Game News 4D10 Risen 2 Will Be Using Steam

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

As I said to commie - never seen steam download a fully patched game instead of just patching the existing one. As for turning off auto-patching - Game->properties->"keep this game up to date" = off. How hard can it be? Works for me.

Really?
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1920455.html
9 GB patches, exculsive feature of Steam, rejoice

To be honest that was up to CD Projekt idiotc decision to pack all datas in one single file.

Anyway, that's fixed now, cause Steam around a week ago announced a new update system which doesn't need to download an entire file, just what's changed from the old one.

 

[el Supremo]

As I said to commie - never seen steam download a fully patched game instead of just patching the existing one. As for turning off auto-patching - Game->properties->"keep this game up to date" = off. How hard can it be? Works for me.

Really?
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1920455.html
9 GB patches, exculsive feature of Steam, rejoice

To be honest that was up to CD Projekt idiotc decision to pack all datas in one single file.

But valve surly would not do such an idiotic thing to their own Portal 2. Oh, wait...
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1906807.html

Anyway, that's fixed now, cause Steam around a week ago announced a new update system which doesn't need to download an entire file, just what's changed from the old one.

And like hell it worked:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2012609.html
More Steam debacle.

Steam sabotages itself, it seems:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2021239.html
But I grant Valve one thing, there is no end of the line's guy on theirs forums.

Spamming links seems almost as enjoyable as spamming with shock porn

 

[WalterKinde]

Well this sucks, i was looking forward to Risen 2, i didnt pay much attention to the drm on the first game because i went straight to gamecopy world for the cracked exe after i installed it.

I really hate steam cause it means i dont really own the game now but i am renting it and depending on valve.

CDProjekt spoiled me with the witcher and witcher 2

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

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I wasn't really asking for your ineducate opinion.
I was stating a fact.

By the way TW2 1.3 on Steam does NOT update using Steam, but a CDPR tool.
These morons complaining with Valve don't know what they are talking about, pretty much like you.

Also, the new Steam update system is an announced feature, not yet implemented so far.

 

[el Supremo]

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I wasn't really asking for your ineducate opinion.
I was stating a fact.

By the way TW2 1.3 on Steam does NOT update using Steam, but a CDPR tool.
These morons complaining with Valve don't know what they are talking about, pretty much like you.

Also, the new Steam update system is an announced feature, not yet implemented so far.

Valve employee detected.

 

[Sceptic]

I love how the Steamtards* have to resort to all sorts of tactics, including but not limited to ad hominem, fabrications, strawmen, circular logic, the whole works, to defend their precious Steam and convince the world that DRM is a Good Thing and that all the issues people have with Steam and patching and so on are LIES ALL LIES, yet it is those who sit back and laugh at them who are "butthurt". How ironic.

I have to admit this thread has turned out to be far more amusing than I expected.

* Does not denate a user of Steam, but rather the fanboys that will defend it to death.

 

[someone else]

What if I die tomorrow? Can I still play games? Should I bury my game boxes and manuals together with me?

 

[Jack]

What if I die tomorrow? Can I still play games? Should I bury my game boxes and manuals together with me?

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

What if I die tomorrow? Can I still play games? Should I bury my game boxes and manuals together with me?

 

[Jezal_k23]

I like Steam, but it does have its flaws, of course. Forcing people to redownload their games, for whatever reason, is simply terrible.

I'm hoping the improvements to the download system (which have not been implemented yet as far as I am aware) can fix all this for good so that it may never happen again.

 

[Drakron]

Forcing people to redownload their games, for whatever reason, is simply terrible.

And a rape on your wallet if your ISP have a cap.

I dont have many Steam games, looking at New Vegas it seems the update is done by downloading Update.bsa and FalloutNV.esm.

But then again, New Vegas requires Steam, if its only at this point that Valve realized games they sell on Steam but were not designed as strickly Steam games have issues due to how patching is usually done ...

 

[SoupNazi]

ISPs still have FUP data cap somewhere? What kind of third world country do you live in, man? Australia?

 

[Drakron]

ISPs still have FUP data cap somewhere? What kind of third world country do you live in, man? Australia?

My ISP used to have a cap many years ago, its unlimited now but I know there are some ISP that still have a cap.

 

[Jasede]

Steam is useful to me because:

a) I rarely if ever play a game a second time. Hell, I barely if ever want to even finish most games these days. The games I do play over and over aren't on Steam - things like Death Smiles, Crimzon Clover, Mushihimesama Futari and so on.

I am simply content playing them once and then forgetting about them. I do not miss having a CD or the right to install it anywhere I please. I do miss classical boxes but believe that may be mostly nostalgia talking. Had it been more than nostalgia I wouldn't have had such an easy time throwing away my old games and boxes whenever I moved apartments, the same way I threw away all my Mickey Mouse magazines when I moved out to go to college what feels like a decade ago.

b) I have absolutely nothing illegal or worrying on my computer that I wouldn't be comfortable with Valve knowing. While I don't really believe Steam is "spyware" in the truest sense of the word, I have no problem with it transmitting such data as my hardware composition, my software usage or my genre preferences.

c) Steam games are convenient and cheap. Paying is extremely fast and comfortable, as is downloading.


Things that I am not as satisfied with:

1) The software selection is too small.
2) Steam supports amateur games too much, cashing in on (crappy) indie-games. This not only makes Valve look "noble" but also perpetuates the idea that shitty, badly made games are worth playing and even buying.
3) Sometimes, a Steam version of a game is not as stable as the real thing. (Deus Ex, for example.)
4) The software takes a lot of memory. Not problem with a modern computer, but I know many here don't have one.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

What a load of whining manchildren.

 

[chewie]

That's it then. I bought Risen 1, but I don't have Steam account and I won't have Steam account. I just won't physically remove it from an inventory.

 

[DalekFlay]

a) I rarely if ever play a game a second time.

The real bummer with all media becoming services is that most consumers think this way and therefore most companies don't worry about long-term compatibility and such. I remember when Microsoft gave up on Xbox backwards compatibility on the 360 they talked about how stats showed no one was playing those old games anyway. I would guess most people buy a game on Steam, play it, then forget about it.

For people like me who are VERY interested in old games and keeping them playable it's a scary thing that these companies are not at all focusing on that with newer games.

 

[Jasede]

Old games are still easily playable; emulators, DOSBOX, GOG, old consoles et cetera et cetera are all easily available.

But it's true that the older I get, the less I care to replay some old game. I haven't missed my boxed RoA copies (with the map & the original German 2CD version of RoA 2).

 

[Metro]

As technology improves so will the ability to emulate/play older titles on modern systems. I wouldn't worry about it. How many older games are simply unplayable on modern systems today? Not many.

 

[DalekFlay]

As technology improves so will the ability to emulate/play older titles on modern systems. I wouldn't worry about it. How many older games are simply unplayable on modern systems today? Not many.

Many from the Windows 3.1/95 days are. For example I could not get Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine running a month or so ago on Win7 no matter what I did. No one on the internet seemed to have set something up for it either.

While I have absolute faith that the big hits and cult classics will always be playable smaller games fall through the cracks. Losing the ability to play any game, no matter what it is, is sad to me. Imagine never being able to see a certain 80's comedy you grew up on and loved, even if it was never a hit.

 

[Smallpox]

You know, I just can't bring myself to care about this.