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Eternity Avowed Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

RegionalHobo

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i wonder if being a '' bethesda like '' game will save this game from getting veilguard tier performance

february is stacked, marketing is not strong and nothing i ve seen from this game generates hype personally

companions ofc are california tier

obsidian is quite close to bioware for me, it s been a long ass time since it did anything i liked. the question is am i just not the target audience, are they shit or both? guess we ll see
 

Paul_cz

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So what are people's guesses as to this game's and KCD2 (and other upcoming stuff like MHW or ACS) Steam CCU peak numbers?

These are mine

Kingdom Come Deliverance 2: 300K - 350K
Civilization 7 - 400K
Avowed - 40K
Monster Hunter Wilds - 900K (what people see in this shit I will never understand)
Assassin's Creed Shadows - 35K
Last of Us: Part 2 - 45K
 

VerSacrum

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KCD2 will be the big thing, but I'm slowly starting to believe that this here will be a diamond in the rough and better than Outer Worlds. Really like how they show waifufags and coomers the finger. We'll see.
 

Castozor

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Day 1 premium DLC for a 70 Euros game of 25~ish hours for stuff that used to be in games baseline? Truly shameless. I'm guessing their hoping to leech every last cent of the few suckers dumb enough to buy this.
 

Infinitron

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Why buy it? Normies should play Xbox first party titles with a Game Pass subscription. $12 per month, so if you finish the game in three months you paid $36 total for it. Cheap.

D1Ping is now for super fans only, the equivalent of buying the boxed Collector's Edition in the old days. For example, I D1P'd Pentiment because I wanted to support that kind of niche title.
 

dutchwench

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I'm buying Avowed day one because I believe that when you're coming to a funeral you should put some money in the donation box.
 

Konjad

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Why buy it? Normies should play Xbox first party titles with a Game Pass subscription. $12 per month, so if you finish the game in three months you paid $36 total for it. Cheap.

D1Ping is now for super fans only, the equivalent of buying the boxed Collector's Edition in the old days. For example, I D1P'd Pentiment because I wanted to support that kind of niche title.
'niche title'

Is this some kind of a language joke, or what the fuck did they pay you to say Obsidian is niche? Not that long ago they were major RPG developers.

Thanks,
Sherry
This post is pending Infinitron's approval
 

Gargaune

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Why buy it? Normies should play Xbox first party titles with a Game Pass subscription. $12 per month, so if you finish the game in three months you paid $36 total for it. Cheap.
Bruh! Don't be that guy! Subscription services are the worst blight gaming has ever seen, a bigger threat than consoles, lootboxes and DRM combined! If, for some tragic and unconscionable reason, a man really wants to play Avowed, he should suffer the $70 and buy it. We all have a right to ruin our own lives, but let's not ruin it for everyone else in the process.
 

Castozor

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Why not? I'm aware it's a plague on the industry by now but fully fleshed out DLC day one means you are getting ripped off by the base game, which considering they are not exactly one of the industry giants is not something I consider looking good on Obsidian.
 

Infinitron

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Why buy it? Normies should play Xbox first party titles with a Game Pass subscription. $12 per month, so if you finish the game in three months you paid $36 total for it. Cheap.
Bruh! Don't be that guy! Subscription services are the worst blight gaming has ever seen, a bigger threat than consoles, lootboxes and DRM combined! If, for some tragic and unconscionable reason, a man really wants to play Avowed, he should suffer the $70 and buy it. We all have a right to ruin our own lives, but let's not ruin it for everyone else in the process.
Microsoft want you to subscribe to Game Pass and then forget about it so they keep charging your credit card forever. I think that by doing what I described and then cancelling your subscription, you're making them lose money.
 

frajaq

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The real question is: is the Early Access gonna be cracked earlier too, so I can pirate this game fast?
 

Roguey

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Not one of these companions is likable. You can't even bring one cute girl with you to satisfy your male fanbase? Do you hate money or enthusiasm for your game or something. The pink haired furry thing does not count in the least. Who was the most popular companion in BG3 by romances? Learn the lesson.

And since I know the whole thing is going to be a diversity fest I know I won't find a single thing appealing about the characters in the world, and certainly nothing i've seen in any trailer has changed that core assumption. You guys just shoot yourselves in the foot with this stuff. But you have to know that by now.
Obsidian doesn't make games for racists.
 

Gargaune

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Microsoft want you to subscribe to Game Pass and then forget about it so they keep charging your credit card forever. I think that by doing what I described, you're making them lose money.
It's a drug dealer's first "bargain", you'll be back later for another taste and then again some other time. Meanwhile, the business is growing, expanding their base with both temporary and permanent customers, and making extra cash datamining on the side. Eventually, you'll just let them keep your credit card and settle for that "there's nothing better on" model I've ranted about before.

It's a long game and if they weren't the ones winning by the end, they wouldn't let you play it. The best for both you and the medium is to be an exacting customer - pay full market price for the titles that are genuinely worth it and viciously ignore (or mock) everything else.
 

Poseidon00

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Not one of these companions is likable. You can't even bring one cute girl with you to satisfy your male fanbase? Do you hate money or enthusiasm for your game or something. The pink haired furry thing does not count in the least. Who was the most popular companion in BG3 by romances? Learn the lesson.

And since I know the whole thing is going to be a diversity fest I know I won't find a single thing appealing about the characters in the world, and certainly nothing i've seen in any trailer has changed that core assumption. You guys just shoot yourselves in the foot with this stuff. But you have to know that by now.
Obsidian doesn't make games for racists.

It seems as if they have taken the bold strategy of making games for the customers they want to exist, rather than the customers that do exist.

Let's see if it pays off! It may be the first time this year! Or even this decade.
 

Roguey

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It seems as if they have taken the bold strategy of making games for the customers they want to exist, rather than the customers that do exist.

Let's see if it pays off! It may be the first time this year! Or even this decade.
They make games for themselves and hope they find an audience, same as Larian and nearly every other dev.

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Poseidon00

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If that is the case, I don't think anyone loves ugly brown people as much as modern video game devs. In fact, I would go as far as to say it's an unhealthy obsession at this point.

I do agree though, most modern video games are a reflection of the mentally ill mind of the creator.
 

FreeKaner

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Obsidian doesn't make games for racists.

How do you explain both of the games having a setting that has no Africans, Middle-easterners or Asians then? Even old school DND and sword & sorcery has some diversity in that regard. Meanwhile PoE1 setting is just various European cultures and basically savage islanders with a culture that is failing them against more advanced civilizations. Meanwhile it has an extreme attention to detail with regards to Old English, Celtic, Germanic and Mediterranean stuff that with headcanoning that would make even more elaborate hyperborea headlarper blush. No, Vailians don't count because they are obviously not African in the slightest, it is obviously some sort of autism that made them black because the islands are near equator, otherwise their culture is wholly Italian, with Old Vailia being more like South Italy & Spain and Vailian Republics being more alike North Italy.

If that is the case, I don't think anyone loves ugly brown people as much as modern video game devs. In fact, I would go as far as to say it's an unhealthy obsession at this point.

I do agree though, most modern video games are a reflection of the mentally ill mind of the creator.

It's a plain circlejerk made with zero knowledge that Americans love to pat themselves on the back for giving representation to other cultures, they don't love brown people, they love the idea that they know them. If the developers loved brown people with an unhealthy obsession they would actually pay some attention to actual details, look at how detail the Germanic Elf culture in PoE1/2 has despite never really featuring in PoE1 and only tangentially featuring in PoE2.
 

Infinitron

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
It seems as if they have taken the bold strategy of making games for the customers they want to exist, rather than the customers that do exist.

Let's see if it pays off! It may be the first time this year! Or even this decade.
They make games for themselves and hope they find an audience, same as Larian and nearly every other dev.

75IWJYEhL5FT.png

It seems uniquely difficult to get story-driven single player videogame developers to develop games with the sole focus of optimizing towards what their audiences want. They aren't paid enough for that. If they were looking for steady paychecks and audience engagement alone, they'd make multiplayer or mobile slop.

As players, we have to find the creatives who are "naturally" in tune with our tastes, and there aren't many of them. In other words, despite so many games flopping these days, it's a seller's market.
 

Roguey

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Obsidian doesn't make games for racists.

How do you explain both of the games having a setting that has no Africans, Middle-easterners or Asians then? Even old school DND and sword & sorcery has some diversity in that regard. Meanwhile PoE1 setting is just various European cultures and basically savage islanders with a culture that is failing them against more advanced civilizations. Meanwhile it has an extreme attention to detail with regards to Old English, Celtic, Germanic and Mediterranean stuff that with headcanoning that would make even more elaborate hyperborea headlarper blush. No, Vailians don't count because they are obviously not African in the slightest, it is obviously some sort of autism that made them black because the islands are near equator, otherwise their culture is wholly Italian, with Old Vailia being more like South Italy & Spain and Vailian Republics being more alike North Italy.
Sawyer's history degree was specifically focused on Europe. He doesn't feel comfortable writing about what he doesn't know and he didn't have the time and inclination to learn about the history of the Asian and African continents to the degree with which he learned about Europe.

In addition to that, any depiction of tribal Africans gives liberals the ick.
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Sawyer said:
Honest Hearts made me uncomfortable. What was the purpose of using every negative trope related to indigenous people in one game (cargo cults, mighty whitey, the ignorance and naivete of the NPCs and even naming a quest after the white man's burden)?
I don't think it would have been particularly interesting to suggest that, contrary to how the majority of various low-tech, low-contact cultures around the world have dealt with the arrival of cultures with significantly higher technology and scientific knowledge -- that the tribes of the Great Basin have some special psychological makeup that inures them to the same sorts of cultural processes.
(in the many years since 2011, Sawyer has bent the knee and apologized for this depiction in Honest Hearts)
 

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