Spiderweb Avernum 4: Greed and Glory - Jeff Vogel returns to the Avernum remakes

[Infinitron]

Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spiderwebsoftware/avernum-4-greed-and-glory

Spoiler

The Queen's Wish series has been abandoned for now.

 

[Agesilaus]

DAMN IT VOGEL YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE US A GENEFORGE 3 REMAKE

 

[Infinitron]

DAMN IT VOGEL YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE US A GENEFORGE 3 REMAKE

That'll be after this one.

 

[Hobo Elf]

I guess this means that Queen's Wish is dead.

 

[Leonard]

I guess it's only fair of Vogel to remake the most garbage of Avernum games before remaking the most garbage Geneforge title.

 

[Fargus]

I guess it's only fair of Vogel to remake the most garbage of Avernum games before remaking the most garbage Geneforge title.

Most garbage? It's a cult classic (according to Vogel)

It will be a remaster of the indie RPG cult-classic Avernum 4

 

[OSK]

I guess it's only fair of Vogel to remake the most garbage of Avernum games before remaking the most garbage Geneforge title.

Do the games get better after 4? I love the original trilogy, but 4 killed any enthusiasm I had for the rest of the series.

 

[I eat frozen vegetables]

I was going to buy the bundle of Avernum 1-6 because I thought Jeff abandoned the idea of remaking the latter half of the series. Glad to see that I was proven wrong.

 

[luj1]

Sucks that he is only making remakes but 1) at least they are remakes of good games, 2) at least they are RPGs.

 

[HammyTheFat]

I guess it's only fair of Vogel to remake the most garbage of Avernum games before remaking the most garbage Geneforge title.

Do the games get better after 4? I love the original trilogy, but 4 killed any enthusiasm I had for the rest of the series.

6 was fun but im not sure if that's because it was a sort of bittersweet ending to a series i loved or because it was actually good.

for example there's a really hard hitting scene where solberg goes out in a literal blaze of glory, but this would have zero effect on people who hadn't played the previous games and didnt know who he was.

the greys being right still makes me seethe

 

[notpl]

"Massively expand"? He didn't add shit to either of the geneforge remakes, what on earth would convince anyone this will be different?

 

[Jaesun]

He didn't add shit to either of the geneforge remakes

What did he not add?

 

[jebsmoker]

Avernum 4 is worth remaking, mostly because it's a pain in the ass to run on modern operating systems and hardware and the original version of it was half-baked and rushed

 

[Nim]

Grey and brown: The remake. And chitrach ofc.

 

[almondblight]

Avernum 6 at least was pretty well received here. Here's Vault Dweller's impressions:

Avernum 6 is a superbly designed game, one of Jeff's best. He really got the sandbox gameplay down to a science and it shows. I'm tempted to write a review because I'm sure that many people look at the screens and go "Money for THAT? You've gotta be kidding. An autistic 8 year old can draw better doodles".

To put it simply, the game is fucking awesome. If you like sandbox games, download the demo, because it's THE best sandbox game ever. It's better than my beloved Daggerfall, it's better than Gothic 2, it's better than Morrowind, it's better than Risen. The graphics are one step above ASCII, but the gameplay (fucking everything, from loot distribution and battles to dungeon and quest design) is top notch. 10/10.

 

[*-*/\--/\~]

So... will he dumb it down like he did with A3 remake? Because that retarded parody of a skill system still haunts me.

 

[thesecret1]

I guess it's better than another Queen's Shit

 

[Gandalf]

I wasn't expecting a remake of the second trilogy that fast. That makes it 6 games on the current pipeline (3 Geneforge and 3 Avernum titles). I wonder if there's going to be a place for something new and an another Nethergate remake in between.

 

[Habichtswalder]

He didn't add shit to either of the geneforge remakes

What did he not add?

Shit

 

[Lord_Potato]

Avernum 4 is worth remaking, mostly because it's a pain in the ass to run on modern operating systems and hardware and the original version of it was half-baked and rushed

GOG version of Avernum 4 works as a charm

 

[Lord_Potato]

I wasn't expecting a remake of the second trilogy that fast. That makes it 6 games on the current pipeline (3 Geneforge and 3 Avernum titles). I wonder if there's going to be a place for something new and an another Nethergate remake in between.

Nethergate was made and remade and never earned much, so why dive into the same river thrice?

 

[kuniqs]

Avernum 4 remake? No thanks, I'll wait for Avernum 1 remake remake remake, 3rd time's the charm.

 

[Gandalf]

I wasn't expecting a remake of the second trilogy that fast. That makes it 6 games on the current pipeline (3 Geneforge and 3 Avernum titles). I wonder if there's going to be a place for something new and an another Nethergate remake in between.

Nethergate was made and remade and never earned much, so why dive into the same river thrice?

I wrote it, because I just want to play it, but since you've mentioned it, perhaps there is always a possibility that the new remake will introduce the game to all of the current and future Vogelmaniacs that might be not aware of Nethergate to exist at all or those who hesitated to play it in the past or forgot to play it at all.

In 2027 will pass 20 yeasrs since Ressurection cam into this world. There's much possibility to reintroduce it to the world, I hope so.

 

[kuniqs]

Nethergate was designed around its engine and I think metroidvania teasers like the 100ft drop in the abandoned mine are impossible in the NuNuAvernum engine and both versions made little money for a lot of historical research, so why bother?

 

[Gandalf]

I bet JV could just tweak his engine to make things work perfectly fine, he's a living legend after all.