Incline Amiga buying recommendation

[Dr. West]

Holy hell do I NEED a flickerfixer? Shits expensive!

EDIT: composite output RGB via SCART adapter should be enough, although it's probably not the best solution quality-wise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDvv5BD_jOk AHHH WHAT'S THIS MESS AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THAT CHAOS ENGINE BOX ON THAT FUCKING PILE. Need to cry now.

Fuck SCART, I'll roll my own S-VIDEO output

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

if you want to squeeze most from an amiga, you need a 4000/040. 060 is faster but has more compatibility issues.
if you want max compatibility, you need to buy also a 500 with both kickstarts 1.2 and 1.3, or a 2000 with same kickstarts for more horsepower*, because disabling cache and downgrading chipset won't always work, there will always be that game or two which refuses to work.

*: thinking about it... an a2000 with 1.2 ks shouldn't exist iirc.

 

[Luzur]

well, you seem to have gotten enough help already.

 

[Dr. West]

MadMaxHellfire: thanks for the competent response, but I'm hell-bent on an A1200 now. Gotta keep focused. It was also my dream machine before switching to PC. And from what I've seen, all important titles (to me) from back then seem to have a WHDLoad patch. Plus some AGA stuff I could not play. Maybe I'll set up a "power" system later. From what I've read so far, I need extra RAM for WHDLoad and no accelerator, correct? Found this, hope it doesn't shoot through the roof. Bet it will.

Yeah, thanks for the help @ all. Less confusion on my side now, too.

EDIT: Amibay seems to have much more reasonable offers.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

if you have to buy an aga machine, just get a 4000. 1200 can't even be expanded properly.

 

[Jaesun]

Yes. Get a 4000.

 

[Blaine]

I'm still confused as fuck. The path to an open for-sale page featuring a 4000 CPU of some description (as in the complete box) is not at all clear.

Oh well, I'll just put some Effort™ into it next weekend.

 

[Haba]

Guys guys guys. Give me a TAC-2. Or something similar to that.

I must HAS

 

[Dr. West]

Nostalgia guys, I just ... can't get an A4000. It reminds me too much of desktop PCs. Also: the prices are astronomical and this is by far not the only system I'm planning to get.

Ordered an Arduino Duo with USB host shield and an USB Hub. Can't wait to fool around with it.

 

[CorpseZeb]

Also, if we speaking about A1200 using with the modern equipment, how about Indivision AGA MK2 (http://www.icomp.de/home/indexe.htm). Because modern LCD's don't mix really well with the old analog scart/svideo/RGB inputs. Users reviews of this apparatus are really... enthusiastic. It is a pricey thingy, but... (real hardware) retro is a pricey hobby after all.

 

[Dr. West]

Will see ... 149,90€ is affordable. This also sounds interesting:

The NEW PAL/NTSC RGB adapter from www.amigamaniac.com will give you a rock solid, crystal clear S-Video picture from your Amiga. It plugs into any Amiga with a video port (except for the CD32 which doesn't have a video port but has S-Video built in). It has a switch on it to select if NTSC or PAL, so it's compatible with any Amiga from around the world!

Say goodbye to dot crawl, colour rolling, ghosting and blurry pixels!

I'ts also kinda what I had planned. Don't know if the adapter does any processing to the signal. Wanted to try to plug it into my Denon using the S-VIDEO input and see what it makes of it.

 

[CorpseZeb]

Well, it is much cheaper, but it is not a flickerfixer (so you can't connect your Amiga to the DVI port directly). With s-video option, quality of image is rather depending on internal signal processing/conversion of your monitor or TV, than an interface alone. (Also, RBG to S-video, is a sort of signal downgrade, but not that much, many (but not all) TV sets internally converts RGB to the s-video, so feeding them with the s-video, gives a better image quality, than feeding them with RGB). Indivision is a different beast, that gives you a best possible image quality on the modern monitors, feeding them with the digital, "pure" signal.).

 

[Dr. West]

Yeah, I hope this solution is good enough (for what it is). I also don't need a DVI connection, the goal is to connect to a projector via the Denon (which will switch between devices).

 

[Luzur]

Guys guys guys. Give me a TAC-2. Or something similar to that.

I must HAS

http://www.tradera.com/joystick-suncom-tac-2-retro--auktion_120311_182326364

 

[Haba]

Guys guys guys. Give me a TAC-2. Or something similar to that.

I must HAS

http://www.tradera.com/joystick-suncom-tac-2-retro--auktion_120311_182326364

Hahaha. I sees some traditional marks of use

 

[Dr. West]

Bite-marks?

 

[Blaine]

That does like a human bite mark, canines and all, but it's too small for an adult (it's not even as wide as one of those buttons) and I don't think a toddler could create such a clean and deep mark in ruggedized plastic.

Pet rhesus monkey? Or thrown against the wall, and just a coincidence?

Most likely, it had some shit piled on top of it in storage.

 

[CorpseZeb]

... or, just, these marks can be from soldering (re-, or installing a new ones) microswitches... A fire button, probably.

 

[Blaine]

... or, just, these marks can be from soldering (re-, or installing a new ones) microswitches... A fire button, probably.

Yeah, I was thinking from the smoothness that it could be melting, too. I know how to solder and have done quite a bit of it....

This doesn't matter at all.

 

[Haba]

Most probably caused by raging after failing for the 100th time in some sadistic French game (there are more marks on the other side as well).

 

[Absalom]

What about game recommendations? Get Moonstone; lp it here

 

[Mortmal]

Everything is pretty much covered already, id say dont forget the CRT monitor too, LCD wont work really good with it although you can plug the amiga on pretty much everything. For true nostalgia feelings get a 1084s monitor, mine is still working:

 

[Mortmal]

 

[Flanged]

Reminds me I've got an old A1200 and games in the cupboard. Bet it still works too.

One day soon I must give it life again.

Stunt Car Racer and Robocop 2 are stuck in my head from that era, though they weren't the best games out by any means.

 

[Fowyr]

... or, just, these marks can be from soldering

Definitely solder marks. When you put soldering iron directly on the tabe without any stand, sometimes it turns around and wreaks havoc.

I have a question for you, Codex.
My pal recently got interest in Amiga and started buying various parts over eBay for assembling.
Amigas were completely non-existant here, so he has a two very simple questions.

1) Can you use standard 5.25" or 3.5" FDD with Amiga or you need set jumpers/solder new terminator resistors like in old times of tinkering with ZX-Spectrums?

2) Sometimes accelerators for Amiga 2000 are sold.
a2620
http://i44.tinypic.com/20f21au.jpg
GVP G-Force 030 Impact Series II 40MHz accelerator w/ SCSI & RAM
http://i39.tinypic.com/s6r788.jpg

Can you use them with A3000 and A4000? And explain why if it's non possible. Apparently, they completely replace CPU, right?