Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming February 18th

[Wunderbar]

Microsoft bosses are fucking retarded. They own Bethesda, they own Obsidian, put two and two together fuckwits. CDPR bois are dead in the water after they ran out of RealityPump devs to exploit so Ubisoft is the only competition in town right now. Just have Obsidian pump out stand-alone expansion packs of NetImmerse games. The fuck are they doing reinventing the wheel over there?

bold of you to assume Obsidian still has what it takes to make FoNV-tier game. Unless by 'netimmerse expansion packs' you mean something on the level of 'Mothership Zeta', except stand-alone.

 

[good fucking shit happen]

bold of you to assume Obsidian still has what it takes to make FoNV-tier game. Unless by 'netimmerse expansion packs' you mean something on the level of 'Mothership Zeta', except stand-alone.

Nah mane, they already did Outer Worlds.

 

[Roguey]

Microsoft bosses are fucking retarded. They own Bethesda, they own Obsidian, put two and two together fuckwits. CDPR bois are dead in the water after they ran out of RealityPump devs to exploit so Ubisoft is the only competition in town right now. Just have Obsidian pump out stand-alone expansion packs of NetImmerse games. The fuck are they doing reinventing the wheel over there?

It's been reported that MS wants Obsidian to make Bethbryo Fallout games, but Bethesda still has autonomy and they don't want that to happen.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Microsoft bosses are fucking retarded. They own Bethesda, they own Obsidian, put two and two together fuckwits. CDPR bois are dead in the water after they ran out of RealityPump devs to exploit so Ubisoft is the only competition in town right now. Just have Obsidian pump out stand-alone expansion packs of NetImmerse games. The fuck are they doing reinventing the wheel over there?

most of the people that made fnv don't work at obsidian anymore
microsoft bought a shell of a company

I find it difficult to justify all these acquisitions and mergers (not just discussing Microsoft) when there's such little gain to be had. If there was some IP or key piece of technology being acquired they would make sense, but what are you really acquiring when you buy a small or medium gamedev studio?
It's like they're speedrunning a repeat of the late 90s/early 00s acquisitions & mergers that resulted in exoduses and formation of new developers.

 

[Roguey]

I find it difficult to justify all these acquisitions and mergers (not just discussing Microsoft) when there's such little gain to be had. If there was some IP or key piece of technology being acquired they would make sense, but what are you really acquiring when you buy a small or medium gamedev studio?

For MS, it's specially for them to have games that will always be on gamepass that they won't have to periodically renew.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I find it difficult to justify all these acquisitions and mergers (not just discussing Microsoft) when there's such little gain to be had. If there was some IP or key piece of technology being acquired they would make sense, but what are you really acquiring when you buy a small or medium gamedev studio?

For MS, it's specially for them to have games that will always be on gamepass that they won't have to periodically renew.

Man idk, I looked at the EA pass thing and game pass but neither really has anything that would make me want to spend any money.
EA was especially pitiful, never realized how bad their library is now. Only way I could see someone paying for that is the Jedi souls game or someone who really likes old bioware but doesn't own the games.

 

[Wunderbar]

most of the people that made fnv don't work at obsidian anymore
microsoft bought a shell of a company
If there was some IP or key piece of technology being acquired they would make sense

what about that... uh... branching dialogue tool they made for poe. Totally worth it i'd say.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

Microsoft bosses are fucking retarded. They own Bethesda, they own Obsidian, put two and two together fuckwits. CDPR bois are dead in the water after they ran out of RealityPump devs to exploit so Ubisoft is the only competition in town right now. Just have Obsidian pump out stand-alone expansion packs of NetImmerse games. The fuck are they doing reinventing the wheel over there?

most of the people that made fnv don't work at obsidian anymore
microsoft bought a shell of a company

I find it difficult to justify all these acquisitions and mergers (not just discussing Microsoft) when there's such little gain to be had. If there was some IP or key piece of technology being acquired they would make sense, but what are you really acquiring when you buy a small or medium gamedev studio?
It's like they're speedrunning a repeat of the late 90s/early 00s acquisitions & mergers that resulted in exoduses and formation of new developers.

Corporations tend to think more in branding/franchises/IP focused ways rather than practical solutions. For them buying even a moderately successful IP is beneficial, they have enough money that millions are just peanuts, and the good will of consumers is more important for them than creating a better product.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Microsoft bosses are fucking retarded. They own Bethesda, they own Obsidian, put two and two together fuckwits. CDPR bois are dead in the water after they ran out of RealityPump devs to exploit so Ubisoft is the only competition in town right now. Just have Obsidian pump out stand-alone expansion packs of NetImmerse games. The fuck are they doing reinventing the wheel over there?

most of the people that made fnv don't work at obsidian anymore
microsoft bought a shell of a company

I find it difficult to justify all these acquisitions and mergers (not just discussing Microsoft) when there's such little gain to be had. If there was some IP or key piece of technology being acquired they would make sense, but what are you really acquiring when you buy a small or medium gamedev studio?
It's like they're speedrunning a repeat of the late 90s/early 00s acquisitions & mergers that resulted in exoduses and formation of new developers.

Corporations tend to think more in branding/franchises/IP focused ways rather than practical solutions. For them buying even a moderately successful IP is beneficial, they have enough money that millions are just peanuts, and the good will of consumers is more important for them than creating a better product.

For Microsoft, perhaps. But I see a very thq future for embracer if things continue as is.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Come to work at noon, have a latte in a meeting, check your twitter, get an afternoon coffee, chat with colleagues and go home to rest for the next day.

Obsidian is like a Stay in Home Girlfriend then?

 

[AwesomeButton]

Come to work at noon, have a latte in a meeting, check your twitter, get an afternoon coffee, chat with colleagues and go home to rest for the next day.

Obsidian is like a Stay in Home Girlfriend then?

Now that MS owns them, the situation is closer to the Stay at Home Modern Emancipated Wife. Much worse than the girlfriend version

 

[Child of Malkav]

Does anyone still have that list of people who worked on FONV? There was a list showing who worked on what aspect of that game and where are those people working now. The percentage of people that worked on FONV and then left Obsidian was at 74%. I can't find that list anymore.

 

[Roguey]

Does anyone still have that list of people who worked on FONV? There was a list showing who worked on what aspect of that game and where are those people working now. The percentage of people that worked on FONV and then left Obsidian was at 74%. I can't find that list anymore.

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...-revelations-and-deadfire.123110/post-5728891

 

[Delterius]

haha naysayers destroyed

Spoiler

hey guys do you think the editor of 'windows central' has a conflict of interest here

 

[santino27]

Jez is the biggest shill on the planet.

 

[MajorMace]

Tbh his declaration is very neutral.
"Avowed ? The whole team is very glad to be done with it very soon, excellent atmosphere at the office right now !" is an example of a good thing heard about Avowed.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

People may think Henry Ford or Rockefeller were good businessmen, but I dare you to find a bigger mastermind than Feargus who tricked Microsoft to buy a company that can deliver nothing for 3 years except a glorified flash game.

 

[Wunderbar]

IHaveHugeNick you forgot Grounded, their most well rounded outing thus far.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Grounded was already in production before the acquisition so it doesn't count.

 

[Roguey]

People may think Henry Ford or Rockefeller were good businessmen, but I dare you to find a bigger mastermind than Feargus who tricked Microsoft to buy a company that can deliver nothing for 3 years except a glorified flash game.

Fearg does have some cover in that big budget games have become so bloated that 5+ year cycles are now considered normal.

Fun fact: Video game production cycles have gotten so long that if a big-budget game studio started working on a brand new project today, it would likely be for the PlayStation 6

 

[General Disarray]

People may think Henry Ford or Rockefeller were good businessmen, but I dare you to find a bigger mastermind than Feargus who tricked Microsoft to buy a company that can deliver nothing for 3 years except a glorified flash game.

Fearg does have some cover in that big budget games have become so bloated that 5+ year cycles are now considered normal.

Fun fact: Video game production cycles have gotten so long that if a big-budget game studio started working on a brand new project today, it would likely be for the PlayStation 6

Lol it would still be for PS4 but take 5+ years. Most new games are also availble on the PS4, all about market shares and next gen fucked up.

 

[Sunsetspawn]

I'm not sure why everything needs to be so cutting edge. A group of devs, under an indy flag, aiming for the production values of the late aughts could absolutely clean up if they create a quality product. Shit can look like Oblivion so long as it plays like Gothic. Or am I being too optimistic? Do I need a rainbow rating and a kick in the ass?

 

[Nano]

I'm not sure why everything needs to be so cutting edge. A group of devs, under an indy flag, aiming for the production values of the late aughts could absolutely clean up if they create a quality product. Shit can look like Oblivion so long as it plays like Gothic. Or am I being too optimistic? Do I need a rainbow rating and a kick in the ass?

Rolling back AAA games to the production values of the late 2000s would be the sane solution. But it won't happen. Mainstream gamers and publisher execs would both screech about the graphics not being good enough.

 

[Roguey]

I'm not sure why everything needs to be so cutting edge. A group of devs, under an indy flag, aiming for the production values of the late aughts could absolutely clean up if they create a quality product. Shit can look like Oblivion so long as it plays like Gothic. Or am I being too optimistic? Do I need a rainbow rating and a kick in the ass?

Rolling back AAA games to the production values of the late 2000s would be the sane solution. But it won't happen. Mainstream gamers and publisher execs would both screech about the graphics not being good enough.

Josh says software bloat's gotten so bad that making a AA game is now even more difficult than making a AAA game from a decade ago.

 

[Old Hans]

Shit can look like Oblivion

that's crazy talk. Oblivion did not age well. I'd take something that looks like early 2000's quake or unreal engine, but with modern shaders. You can do a lot of cool stuff and you dont need 6000000 polygons