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FAPPERS?
Copyrightable version of coomers
FAPPERS?
Good to see FATAL has a sequel.FAPPERS?
Copyrightable version of coomers
Exactly. More often than not the dichotomy between the natural and supernatural sciences is fake. Because in most settings 'Magic' is little more than some sort of energy which can be directed and shaped with enough study. The idea that magic stunts technological growth and impedes industrialization is nifty but not always true, case in point:Magic is hard to distinguish from sufficiently advanced artisanal technique, but industry is what transformed society in a pervasive fashion.
Guns have been in fantasy since at least 1516 when one of the villians of Orlando Furioso used one. This is supposed to take place during the reign of Charlemange.this should be tattoed on the backs of every gun-phobe from here to cathayYou have people wearing armor from 16th century that was specifically designed with guns in mind
people who can't stomach the only early modern fantasy in the world because it's not '''''''''''''''medieval''''''''''''''' enough are below contempt. medieval fantasy settings have been garbage for 40 years now and they still ask for more of that same slop.
Hasn't stopped anyone from studying it like it's physics and hasn't stopped civilizations from engineering themselves a magical industrial age. In fact, the 'weave' is ridiculously straightforward. It's supernatural capability is almost nill. At the end of the day the mass produced Wand of Light Cantrip is no different from the mass produced lightbulbs and 'Mystra' willed it so.In Forgotten Realms, magic isn't some type of "advanced technology" they don't understand or something that can be classified next to technology. The weave is a product of Mystra, which could arguably be interpreted as making all magic-users some form of cleric, I suppose.
Basically, it's inherently supernatural.
It's the definition of supernatural.It's supernatural capability is almost nill.
The point is it's stemlord shit like everything else in that world.It's the definition of supernatural.It's supernatural capability is almost nill.
try playing mage the awakening with a chemistry graduateThat feel when you're trying to play a PnP game and your friend keeps saying
"Guys what if we used this [magical device] to build a rail gun? I'm an engineer so I can't help but think this way haha"
nah that's easyThat's basically an alchemist though.
Mask of the Betrayer is better than Torment. You're 15 years late.
Mask of the Betrayer is better than Torment. You're 15 years late.
I'm not going to argue that Obsidian hasn't made some great games in it's run, as they have. Mask is definitely one of them. So is New Vegas.
My response has more to do with the realization as to what Obsidian has become now. A husk of it's former glory.
"husk of its former glory" is too strong an expression.
Come on dude. Most video game companies don't release any good games at all. Old Obsidian had several, so what if there were some duds in the middle too?Husk of its former glory? That's BioWare.
But Obsidian, going from NWN2 OC in 2006 to Deadfire in 2018? From Dungeon Siege 3 in 2011 to The Outer Worlds in 2019? Eh...
There's been a certain decline and there's been a generational turnover of talent within the company (the loss of Chris Avellone alone was a huge blow), but "husk of its former glory" is too strong an expression. They were never that great in the first place and the culture war stuff is distorting everybody's view of it.
In many fantasy settings, including D&D, the gods derive their power from how strongly people believe in them. If a technological revolution occured and people started relying more on technology and less on magic, they would naturally become more skeptical of the gods. So the gods would have an incentive to let technology remain stagnant.I just don't see the logic in the world suddenly stopping at an arbitrary technological point all because of some men with silly hats, unless there was a concerted effort to suppress it as part of some sort of political power play.
Come on dude. Most video game companies don't release any good games at all. Old Obsidian had several, so what if there were some duds in the middle too?
the gods derive their power from how strongly people believe in them.
If your objective was to trigger me by conflating the Forgotten Realms with Dungeons & Dragons, consider it mission accomplished.In D&D it's actually in the lore that the Harpers go out of their way to prevent technological progress. Dunno if there's anything similar in Pathfinder.
Rough gem-era Obsidian: kotor 2, Mask of the Betrayer, Alpha Protocol, New Vegas
Polished turd-era Obsidian: Dungeon Siege III, South Park, Pillars of Eternity, Tyranny, Deadfire, The Outer Worlds, Grounded
I'd have to question that. In retrospect, and from what leaks I've seen here, my reading is that he was already sidelined in New Vegas, and then completely sidelined after Alpha Protocol.the loss of Chris Avellone alone was a huge blow