Game News 4D10 Risen 2 Will Be Using Steam

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

I had a nice LOL at this:

Comfort: The protection has to add value to the player aside to its protective behaviour.

What bloody value does a DRM system add to the player? It only takes things away. Like the ability to re-sell the games. And quick start-up times.

Achiements, if yo ucare about that shit, cloud saving for both setting and save games, and having your game bounded to an account on top of your retail copy.

Steam is good, if you aren't an hysterical, paranoid, whiny bitch.
And it couldn't be worse than TAGES even trying, so there's really no need to cry about.

For those who "Now I'm not buying this game", well, it's the usual bullshit, they weren't going to buy it anyway.
Let's face it, it's just people looking for excuse.

 

[Jack]

Steam is good, if you aren't an hysterical, paranoid, whiny bitch.
And it couldn't be worse than TAGES even trying, so there's really no need to cry about.

For those who "Now I'm not buying this game", well, it's the usual bullshit, they weren't going to buy it anyway.
Let's face it, it's just people looking for excuse.

:/
I disagree, people who value ease of access and their privacy might it might just be enough to put them off their purchase. It is enough for me, I've bought PB's every game until now, but I just cannot support steam.
It's a very restrictive distribution platform that I won't use given the choice, and now I'm voting with my wallet. How is this strange at all?

 

[LordDenton]

they weren't going to buy it anyway. Let's face it, it's just people looking for excuse.

Ah yes, because you either like to gobble Gabe's cock, or you're a pirate. Amazing logic there bro.

No, Steam is not "bounded to an account on top of your retail copy". It's just bounded to an account. Your retail copy is a useless coaster. Remember: you can play the game without the retail copy, but you cannot play it without Steam. Like I said, useless coaster.

I really couldn't give a shit about Steam's supposed benefits.

Unlimited downloading = big deal, ThePirateBay had that before Steam and for free, so it's not a real benefit. I don't buy games to download them. I want to use the physical media.
Achievements = no thanks. I'm not an ADD stricken retard.
Friends list = I want to play games, not chat with people. If I want to chat, there are gazillions of communication programs out there.
Cloud saving = really really really couldn't give a shit about this one. If you use backup software like you should be using, losing saves becomes a non-issue.
Game locked to an account = how is that a benefit? Did Gabe shove his cock so deep up your asshole that you can't even think straight anymore?

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

they weren't going to buy it anyway. Let's face it, it's just people looking for excuse.

Game locked to an account = how is that a benefit?

I don't have to care anymore in my whole life about the integrity of my copy, for instance.

Yeah, it's bounded to an account. So? What then? You can't rustle up five fucking dollars selling it?
Who cares? It's a PC game, they cost like 10 bucks three months after release anyway.
Who the fuck are you, Oliver Twist?

 

[Excidium]

I don't mind Steam because I only buy games during the season sales. I can endure that shitty launcher when I'm paying like $2.50 for a game.

 

[Metro]

Wonder how many pages of Steam QQ this thread will muster.

 

[Excidium]

Probably none, since the people complaining don't have a steam account!

 

[GarfunkeL]

Wasn't going to play this anyway, so personally not a big loss. However, annoying how so many developers seem to happily jump into Steam.

 

[DalekFlay]

Steam does a good job of keeping the game uncracked until it releases

Lies. I've seen scene releases of games before their release, many times, and have even downloaded some.

Good job does not equal perfection.

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

I don't have to care anymore in my whole life about the integrity of my copy, for instance.

You silly young fool. You obviously haven't seen almost every software company go bankrupt over time as I have. Your whole life! Indeed. Planning on doing a Cobain are we? Otherwise, don't be terribly surprised if Steam comes atumbling down one day.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Steam does a good job of keeping the game uncracked until it releases

Lies. I've seen scene releases of games before their release, many times, and have even downloaded some.

Good job does not equal perfection.

Anyway it's complete bullshit. there's no record of one single Steamwork-based game breaking the day 0 release so far.

I don't have to care anymore in my whole life about the integrity of my copy, for instance.

You silly young fool. You obviously haven't seen almost every software company go bankrupt over time as I have. Your whole life! Indeed. Planning on doing a Cobain are we? Otherwise, don't be terribly surprised if Steam comes atumbling down one day.

Woah, that's a scary thought. Except there are probably more chances to see the whole Internet collapsing for some apocalyptic disaster than Valve running out of business in the next years.

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

Woah, that's a scary thought. Except there are probably more chances to see the whole Internet collapsing for some apocalyptic disaster than Valve running out of business in the next years.

Indeed! Commodore Business Machines go bankrupt? HAHAHAHAHA!!!! They have sold the most units of any computer in history! As if that would happen....

How many more examples would you like me to rattle off? Because there are much bigger ones out there. I assume you were alive during the Financial Crisis, so you should really have some perspective to work with. Then again, I suppose those companies and banks that went under were a lot bigger, and had lasted a lot longer, than Valve. I will try to think of something smaller for you.

And the internet is a medium, not a company.

As I said: Young fool.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Indeed! Commodore Business Machines go bankrupt? HAHAHAHAHA!!!! They have sold the most units of any computer in history! As if that would happen....

How many more examples would you like me to rattle off? Because there are much bigger ones out there. I assume you were alive during the Financial Crisis, so you should really have some perspective to work with. Then again, I suppose those companies and banks that went under were a lot bigger, and had lasted a lot longer, than Valve. I will try to think of something smaller for you.

As I said: Young fool.

I'm 33 years old, I lived through pretty much the whole "home computing age" so far and you are delusional or a liar, your pick.
Commodore decline was SO fucking obvious, everyone saw it coming, people talked about it for years before it actually happened.
Just a nostalgic Amiga fanboy or a flat liar could claim that they went out of business with a boom, surprising someone.

 

[Metro]

I don't have to care anymore in my whole life about the integrity of my copy, for instance.

You silly young fool. You obviously haven't seen almost every software company go bankrupt over time as I have. Your whole life! Indeed. Planning on doing a Cobain are we? Otherwise, don't be terribly surprised if Steam comes atumbling down one day.

And when it does there's about a 99% chance any and all games that were available on Steam will be available on the internet via whatever torrent.

 

[lisac2k]

I don't have to care anymore in my whole life about the integrity of my copy, for instance.

You silly young fool. You obviously haven't seen almost every software company go bankrupt over time as I have. Your whole life! Indeed. Planning on doing a Cobain are we? Otherwise, don't be terribly surprised if Steam comes atumbling down one day.

And when it does there's about a 99% chance any and all games that were available on Steam will be available on the internet via whatever torrent.

I thought they are already..!?

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

I thought they are already..!?

Of course they are, but what are we arguing about now?
I don't buy my games cause I'm forced to. I buy games cause I think they are good enough to deserve money.
Otherwise I could easily pirate everything isn't a multiplayer focused game. And even a large share of those ones, actually.

 

[LordDenton]

And when it does there's about a 99% chance any and all games that were available on Steam will be available on the internet via whatever torrent.

Well, if dealing with Steam results in the user acquiring the games from less than legal sites, then why bother with Steam in the first place? Just get it from TPB now.

Again, if you wanna use Steam, that's fine. Buy it on Steam. I just want publishers not to infect physical copies with it.

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

I'm 33 years old, I lived through pretty much the whole "home computing age" so far and you are delusional or a liar, your pick.
Commodore decline was SO fucking obvious, everyone saw it coming, people talked about it for years before it actually happened.
Just a nostalgic Amiga fanboy or a flat liar could claim that they went out of business with a boom, surprising someone.

I suppose Bear Stearns and all the other giant businesses that went belly up were also 'On the cards'?

You missed the point entirely. Nothing is impervious to destruction, so making idiotic comments like "Nothing will happen in my whole life to Steam!" is pure lunacy. Even if you see it coming, what will you do? Get a refund from Steam?

Oh, I know, you will pirate all your..er...Steams rented game like Metrosexual above. The irony.

I just want publishers not to infect physical copies with it.

In a nutshell, this is all I want as well. Void of any online checking system actually.

 

[Excidium]

This is very entertaining.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

You missed the point entirely. Nothing is impervious to destruction, so making idiotic comments like "Nothing will happen in my whole life to Steam!" is pure lunacy. Even if you see it coming, what will you do? Get a refund from Steam?

No, you missed the point entirely. Who cares what happens in 30 years? When I say it's very unlikely to see Steam failing, I'm talking about a share of time relevant to my interest.
20 years from now I'm probably going to store all the fucking pre-2020 games in just one unit labeled "20 TB of abandonware downloaded in 10 minutes".
What is relevant to me is where Steam is now and where it will be five years from now at most. then we'll see.

Oh, I know, you will pirate all your..er...Steams rented game like Metrosexual above. The irony.

Yeah, what about you? What are you going to do with your melting DVD losing quality over years?
What if your house ends burned to the ground in a big fire? What if you lose your games moving to another home? What about your son writing over them with a goddamn screwdriver?
Are you protected from these eventualities? No, you aren't. And ironically I would be.
How is your situation better than mine?
My main concern should be Valve running out of business. Your... pretty much anything else.

 

[Shannow]

I had a nice LOL at this:

Comfort: The protection has to add value to the player aside to its protective behaviour.

What bloody value does a DRM system add to the player? It only takes things away. Like the ability to re-sell the games. And quick start-up times.

Achiements, if yo ucare about that shit, cloud saving for both setting and save games, and having your game bounded to an account on top of your retail copy.

ROFL. Those are all arguments against steam.

And it couldn't be worse than TAGES even trying, so there's really no need to cry about.

"Being buttfucked by your uncle isn't as bad as being raped by a stranger!" Yeah, whatever floats your boat.

For those who "Now I'm not buying this game", well, it's the usual bullshit, they weren't going to buy it anyway.
Let's face it, it's just people looking for excuse.

Only skyway and Volly are allowed to lie about what people will or will not buy. You need at least another 9000 dumb posts to be allowed to play in their league.

 

[made]

Isn't it amusing how steam fanboys will vigorously defend their right to take it up the ass?

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Isn't it amusing how steam fanboys will vigorously defend their right to take it up the ass?

Come on, there's no need to try so hard to act like the internet tough guy.
Honestly, it's more funny than intimidating.

 

[DwarvenFood]

How does anyone muster the energy to care about this

In two threads even.

 

[Gwendo]

Games are for kids. If you're afraid of loosing your STEAM account and therefore all your steam games, don't use STEAM. I'm not afraid of renting games there instead of actually buying. If I loose them, they're just games. It's very unlikely I'll replay a game, only real classics.

Also, I never buy at full price on steam. Either buy physically and add to steam or take advantage of the many sales and deals of the day/week.

I have almost 90 games on steam, I gave STEAM around 150€ for them.