Avowed/Pillars of Eternity

[motherfucker]

nice blog faggot

 

[F. J. Rothchild III]

nice blog faggot

Who are you talking to?

 

[Diggfinger]

Appreciate the responses.
Thank you to all who offered their opinions!

The emoji responses to my original post didn’t bode well at first (and I did realize, only after posting, that I actually vaguely remember PoE being a bit of a punching bag/meme here and largely disliked), but nice to see some say they like them!

The reasons both camps give, however, seem rather equal to me in potential validity as reasons to either play them or skip them so I’m still not quite sure if I will or not. I think it will take hearing about a specific element that pushes me over into being sold or one that is the opposite and a deal breaker.

I am curious, though…

I know both are Obsidian, but is it largely the exact same people from the studio who made Outer Worlds that are making Avowed? Because, while I didn’t play Outer Worlds, it looked like the most derivative, trend-chasing, retro futurism game #69,666, with Borderlands-level character designs, awful dialogue and attitude, and (while I’m not certain) likely forced identity politics shit from our world (the opposite of escapism) and shallow pseudo-RPG features and missed opportunies for more immersive sim-like systems or any depth whatsoever. And wasn’t it even written by some serious heavyweights who have done great stuff prior? Are any of my assumptions about the game right despite me having not played it?

If so, and if the exact same people (not other people at Obsidian) are making Avowed, then consider me worried, too. It just looked cool to me and I was eager to play it and have a new multi-game/genre world to get into, but multiple folks on here describe Pillars’ word as bland, which is the opposite of what an RPG’s world should be, unless it’s some purposeful choice in some dystopian, urban, brutalist, grey, totalitarian sci-fi or something. But fantasy shouldn’t be bland…

Just wait for a sale, both games regularly have huge discounts both on GOG and Steam

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

i have never been as uninterested in a videogame as i've been with avowed, and the previews just make me less and less interested on it

be thankful we never got arcanum 2

 

[Hammer Of The Heretics]

I have that reaction with just about every AAA RPG these days. It's like anti-marketing - the more you know the less you want it.

 

[Terenty]

Imagine releasing this after Dragon's Dogma 2 and Kingdom Come 2

 

[F. J. Rothchild III]

Imagine releasing this after Dragon's Dogma 2 and Kingdom Come 2

I’m playing DD2, but KC2 is coming out?!? :0
I adore the first one.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Imagine releasing this after Dragon's Dogma 2 and Kingdom Come 2

and elden ring's dlc

 

[Technomancer]

Pillars 2 is also the best looking isometric game currently on the market.

Have to agree, its pretty gorgeous. Hard to find true isometric game that looks on that level. Maybe Beautiful Desolation but its not an RPG.

 

[NaturallyCarnivorousSheep]

Imagine releasing this after Dragon's Dogma 2 and Kingdom Come 2

I think they hoped they'll have late 2024 slot when their only competition would he DA4 which honestly will probably be worse than Avowed(note they still haven't shown any gameplay of da4, that tells you all you need to know)

 

[scytheavatar]

Imagine releasing this after Dragon's Dogma 2 and Kingdom Come 2

I think they hoped they'll have late 2024 slot when their only competition would he DA4 which honestly will probably be worse than Avowed(note they still haven't shown any gameplay of da4, that tells you all you need to know)

But we know that Dreadwolf is a third person action game, they (EA and Bioware) are confident that such games are popular and easy to sell which is not completely wrong. Avowed is a first person action game and the market for that is way, way more limited. If Avowed can be sold as a medieval New Vegas it would have been an easy game to sell, but alas Obsidian wants to make it clear that Avowed's NOT that.

 

[Goldschmidt]

Summary: majority of loudbreathers on codex dislike Pillars of Eternity because:

Worst fantasy setting (highly subjective of course). I guess pathfinder is much better.
Bad writing (serviceable enough but in a game who cares anyway?) I guess wrath of the tranny and underrail are much better.
Certain gameplay mechanics not up to taste for some codexers.

 

[Fedora Master]

Underrail writing blows any other modern RPG out of the water, fag.

 

[Goldschmidt]

Underrail writing blows any other modern RPG out of the water, fag.

Literature masterpiece for sure!