luj1
You're all shills
Of course, the attempt at boosting sales worked for Bethesda Softworks.
The tragedy is that you dont have to dumb down games to make money
Morrowind saved Bethesda from bankruptcy
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Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting
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The tragedy is that you dont have to dumb down games to make money
Morrowind saved Bethesda from bankruptcy
Old Obsidians games were well received because of their writing and despite their gameplay.
Problem is that new Obsidian games are mediocre at best both in gameplay and writing department.
The old charm of creative underdogs they had has been lost and replaced by corporate, design by committee mediocrity.
Only people who still care about their games are those still high on fumes of nostalgia of their previous successes, hoping Obsidian will again reach the old heights.
Problem is that new Obsidian games are mediocre at best both in gameplay and writing department.
The old charm of creative underdogs they had has been lost and replaced by corporate, design by committee mediocrity.
Only people who still care about their games are those still high on fumes of nostalgia of their previous successes, hoping Obsidian will again reach the old heights.
luj1
You're all shills
It's literally just their first game SWKotOR 2.....
Also Mask of Betrayer, New Vegas, Alpha Protocol, all games that are considered to be well written and good games despite their gameplay.
Like I said about Avowed - "you are not playing the boxart". You are also not playing Vavra's dishonesty, but the actual game. But sure, it's down to you.
I mean, I'm not playing Avowed either. I tried it for 3 hours and uninstalled it. I think everyone should try everything and make up their own mind, however I'm not interested in determining whether KCD2 is "worth playing" or not. It's immaterial to me.
Their idea simply adapts to their lack of talented designers and competent technical people. The owners killled too many golden gooses. That Obsidian held out for so long despite its management is thanks to the PoE Kickstarter.
S.torch
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Yeah, I don't know why it keeps being repeated that Obsidian is putting all their effort into the story when all of it is so poorly done. And it has been like this since Deadfire.
It seems to me that the videogame industry has taking the same disease that Hollywood has. Nobody wants to code, write, design, do art, or do anything at all. Everyone seems to be obsessed with clout chasing, celebrity status, talking mad shit on social media. And nobody gives a shit about the thing they're supposedly creating (and charging you $70 for).
Probably but not by large margin. And just like Veliguard it will be forgotten in few months.
Avowed, a game with a massive budget made by a studio with a pedigree for great RPGs, has less than twice the highest player count of a game about digging a hole in your back yard made by two sedans worth of Germans.
https://steamdb.info/app/2457220/charts/
https://steamdb.info/app/3244220/charts/
https://steamdb.info/app/2457220/charts/
https://steamdb.info/app/3244220/charts/
Lord_Potato
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It hasn't been released yet to the wide audience, so perhaps we can wait a day or two with this assessment?
AlwaysBrotoMen
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yakuza pirates > Avowed in sales
Lord_Potato
Arcane
Poles will show dumb Californians how it's done - again.
Baron Dupek
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Obsidian now knows what it feels to be Bethesda when their game was being bullied and compared to New Vegas...
Dexter
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Who do you think has the better Modern Western RPG writing team? Obsidian or BioWare?Modern fantasy is 100% a female oriented 'genre'. I am surprised there are male writers in their team to be honest.No offense, but that’s too many women(and not in the kitchen).Avowed (credited) narrative team:
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This is goddamn fighting words nigger.Like how this site used to be.
Cryomancer
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This is goddamn fighting words nigger.Like how this site used to be.
Roguey when he's best. I salute it
Any RPG studio should have a mandatory 6-week period of training that includes playing 1st ED Advanced Dungeons and Dragons daily on a probationary period before they formally hire people.Who do you think has the better Modern Western RPG writing team? Obsidian or BioWare?Modern fantasy is 100% a female oriented 'genre'. I am surprised there are male writers in their team to be honest.No offense, but that’s too many women(and not in the kitchen).Avowed (credited) narrative team:
Hiring would be based on performance. None of these people would make the cut.
Dishonoredbr
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Can we have comparasion of the quest design , companions and writing , C&C , etc between the two games? Like can we compare shit that actually matter to the game being a good rpg or not ? Not even defending avowed , but these comparasion are pretty worthless. Just like cyberpunk was being compared to GTA back when it launched.
The people who make those videos are just grifters who try to copy Crowbcat. Avowed is looking mighty shit in a lot of areas but it's obvious that physics-based interaction with objects was nowhere near in their development priority.
Unfortunately the things that they did prioritize don't look very good either (except maybe combat, but I haven't experienced it firsthand) but there you go.
Although not being able to kill NPCs is extreme shit.
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