The szlachta pit is that way.

 

[Harthwain]

You have no idea how titles and territories work in WtM, do you?

No. Bloodlines was the first time I ever heard of a baron. Before Bloodlines it was always a prince as a ruler. Also, Isaac was very particular about calling himself "baron of Hollywood", so... My bad, I stand corrected.

You can empathize with him to a certain degree though since he's clearly in over his head and unqualified to deal with what Jack put into motion.

Except he is the prince with who-knows-how-long record (at least judging by Bloodlines. I don't think you are even given his biography in game), so he should be smarter than he is presented (as a cheap schemer nobody should really fall for). The player, by contrast, is some fresh no-name bitten by god-knows-who and is only spared to show the Anarchs that the Camarilla is benevolent, and that's purely due to a strong objection from the Anarchs.

 

[Storyfag]

You have no idea how titles and territories work in WtM, do you?

No. Bloodlines was the first time I ever heard of a baron. Before Bloodlines it was always a prince as a ruler. Also, Isaac was very particular about calling himself "baron of Hollywood", so... My bad, I stand corrected.

Granted, it is confusing and completely silly and it is good intuition to consider a baron to hold lesser territory than a prince. Not in VtM tho.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Except he is the prince with who-knows-how-long record (at least judging by Bloodlines. I don't think you are even given his biography in game), so he should be smarter than he is presented (as a cheap schemer nobody should really fall for). The player, by contrast, is some fresh no-name bitten by god-knows-who and is only spared to show the Anarchs that the Camarilla is benevolent, and that's purely due to a strong objection from the Anarchs.

The player is Caine's pawn tho.
There's even a very valid theory that your sire is Caine himself, and your memories are fake.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

You can empathize with him to a certain degree though since he's clearly in over his head and unqualified to deal with what Jack put into motion.

Except he is the prince with who-knows-how-long record (at least judging by Bloodlines. I don't think you are even given his biography in game), so he should be smarter than he is presented (as a cheap schemer nobody should really fall for). The player, by contrast, is some fresh no-name bitten by god-knows-who and is only spared to show the Anarchs that the Camarilla is benevolent, and that's purely due to a strong objection by the Anarchs.

Lacroix is just exhibiting the typical flaws of a Ventrue which are being overemphasized in this case due to the PC being a Mary Sue (ergo the common headcanon that the taxi driver is Cain and that he influenced your character's development). If you were the typical recently embraced shmuck, his scheming would've worked (either through simple manipulation or outright domination). Not to mention that scheming of this type (=/= feuding) is more of a Tremere (and maybe Lasombra?) thing rather than a Ventrue trait.

 

[Storyfag]

Except he is the prince with who-knows-how-long record (at least judging by Bloodlines. I don't think you are even given his biography in game)

You can ask him about himself. He was an officer in Napoleon's armies, so pretty young as Princes go, but not outside the norm for the New World. It is hinted that LA is his first Principality, so his experience is years at worst.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Except he is the prince with who-knows-how-long record (at least judging by Bloodlines. I don't think you are even given his biography in game)

You can ask him about himself. He was an officer in Napoleon's armies, so pretty young as Princes go, but not outside the norm for the New World. It is hinted that LA is his first Principality, so his experience is years at worst.

They sure did have an interesting accent in 19th century France.

 

[whydoibother]

Except he is the prince with who-knows-how-long record (at least judging by Bloodlines. I don't think you are even given his biography in game)

You can ask him about himself. He was an officer in Napoleon's armies, so pretty young as Princes go, but not outside the norm for the New World. It is hinted that LA is his first Principality, so his experience is years at worst.

They sure did have an interesting accent in 19th century France.

Accent isn't genetic, you can train to talk differently. And as a foreign ruler, you should.

 

[Storyfag]

Except he is the prince with who-knows-how-long record (at least judging by Bloodlines. I don't think you are even given his biography in game)

You can ask him about himself. He was an officer in Napoleon's armies, so pretty young as Princes go, but not outside the norm for the New World. It is hinted that LA is his first Principality, so his experience is years at worst.

They sure did have an interesting accent in 19th century France.

Because learning new accents over a 100 years spent in America is impossibiru.