autoban for Prosper, Chefe and Drog alts

[Sceptic]

so what do you say about these rumours flying around that you are actually wyrmlord, sceptic?

 

[SCO]

whose alt was terror teats?

Drog i think.

 

[SCO]

so what do you say about these rumours flying around that you are actually wyrmlord, sceptic?

This is impossible. Wyrmlord wouldn't have resisted posting a Austrian Economics post by now.

 

[Sceptic]

Needs arise from ou drives and the drives are imbedded in our nature. An imperfect satisfaction of needs leads to the stunting of our nature. Failure to satisfy them brings about our destruction. But to satisfy our needs is to live and prosper. Thus the attempt to provide for the satisfaction of our needs is synonymous with the attempt to provide for our lives and well-being. It is the most important of all human endeavors, since it is the prerequisite and foundation of all others.

In practice, the concern of men for the satisfaction of their needs is expressed as an attempt to attain command of all the things on which the satisfaction of their needs depends. If a person has command of all the consumption goods necessary to satisfy his needs, their actual satisfaction depends only on his will. We may thus consider his objective as having been attained when he is in possession of these goods, since his life and well-being are then in his own hands. The quantities of consumption goods a person must have to satisfy his needs may be termed his requirements. The concern of men for the maintenance of their lives and well-being becomes, therefore, an attempt to provide themselves with their requirements.

But if men were concerned about providing themselves with their requirements for goods only when they experienced an immediate need of them, the satisfaction of their needs, and hence their lives and well-being, would be very inadequately assured.

If we suppose the inhabitants of a country to be entirely without stocks of foodstuffs and clothing at the beginning of winter, there can be no doubt that the majority of them would be unable to save themselves from destruction, even by the most desperate efforts directed to the satisfaction of their needs. But the further civilization advances, and the more men come to depend upon procuring the goods necessary for the satisfaction of their needs by a long process of production, the more compelling becomes the necessity of arranging in advance for the satisfaction of their needs—that is, of providing their requirements for future time periods.

Even an Australian savage does not postpone hunting until he actually experiences hunger. Nor does he postpone building his shelter until inclement weather has begun and he is already exposed to its harmful effects. But men in civilized societies alone among economizing individuals plan for the satisfaction of their needs, not for a short period only, but for much longer periods of time. Civilized men strive to ensure the satisfaction of their needs for many years to come. Indeed, they not only plan for their entire lives, but as a rule, extend their plans still further in their concern that even their descendants shall not lack means for the satisfaction of their needs.

Wherever we turn among civilized peoples we find a system of large-scale advance provision for the satisfaction of human needs. When we are still wearing our heavy clothes for protection against the cold of winter, not only are ready-made spring clothes already on the way to retail stores, but in factories light cloths are being woven which we will wear next summer, while yarns are being spun for the heavy clothing we will use the following winter. When we fall ill we need the services of a physician. In legal disputes we require the advice of a lawyer. But it would be much too late, for a person in either contingency to meet his need, if he should only then attempt to acquire the medical or legal knowledge and skills himself, or attempt to arrange the special training of other persons for his service, even though he might possess the necessary means. In civilized countries, the needs of society for these and similar services are provided for in good time, since experienced and proven men, having prepared themselves for their professions many years ago, and having since collected rich experiences from their practices, place their services at the disposal of society. And while we enjoy the fruits of the foresight of past times in this way, many men are being trained in our universities to meet the needs of society for similar services in the future.

The concern of men for the satisfaction of theirs needs thus becomes an attempt to provide in advance for meeting their requirements in the future, and we shall therefore call a person’s requirements those quantities of goods that are necessary to satisfy his needs within the time period covered by his plans.

There are two kinds of knowledge that men must possess as a prerequisite for any successful attempt to provide in advance for the satisfaction of their needs. They must become clear: (a) about their requirements—that is, about the quantities of goods they will need to satisfy their needs during the time period over which their plans extend, and (b) about the quantities of goods at their disposal for the purpose of meeting these requirements.

All provident activity directed to the satisfaction of human needs is based on knowledge of these two classes of quantities. Lacking knowledge of the first, the activity of men would be conducted blindly, for they would be ignorant of their objective. Lacking knowledge of the second, their activity would be planless, for they would have no conception of the available means.

In what follows, it will first be shown how men arrive at a knowledge of their requirements for future time periods; it will then be shown how they estimate the quantities of goods that will be at their disposal during these time periods; and finally a description will be given of the activity by which men endeavor to direct the quantities of goods (consumption goods and means of production) at their disposal to the most effective satisfaction of their needs.

 

[Sceptic]

Pleasure's all mine Roxor

 

[Cassidy]

whose alt was terror teats?

Drog i think.

Shame. I liked him.

Considering all mentions of Potato and the fact he earned a Potato avatar and a special "Out of Potato" tag instead of a common banned tag I always thought he was the alt of some Pole.

 

[Scream Phoenix]

It is a mystery.

 

[Luigi]

AUTOBAHN

 

[SCO]

Is the Jim Profit creature contained? Look at this thread:
http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic ... highlight=

 

[Vibalist]

Thanks Admiral and CK for the info. Updated my alts.txt

Updated Info:

Confirmed Chefe alts:
Schattenjäger, KickAss, Dark_Paladin_Antihero

Almost confirmed Chefe alts:
Vibalist

Probable chefe alts:
Black Cat, AndhairaX

Suspected Drog alts:
Donkey Balls

Cloaked Figure alts:
Orgasm

CrimHead is also an alt. But I don't know from who. Suspects are Ch1ef, Drog and Lebanese Warrior.

Were you just adding random names to your list for the hell of it Kosmonaut?

 

[DraQ]

Needs arise from ou drives and the drives are imbedded in our nature. An imperfect satisfaction of needs leads to the stunting of our nature. Failure to satisfy them brings about our destruction. But to satisfy our needs is to live and prosper. Thus the attempt to provide for the satisfaction of our needs is synonymous with the attempt to provide for our lives and well-being. It is the most important of all human endeavors, since it is the prerequisite and foundation of all others.

In practice, the concern of men for the satisfaction of their needs is expressed as an attempt to attain command of all the things on which the satisfaction of their needs depends. If a person has command of all the consumption goods necessary to satisfy his needs, their actual satisfaction depends only on his will. We may thus consider his objective as having been attained when he is in possession of these goods, since his life and well-being are then in his own hands. The quantities of consumption goods a person must have to satisfy his needs may be termed his requirements. The concern of men for the maintenance of their lives and well-being becomes, therefore, an attempt to provide themselves with their requirements.

But if men were concerned about providing themselves with their requirements for goods only when they experienced an immediate need of them, the satisfaction of their needs, and hence their lives and well-being, would be very inadequately assured.

If we suppose the inhabitants of a country to be entirely without stocks of foodstuffs and clothing at the beginning of winter, there can be no doubt that the majority of them would be unable to save themselves from destruction, even by the most desperate efforts directed to the satisfaction of their needs. But the further civilization advances, and the more men come to depend upon procuring the goods necessary for the satisfaction of their needs by a long process of production, the more compelling becomes the necessity of arranging in advance for the satisfaction of their needs—that is, of providing their requirements for future time periods.

Even an Australian savage does not postpone hunting until he actually experiences hunger. Nor does he postpone building his shelter until inclement weather has begun and he is already exposed to its harmful effects. But men in civilized societies alone among economizing individuals plan for the satisfaction of their needs, not for a short period only, but for much longer periods of time. Civilized men strive to ensure the satisfaction of their needs for many years to come. Indeed, they not only plan for their entire lives, but as a rule, extend their plans still further in their concern that even their descendants shall not lack means for the satisfaction of their needs.

Wherever we turn among civilized peoples we find a system of large-scale advance provision for the satisfaction of human needs. When we are still wearing our heavy clothes for protection against the cold of winter, not only are ready-made spring clothes already on the way to retail stores, but in factories light cloths are being woven which we will wear next summer, while yarns are being spun for the heavy clothing we will use the following winter. When we fall ill we need the services of a physician. In legal disputes we require the advice of a lawyer. But it would be much too late, for a person in either contingency to meet his need, if he should only then attempt to acquire the medical or legal knowledge and skills himself, or attempt to arrange the special training of other persons for his service, even though he might possess the necessary means. In civilized countries, the needs of society for these and similar services are provided for in good time, since experienced and proven men, having prepared themselves for their professions many years ago, and having since collected rich experiences from their practices, place their services at the disposal of society. And while we enjoy the fruits of the foresight of past times in this way, many men are being trained in our universities to meet the needs of society for similar services in the future.

The concern of men for the satisfaction of theirs needs thus becomes an attempt to provide in advance for meeting their requirements in the future, and we shall therefore call a person’s requirements those quantities of goods that are necessary to satisfy his needs within the time period covered by his plans.

There are two kinds of knowledge that men must possess as a prerequisite for any successful attempt to provide in advance for the satisfaction of their needs. They must become clear: (a) about their requirements—that is, about the quantities of goods they will need to satisfy their needs during the time period over which their plans extend, and (b) about the quantities of goods at their disposal for the purpose of meeting these requirements.

All provident activity directed to the satisfaction of human needs is based on knowledge of these two classes of quantities. Lacking knowledge of the first, the activity of men would be conducted blindly, for they would be ignorant of their objective. Lacking knowledge of the second, their activity would be planless, for they would have no conception of the available means.

In what follows, it will first be shown how men arrive at a knowledge of their requirements for future time periods; it will then be shown how they estimate the quantities of goods that will be at their disposal during these time periods; and finally a description will be given of the activity by which men endeavor to direct the quantities of goods (consumption goods and means of production) at their disposal to the most effective satisfaction of their needs.

I have never suspected you of being capable of such... such... a thing.

 

[Xor]

Needs arise from ou drives and the drives are imbedded in our nature. An imperfect satisfaction of needs leads to the stunting of our nature. Failure to satisfy them brings about our destruction. But to satisfy our needs is to live and prosper. Thus the attempt to provide for the satisfaction of our needs is synonymous with the attempt to provide for our lives and well-being. It is the most important of all human endeavors, since it is the prerequisite and foundation of all others.

In practice, the concern of men for the satisfaction of their needs is expressed as an attempt to attain command of all the things on which the satisfaction of their needs depends. If a person has command of all the consumption goods necessary to satisfy his needs, their actual satisfaction depends only on his will. We may thus consider his objective as having been attained when he is in possession of these goods, since his life and well-being are then in his own hands. The quantities of consumption goods a person must have to satisfy his needs may be termed his requirements. The concern of men for the maintenance of their lives and well-being becomes, therefore, an attempt to provide themselves with their requirements.

But if men were concerned about providing themselves with their requirements for goods only when they experienced an immediate need of them, the satisfaction of their needs, and hence their lives and well-being, would be very inadequately assured.

If we suppose the inhabitants of a country to be entirely without stocks of foodstuffs and clothing at the beginning of winter, there can be no doubt that the majority of them would be unable to save themselves from destruction, even by the most desperate efforts directed to the satisfaction of their needs. But the further civilization advances, and the more men come to depend upon procuring the goods necessary for the satisfaction of their needs by a long process of production, the more compelling becomes the necessity of arranging in advance for the satisfaction of their needs—that is, of providing their requirements for future time periods.

Even an Australian savage does not postpone hunting until he actually experiences hunger. Nor does he postpone building his shelter until inclement weather has begun and he is already exposed to its harmful effects. But men in civilized societies alone among economizing individuals plan for the satisfaction of their needs, not for a short period only, but for much longer periods of time. Civilized men strive to ensure the satisfaction of their needs for many years to come. Indeed, they not only plan for their entire lives, but as a rule, extend their plans still further in their concern that even their descendants shall not lack means for the satisfaction of their needs.

Wherever we turn among civilized peoples we find a system of large-scale advance provision for the satisfaction of human needs. When we are still wearing our heavy clothes for protection against the cold of winter, not only are ready-made spring clothes already on the way to retail stores, but in factories light cloths are being woven which we will wear next summer, while yarns are being spun for the heavy clothing we will use the following winter. When we fall ill we need the services of a physician. In legal disputes we require the advice of a lawyer. But it would be much too late, for a person in either contingency to meet his need, if he should only then attempt to acquire the medical or legal knowledge and skills himself, or attempt to arrange the special training of other persons for his service, even though he might possess the necessary means. In civilized countries, the needs of society for these and similar services are provided for in good time, since experienced and proven men, having prepared themselves for their professions many years ago, and having since collected rich experiences from their practices, place their services at the disposal of society. And while we enjoy the fruits of the foresight of past times in this way, many men are being trained in our universities to meet the needs of society for similar services in the future.

The concern of men for the satisfaction of theirs needs thus becomes an attempt to provide in advance for meeting their requirements in the future, and we shall therefore call a person’s requirements those quantities of goods that are necessary to satisfy his needs within the time period covered by his plans.

There are two kinds of knowledge that men must possess as a prerequisite for any successful attempt to provide in advance for the satisfaction of their needs. They must become clear: (a) about their requirements—that is, about the quantities of goods they will need to satisfy their needs during the time period over which their plans extend, and (b) about the quantities of goods at their disposal for the purpose of meeting these requirements.

All provident activity directed to the satisfaction of human needs is based on knowledge of these two classes of quantities. Lacking knowledge of the first, the activity of men would be conducted blindly, for they would be ignorant of their objective. Lacking knowledge of the second, their activity would be planless, for they would have no conception of the available means.

In what follows, it will first be shown how men arrive at a knowledge of their requirements for future time periods; it will then be shown how they estimate the quantities of goods that will be at their disposal during these time periods; and finally a description will be given of the activity by which men endeavor to direct the quantities of goods (consumption goods and means of production) at their disposal to the most effective satisfaction of their needs.

I have never suspected you of being capable of such... such... a thing.

http://mises.org/etexts/menger/two.asp

 

[Sceptic]

Thanks Admiral and CK for the info. Updated my alts.txt

Lots of inaccurate data. I doubt Orgasm is a CF alt, OTOH Etienne_the_guardian and Lebanese Warrior are confirmed alts. Donkey Balls isn't a "suspected" Drog alt, it's Drog, as are OgreOgre, DoubleOgre, Droog White Smile, and about twenty others that didn't last as long.

Pretty sure Black Cat is genuine. I can't even understand trolls who put a lot of effort into their trolling, but an alt that puts a lot of effort into making genuinely good content? Why? Just so he can then laugh and say "haha gotcha!"? He's not gonna elicit any rage, just a vague feeling of sadness. So... no, not a Chefe alt, pretty sure of that.

Schattenjäger is a Bryce alt. As is Knightrider, though IIRC this one was then handed to Chefe for lulz. Bryce's alts also include Jim Kata (or was it another Jim? if so, apologies to Jim Kata), and one more whose name I can't remember.

I have never suspected you of being capable of such... such... a thing.

What, of copy/pasting something off the internet? You mean you thought I was THAT much of a tech idiot?

Anyway I got accused of being Wyrmlord, so I replied with a typical Wyrmlordian post: copypastaed economics from some book. SCO specifically requested Austrian economics, so after a quick Google search I obliged

http://mises.org/etexts/menger/two.asp

Hey, give me some credit here, I manually deleted all the citations.

 

[DraQ]

I have never suspected you of being capable of such... such... a thing.

What, of copy/pasting something off the internet? You mean you thought I was THAT much of a tech idiot?

Anyway I got accused of being Wyrmlord, so I replied with a typical Wyrmlordian post: copypastaed economics from some book. SCO specifically requested Austrian economics, so after a quick Google search I obliged

http://mises.org/etexts/menger/two.asp

Hey, give me some credit here, I manually deleted all the citations.

Jesus fucking Christ (.jpg), this shit instantly shut down my brain.
For some reason I thought you wrote it yourself and it was fucking black abyss of terror.
Hm, maybe I thought that exactly because it shut down my brain?



In any case, not cool, man. Not cool. I'm forced to retaliate:

Unreal 2 spider gun.

Unreal 2 female PA.

Yes, I just did.

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

Bryce's alts also include Jim Kata (or was it another Jim? if so, apologies to Jim Kata)

You have it right http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=27503

 

[DraQ]

Wasn't I suspected of being Bryce's alt immediately after joining?

 

[Jigawatt]

Isn't everyone?

 

[Cassidy]

http://mises.org/etexts/menger/two.asp

mises.org is the ultimate Lolbertarian Bible.

There are of course those who think leaving a country to mega-corporations without any government will lead to an Utopian society rather than to the mega-corporations assuming the role of a government and turning a country into a corporate-ruled fascist dictatorship.

Also, the final solution has been delivered.

 

[SCO]

Bryce's alts also include Jim Kata (or was it another Jim? if so, apologies to Jim Kata)

You have it right http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=27503

I... tell me it isn't true.

Serious_Business Still posts rather frequently. Surprisingly, this alt is far less vocal than others. I'm assuming he would be easily spotted if he actually started expressing opinions.

Same one?

http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic ... bea5ee4aa2

Edit: it isn't, next post confirmed it. Thread is well worth reading though.

 

[Sceptic]

Jesus fucking Christ (.jpg), this shit instantly shut down my brain.
For some reason I thought you wrote it yourself and it was fucking black abyss of terror.

That's a hilarious thought actually
I have to admit I didn't even know what I was posting, as I didn't bother reading it.
I would apologize, but consider this yet ANOTHER installment in my plan to extract full payment for the rainbow unicorm pic

Unreal 2 spider gun.

Too small, can't see a thing. Mind unaffected

Unreal 2 female PA.

Wh... what... what the hell is this abominaiton?

Wasn't I suspected of being Bryce's alt immediately after joining?

... really? odd, you don't write anything like him, and you definitely lack both the compuslive lying and the mean streak (unicorn event not included). Maybe it was the encyclopedic knowledge of some computer games? If your introductory posts were anything like the essays you wrote when we debated TES lore back when I joined, I can understand why people were suspicious.

I... tell me it isn't true.

Yeah that was my initial reaction too. Thankfully, it's not. All's right with the world.

 

[DraQ]

Unreal 2 female PA.

Wh... what... what the hell is this abominaiton?

boomheadshot.


It's a member of exclusively female elite commando squad known as Liandri Angels wearing what was presumably meant to be a heavy suit of powered armour.
As imagined by talented folks at Legend.
Problem?

... really? odd, you don't write anything like him, and you definitely lack both the compuslive lying and the mean streak (unicorn event not included).

It happened here, though my very first post revolved around making use based better and less exploit prone (and I wouldn't mind someone reviving the discussion with some fresh ideas, TBH*).



*) Hint, hint.

 

[Nael]

Unreal 2 female PA.

:/

 

[Sceptic]

It's a member of exclusively female elite commando squad known as Liandri Angels wearing what was presumably meant to be a heavy suit of powered armour.

It's the transcluscency. I can see... something... vaguely female in form... somewhere in there... it's...

All is forgiven just please... don't do this to me again

As imagined by talented folks at Legend.

THAT is what pisses me off most about this shit. The people at Legend ARE talented FFS. For 10 years they heaped on us some fantastic games. And then they had to go out with this abomination

It happened here

Dunno, I thought the accusation of being Bryce was aimed at OP. The tag seems to confirm this too.

Hint, hint.

Yeah I get it I'll have a thorough read when I have time and I'll try to think of something interesting to bring to it.

 

[DraQ]

It's a member of exclusively female elite commando squad known as Liandri Angels wearing what was presumably meant to be a heavy suit of powered armour.

It's the transcluscency. I can see... something... vaguely female in form... somewhere in there... it's...

All is forgiven just please... don't do this to me again

I'd be delighted to not do such things to you again if only you could be so kind to refrain from stalling my brain.

THAT is what pisses me off most about this shit. The people at Legend ARE talented FFS. For 10 years they heaped on us some fantastic games. And then they had to go out with this abomination

And then gamers went all and Epic completely abandoned any lingering thoughts about maybe returning to SP Unreal someday (and when they did return to SP it was Gore-of-Whore).

Yeah, thank you a lot, whoever you are, person/committee responsible for atrocity that was Unreal 2.

Dunno, I thought the accusation of being Bryce was aimed at OP. The tag seems to confirm this too.

Actually, that's entirely possible.

:assburger:

Yeah I get it I'll have a thorough read when I have time and I'll try to think of something interesting to bring to it.

 

[Sceptic]

Speaking of Bryce...

Wikipenis
I'm Bryce. I tell you about my e-penis!

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