Excommunicator said:They keep grasping at irrelevant arguments. It is an effort of futility
Mrowak said:Excommunicator said:They keep grasping at irrelevant arguments. It is an effort of futility
And you were the one saying you want a serious discussion. Tell me, what arguments exactly have you used so far? Apart from 'WAAAH ANIME FAGGITS ARE ANIMU' I don't get any message from your posts.
Excommunicator said:Whether Rance is an RPG - or even a good game - or not, is completely irrelevant.
The moment you take the artwork out of the game and put them on a website you lose all connection to the game. Now it is anime artwork - nothing more, nothing less.
Most people will come onto this site and look at the avatars and think "This is anime art" followed by either "That looks like shit, why does the Prestigious Codex have avatars that look like that?" (perfectly reasonable) or "I like watching anime therefore I might like to use these here" (absolutely the wrong attitude in the Codex). As you can surely see from such a situation, Rance itself will rarely come into this consideration (truly, even most Codexers would not have heard anything of Rance before coming here), and that should be enough to show you the effect of the separation of the art from the game. It is very simple.
The artwork is clearly out of place, and the simple fact that many people immediately react with "ugh that looks like fucking crap" should be enough to tell you that there is something going on here. People can't see what kind of a game it belongs to unless they already know, and that is because all they can see is plain old crappy anime artwork. Artwork that is completely out of place. Artwork that pays no heed to its quality in the eyes of the members. Artwork that by itself is almost universally regarded as bad.
Seeing the sympathisers come up with ridiculous self-righteous arguments like "we paid money, therefore are better than you" or "we are the most literate on this site therefore we are right on this issue", shows how the emotionality from your side of the argument is preventing you from seeing what this discussion is about.
You need to look at the avatars in isolation of what they are. There is no game connected to them. You cannot click on them and play Rance. They are artwork.
And they are judged solely by that fact. Now tell me if you like them.
wait, are you talking about the rance avatars or those crappy low-poly anachronox or deus-ex avatars, that pixelated fugly arcanum and fallout ingame shit, which is especially bad in the case of arcanum, the shitty and badly edited avernum 3 avatars, the wannabe anime stuff from battle for wesnoth, that civ3 poser crap with retarded facial expressions, all those bland and unrecognizable daggerfal portraits, the fucking sims bubbles (i mean, seriously, wtf..), the beyond retarded warhammer 40k and fantasy shit, or all those countless others crappy and stupid avatars we have that have no merit other than reminding you of the games they are from?Excommunicator said:Artwork that pays no heed to its quality in the eyes of the members. Artwork that by itself is almost universally regarded as bad.
I don't even know what you guys are talking about.+Show / Hide Show/Hide :: Click here to show/hide the hidden post made by Excommunicator.
Excommunicator said:Butthurt response #100583
your whole argument is just a trite wall-of-text version of "remove something because i don't like it", which happens to be a shitty argument without merit and quite close to whining.Excommunicator said:I am using an argument that can be applied to things beyond the Rance avatars and I am quite prepared to see other shit avatars gone as well. The tiny pixellated fallout ones are shit too.
Stopped reading right there.Excommunicator said:Whether Rance is an RPG - or even a good game - or not, is completely irrelevant.
Yeah, like argument "The people who donated for these avatars have done more for the community by donating than the people who bitch and whine about decline." was much more of higher levelPOOPOO MCBUMFACE said:See? Between you and Reject, you put some effort into level-headed arguments, and the only responses you get are "lol 2010 Codex"
Excommunicator said:What's your point? That avatar is shit and ridiculous too. The difference is we didn't have it as DLC.
It should still be gone.
SuicideBunny said:wait, are you talking about the rance avatars or those crappy low-poly anachronox or deus-ex avatars, that pixelated fugly arcanum and fallout ingame shit, which is especially bad in the case of arcanum, the shitty and badly edited avernum 3 avatars, the wannabe anime stuff from battle for wesnoth, that civ3 poser crap with retarded facial expressions, all those bland and unrecognizable daggerfal portraits, the fucking sims bubbles (i mean, seriously, wtf..), the beyond retarded warhammer 40k and fantasy shit, or all those countless others crappy and stupid avatars we have that have no merit other than reminding you of the games they are from?Excommunicator said:Artwork that pays no heed to its quality in the eyes of the members. Artwork that by itself is almost universally regarded as bad.