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Game News $300 Million for Fallout 3 as 4.7 Million units ship
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MetalCraze
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4.7 mln sales = bullshit.
It's a well-known marketing practice to lie about numbers just to make sheeple believe that this shit is cool and they must buy it, because all cool kids on the block play it.
Of course if you will claim that this is true and Beth sold 2 times more FO3 in a week than Oblivion in 2 years.
(Also remember how Oblivion sold 1.7 mln copies in the first week and the real number of sales that was 1.5 mln only a year later)
It's a well-known marketing practice to lie about numbers just to make sheeple believe that this shit is cool and they must buy it, because all cool kids on the block play it.
Of course if you will claim that this is true and Beth sold 2 times more FO3 in a week than Oblivion in 2 years.
(Also remember how Oblivion sold 1.7 mln copies in the first week and the real number of sales that was 1.5 mln only a year later)
Well Beth shipped 4,7 million units to shops, but how many have been really sold of those, who knows. And if they don't sell well enough, the shops can return unsold copies, I think.
MetalCraze
Arcane
It is certainly a $victory$ for bethesda anyway, the only question - how big is it?
Also $300 mln is nowhere near what Beth will get.
They will get $40-50 mln at max with all their spendings, and only if they spoke the truth about 4.7 mln copies. It is a very bold claim and I refuse to believe that it is true. Even EA ships much less copies of their popcorn hits in such short period of time. And Beth to EA is like a third-world shithole to USA.
Also $300 mln is nowhere near what Beth will get.
They will get $40-50 mln at max with all their spendings, and only if they spoke the truth about 4.7 mln copies. It is a very bold claim and I refuse to believe that it is true. Even EA ships much less copies of their popcorn hits in such short period of time. And Beth to EA is like a third-world shithole to USA.
skyway said:
That was the funny thing about Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance. Interplay was bragging about how many millions they shipped, but the game only sold about 300k copies across all platforms. So yeah, there's a huge difference between copies shipped and copies sold. Oh well!
elander_
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I wouldn't be surprised if Fallout 3 actually sold that much. Mainstream gamers these days don't give a shit if they are playing a crpg or whatever. The only thing they care about is to shoot stuff and see it go boom in funny ways, have a relatively good story (as much as illiterates who never read a good book consider a good story) and collect shinny stuff, while exploring an open environment. In that regard Fallout 3 succeeded and actually improved the genre (whatever that genre is). Compared to all the crpg crap that console players get in their XBRICK this game shines. Compared to it's PC legacy this game is an half-assed crpg which would get a score of 6 or 7 if it was reviewed 10 years ago.
Kingston
Arcane
I thought the "units shipped" part was pretty obvious. All this tells us is what kind of money they are expecting to make.
fizzelopeguss
Arcane
Skyway's self destructing again.
I'm loving Fallout 3. Probably GOTY if it doesn't get surpassed by SoZ.
I'm also playing Fallout 1 and ToEE again. Yes, I also enjoy these "backward old skool" games immensily, what a fucking heretic I must be....
Fallout 1 love + Fallout 3 love = RPG Codex explodes?
I'm also playing Fallout 1 and ToEE again. Yes, I also enjoy these "backward old skool" games immensily, what a fucking heretic I must be....
Fallout 1 love + Fallout 3 love = RPG Codex explodes?
MetalCraze
Arcane
Morgoth said:
That is just sad. The gaming standards fell so low that even uninspired shit like FO3, which can be easily surpassed by any game from more or less talented dev studio, can be considered GOTY by a Codexer no less.
Skyway - last stand of the Codex 
elander_
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Kingston said:
I know, what i'm saying is that it wouldn't be any surprise if they sold as much. I see no reason not to. People don't care about it's Fallout legacy and the press actually sees the changes as progressive to the series.
Morgoth said:
Man it's okay you enjoy playing Fallout 3, really. Don't get so butt hurt by Codex elitism but avoid using Fallout 1 and Fallout 3 on the same sentence. Can we have some standards on this place?
Uninspired shit.... Go try out Red Alert 3 then you know what uninspired shit really is. Fallout 3 may not be everyone's cup of tea, but at least the Bethesdians showed some effort to make it enjoyable.skyway said:
And before you throw shit at me: This is my first Bethesda game I've played. Never touched Morrowind or Oblivion, didn't even had the motivation for trying out before buying. Shiny Bloom and fatfaces ain't my idea of good fantasy, but Fallout 3 is nonetheless a very good game. Maybe, but just maybe I'm giving Beth the benefit of doubt to have TES5 on my radar now.
It's kinda funny that skyway is trying to be the "last defender of the hivemind opinion", now that many people in the Codex like Fallout 3.
elander_
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Fallout 3 is an uninspired game. What inspiration do you see in it? VATS? First-person shooter/role-playing? A sandbox game similar to Ultima VII but with cool first-person graphics? Oh wait graphics aren't that cool or next-gen but they still look pretty enough. You get more than 2 dialog choices and they use skill checks in dialogs?
Come on dude, compared to Fallout 3 dialogs NWN is a masterpiece with skill checks and c&c. What you are saying is that Fallout 3 does the minimum expected from an acceptable crpg. Then perhaps you should call it an acceptable crpg an not an not an inspired game.
Come on dude, compared to Fallout 3 dialogs NWN is a masterpiece with skill checks and c&c. What you are saying is that Fallout 3 does the minimum expected from an acceptable crpg. Then perhaps you should call it an acceptable crpg an not an not an inspired game.
MetalCraze
Arcane
JarlFrank said:
The only reason why many people in the Codex like Fallout 3 is because they didn't have a fairly decent RPG for so long that anything having minimum of things needed for the game to be called RPG, no matter the quality, will make those Codexers extatic.
Elander pointed at NWN - and NWN was considered a bad and uninspired RPG back then - while having logical stat checks, proper (though few) consequences and nonlinearity and a normal non-dumbed down character system compared to the poor execution of that in F3 - and F3 is a very good game now while being worse even than NWN? Just wtf has happened to you people?
Well if you feel like Fallout 3 is a fukken failure, just try to deceive your mind. Take a piece of paper, pen, and then slowly write down "Fallout 3 doesn't exist. It never was made. I just ignore all people that pretend playing a game called Fallout 3". If you truly believe into the Fallout legacy, write these sentences 1000 times, then play F1, then write down the sentences 1000 times again, then play F2, then write them again. After that, you shouldn't really care about any of that shit anymore. You'll probably fall dead, and your computer monitor will display "Game Over!"elander_ said:
Morgoth said:
You're so blunt, Roxor. I tried to explain it the gentle way. The Codexian way.
MetalCraze
Arcane
The Codexian way is about calling someone a moron.
Also it isn't about Fallout series. It's about Fallout3 being a poor RPG and a poor shooter as a standalone game. I even didn't try to compare it to some worthy game in that post, let alone to something of a Fallout1/2 quality.
Also it isn't about Fallout series. It's about Fallout3 being a poor RPG and a poor shooter as a standalone game. I even didn't try to compare it to some worthy game in that post, let alone to something of a Fallout1/2 quality.
Elwro
Arcane
BTW, the dialogue in F3 is definitely not stellar (and sometimes plainly bad), but from what I've seen up to now it is definitely better than the uniform blandness of NWN's dialogue.
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