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Review Alpha Protocol Reviewed

Chateaubryan

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First feedbacks :

- Most missions seems to have 3-4 routes, Deus-Ex style.

- C&C's, baby. Some players plan on replaying the game to get the bigger picture.

- Intel provides much informations. A little too much to read, even.

- Stealth is Uber. One guy who played it said he did the first 4 missions without getting spotted. He didn't say wich difficulty he played on.

- Gunfights are hard. Unless you take 2 seconds to aim, you miss quite often.

- Timed choices = shit.
 

yes plz

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I was wondering when feedback from people would start to come out. I've seen a few people across a couple of different forums say they've had it for the past few days now; I'm surprised there's still no torrents out for it.
 
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One way to please both the storyfags and the challengefags would be to have a majority of game to be a training regime.
There would be no forced reloads, no "dying" unless in accidents, there would be a story and choices and consequences.
Being allowed into real combat would be a reward for good performance.
 

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Chateaubryan said:
First feedbacks :

- Most missions seems to have 3-4 routes, Deus-Ex style.

- C&C's, baby. Some players plan on replaying the game to get the bigger picture.

- Intel provides much informations. A little too much to read, even.

- Stealth is Uber. One guy who played it said he did the first 4 missions without getting spotted. He didn't say wich difficulty he played on.

- Gunfights are hard. Unless you take 2 seconds to aim, you miss quite often.

- Timed choices = shit.

I can hardly wait!
 

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Chateaubryan said:
First feedbacks :

- Most missions seems to have 3-4 routes, Deus-Ex style.

- C&C's, baby. Some players plan on replaying the game to get the bigger picture.

- Intel provides much informations. A little too much to read, even.

- Stealth is Uber. One guy who played it said he did the first 4 missions without getting spotted. He didn't say wich difficulty he played on.

- Gunfights are hard. Unless you take 2 seconds to aim, you miss quite often.

- Timed choices = shit.

Sounds nice. I knew the timed choices would be total bull, but I had no idea what to expect from the others. Hope you're right and it continues!
 

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Clockwork Knight said:
- Timed choices = shit.

What does this mean? They aren't really timed, thy are of poor quality, they ruin the enjoyment of a conversation, what?

I'm guessing he means that they are timed and that is shit.

It sounds good, but I still just have no interest in the setting at all so I fear I'll still have to pass trying it out for now. FYI.
 

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Clockwork Knight said:
- Timed choices = shit.

What does this mean? They aren't really timed, thy are of poor quality, they ruin the enjoyment of a conversation, what?

One should know that the guy who said this really doesn't like the game. There is another on the same thread who really likes it.
But those specific complaints about the timed-dialogs stem from the fact that the game is not dubbed in french, and he has to read the subtitles while trying to understand what the character says. It gets confusing.
As for the writing, the other guy really likes it.

One example of consequences to your actions given by one of the guy concerns the early game : if you're really good at the infiltration "tutorial", three characters will offer you a mission in the main hub, with different rewards : one provides you intelligence, another money, the last one simply makes you more popular with the one who asked for the mission.

yes plz said:
I was wondering when feedback from people would start to come out. I've seen a few people across a couple of different forums say they've had it for the past few days now; I'm surprised there's still no torrents out for it.

It's complicated. The game is out only in some retailers, and not on all platforms :lol: I found it in one retailer (on four in the same area) and they only had the PS3 version.
 

Chateaubryan

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Clockwork Knight said:
What does this mean? They aren't really timed, thy are of poor quality, they ruin the enjoyment of a conversation, what?

If you please apology, I don't speak the England very nice.
 

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Chateaubryan said:
- Gunfights are hard. Unless you take 2 seconds to aim, you miss quite often.

I think you mean " Gunfights are shit". Looks like they used that crap "best soldier evar cannot hit anything" system from ME1 instead of proper shooting mechanics from ME2.
 

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So, do you guys really prefer ME1 system or are you just being edgy for the sake of it?
 

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Hamster said:
So, do you guys really prefer ME1 system or are you just being edgy for the sake of it?
It's better than having no stats (ME2) or having stats only affect damage (so that you have to hit someone in the head 10 times to kill them).

Besides, taking time to aim to improve accuracy > random chance hitting no matter what.
 

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Hamster said:
So, do you guys really prefer ME1 system or are you just being edgy for the sake of it?

I haven't followed AP much, but from what he says there, it sounds more like a Deus Ex style "stay still and focus to get decent accuracy" than ME1's circle of randomness. If it's the latter, then yeah, I take back what I said.
 

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Clockwork Knight said:
Lol @ saying that having to take aim for two measly seconds is dumbing down and not proper shooting

How can you be sure that "2 seconds to aim" is an accurate description? You cannot judge such a small detail with such unreliable source. What important is that apparently people are reporting that combat is hard because they have problems hitting enemies. And since it's Obsidian we are dealing with here, a studio that always copies Bioware, and we know that ME1 was their model for AP, such reports raise a legit suspicion that they also copied shooting mechanics from ME1.
 

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Hamster said:
How can you be sure that "2 seconds to aim" is an accurate description? You cannot judge such a small detail with such unreliable source. What important is that apparently people are reporting that combat is hard because they have problems hitting enemies. And since it's Obsidian we are dealing with here, a studio that always copies Bioware, and we know that ME1 was their model for AP, such reports raise a legit suspicion that they also copied shooting mechanics from ME1.
So I have the choice between an unreliable source and totally reliable hypothesizing by a Russian. I wonder which source I would trust for information.
 

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You should look up what "suspicion" means in a dictionary, cause it does not mean "100% reliable fact" as you seem to believe.

If you cannot deal with the fact that not everybody believes AP will be the best game evar before playing it, maybe migrating to a more mainstream gaming forums is the solution?
 

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You should look up what "suspicion" means in a dictionary, cause it does not mean "100% reliable fact" as you seem to believe.
You should look up what "sarcasm" means in a dictionary.

Again, if I have one "unreliable source" and no other objective source, who do I turn to for information?


If you cannot deal with the fact that not everybody believes AP will be the best game evar before playing it, maybe migrating to a more mainstream gaming forums is the solution?
Obviously if I don't suspect one aspect of the game is shit I think the whole game is the best game evar.
 

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Mangoose said:
You should look up what "suspicion" means in a dictionary, cause it does not mean "100% reliable fact" as you seem to believe.
You should look up what "sarcasm" means in a dictionary.
You should look up "it was sarcasm/joke" in various lists of worst arguments in the internet.

Obviously if I don't suspect one aspect of the game is shit I think the whole game is the best game evar.

If you are willing to imediately jump in to defend the game you haven't played just because someone dares to suspect that it have flaws it definetely smells of fanboyism.
 

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god damn how i hate this console shit full of retard friendly icons, enemy indicators and shit
 

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