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Assload of new OB-screens + videos courtesy of the Germans

Tintin

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All of the specs on the computer they're playing on are below the reccomended requirements (except for ram). I think it's to be expected that it will not look like Bethesda's hype or screenshots make it look. Running Morrowind below the reccomended would also make it look much, much worse then it already is.

I didn't check that site too much, but do they post anywhere what they have turned on/off?
 

dongle

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Tintin said:
I didn't check that site too much, but do they post anywhere what they have turned on/off?
Yes, they say highest detail right on the shot, albeit in German.

I still maintain it is not related to the distance from the player, or the angle of view. We see it happening at all distances and view angles in the linked shots. That leads me to believe it’s not an Anisotropic filtering deal. Something funky is happening, what I don’t know.

Can anyone find a shot of the -same- piece of ground, one where it’s happening, and one not? That would tell us whether it’s a filtering/LOD deal or not for sure.
 

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Yes, they say highest detail right on the shot, albeit in German.

What do you mean higest detail? They were able to get highest level of graphics using a system under the reccomended requirements? Or do you just mean highest resolution.
 

dongle

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Long as you’ve got a DX9c/Shader Model 3 compatible card a screenshot won’t look noticeably different. You may be getting 5FPS and be unable to do anything on a low-end box, but it’ll fine for taking screenshots.

Man I’ll be glad when everyone has the game and stops this shouting “unoptimized” at every turn. Gets a little old.
 

Tintin

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Long as you’ve got a DX9c/Shader Model 3 compatible card a screenshot won’t look noticeably different. You may be getting 5FPS and be unable to do anything on a low-end box, but it’ll fine for taking screenshots.

But they said they were running the game with options for a reasonable FPS.

And I don't think a Radeon 9800 is a shader model 3 compatible card
 

Makus

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dongle said:
Yes, they say highest detail right on the shot, albeit in German.
Highest detail on their rig, isn't highest detail of the game...
 

Makus

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fizzelopeguss said:
shader model 3 is a performance upgrade from sm2.0, not image quality.
Not exactly... It can use a lot more complicated shaders, but the truth is, that new games do not use full potential of SM 2.0...
 

Irwanday01

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all of the illegal pics I have are dated 3E 433, The are the russian pics.

So the russian version of the game is getting a German translation?Makes sense.


What the fuck are you talking about, I'm talking about the russian shots from months ago. They are dated 3E 433.

leyawiinmap01.jpg
 

dongle

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Jesus people, complicated shader support? It’s a fucking HILL.

Game doesn’t look like the Bethesda promo “screenshots”, give it up.
 

dongle

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Tintin said:
But they said they were running the game with options for a reasonable FPS.
Those screenshots we link above with the two versions of the same scene? Those are done specifically to show the difference between maxed out settings and medium ones. Hills look blurry on both. Only difference I can see is a few less bushes in the maxed out versions.
 

Tintin

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It can't be maxed out settings, though, because Bethesda released the video of the hills and there is no ultra-blurry hills in the background. So unless Bethesda implemented a better system for the video and then....uh...removed them for the final game, it doesn't make sense that the maxed out version looks like that.
 

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Venom said:
merry andrew said:
Oh dear the game is sluggish in those videos. Reminds me of when I first got Morrowind... those were the days.
Actually, it's stated that the videos are laggy because the video card used to take them is shitty.
Sorry, I didn't know a Radeon 9800 was shitty.
 

sanibonani

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LOL

http://www.justgamers.de/kmx/modul_cms/ ... eich-2.jpg

Looks like Magic Carpet, circa 1994.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/magic ... otId,2292/

Seriously though, I do think those screenshots are far from the maximum settings. I remember what Morrowind looked like without DX8 support, and I think we are seeing the equivalent here. Hardly a reliable source either - none of the other reviewers got a final pre-release copy, they were given a few days to play it at Bethsoft. This could just be an act of wanton cruelty by the Germans (anyone watch American Dad, "I'm German - it's what we do!")

Probably best not to argue for now, I'll have the damn thing in a few hours - I've got a decent rig with an x1800, so I'll post some shots with all the candy.
 

The Internets

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Irwanday01 said:
What the fuck are you talking about, I'm talking about the russian shots from months ago. They are dated 3E 433.

Wow. What the 'fuck' I meant was the russian shots would presumably be for a russian translation, so the German text shown in these new pictures would have me believe they are not from that batch. Why would a Russian company be working on a German translation? It's not impossible of course, but not likely.

As far as the date, yeah, and? I have no idea what "3e" even means but unless it means "a particular day" it doesn't mean the pictures are from the same source.
 

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sanibonani said:
Seriously though, I do think those screenshots are far from the maximum settings. I remember what Morrowind looked like without DX8 support, and I think we are seeing the equivalent here. Hardly a reliable source either - none of the other reviewers got a final pre-release copy, they were given a few days to play it at Bethsoft. This could just be an act of wanton cruelty by the Germans.
Vindictive un-optimized settings! That’s a new one.

Better get these in while the getting’s good folks. Let's give this stupid fanboy excuse shit a rousing sendoff!
 

Venom

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dongle said:
sanibonani said:
Seriously though, I do think those screenshots are far from the maximum settings. I remember what Morrowind looked like without DX8 support, and I think we are seeing the equivalent here. Hardly a reliable source either - none of the other reviewers got a final pre-release copy, they were given a few days to play it at Bethsoft. This could just be an act of wanton cruelty by the Germans.
Vindictive un-optimized settings! That’s a new one.

Better get these in while the getting’s good folks. Let's give this stupid fanboy excuse shit a rousing sendoff!
Let's be honest here. Look at the recent videos....They are in-game and look a few generations better then these screenshots.

It's not like the game always look this shitty.

It does look like shit on normal PCs though. But it looks much better on super PCs/consoles.
 

The Internets

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Venom said:
Let's be honest here. Look at the recent videos....They are in-game and look a few generations better then these screenshots.

Wouldn't that be nice.
obx29B.jpg


An "official" screen shot like that pretty much seals the deal.

That LOD is so nasty it deserves it's own name. "Vaso-Vision" "Barbra-WaltersCam", or perhaps, "Looks Like Shit".

ps...The sad part is from a distance it starts to look better, but considering the hardware you'd think they could pull off something better than that.
 

Venom

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Okay I understand you hate the game, but when you go as far as ignoring actual in game videos, it's just ignoring any positive things about the game.

The combat is alot better then Morrowind ( just look at the 2 days video) and the quests are actually deep, got multiple ways to do them unlike Morrowind.

It's not being critical when you ignore everything a game offer and just concentrate on shitty screenshots.

Don't graphics not matter anyway?

I can admit the game is a fucking downgrade as an RPG:

No spears, levitation, mark and recall, less skills.

But some people here can't admit the good things the game have. It's gonna be a mediocre RPG but one hell of a fantasy game.
 

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