Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3: Combat System Poll

[Wulfric Pinewood]

Turn based with special option for heretics to have active pause in real time combat. And there can be one more option, Phone Based Combat. You call your multiplayer friend to make a combat and give him general orders like formation etc, then leave your phone for 5 minutes and do something productive like drink beer or smoke a cigar. After that your friend must call you and inform about a progres and send you save file via sms, then you download it from your phone and import into game and move forward with story until next Phone Based Combat.

 

[Quillon]

Command based combat is better. CBC is essentially RTwP but you only control your character and shout out commands that your companions may or may not heed depending on how much they trust you and their current morale. Its universally acclaimed combat system used in real life situations(to a certain extent) as well. True story.

 

[Jack_Deth]

combat should auto-resolve, ain't nobody got time for that

 

[JarlFrank]

As long as there is no level scaling and random loot I will be happy with just about anything.

Too bad Swen absolutely loves random loot

 

[luj1]

I'm shocked that 99% of this forum STILL doesn't get one simple fact.

If core systems are done well, writing is good, world feels authentic, art direction is good, story is good etc., it won't matter whether combat is TB or RTwP. It's a non-issue.

 

[Glop_dweller]

I'm shocked that 99% of this forum STILL doesn't get one simple fact.

If core systems are done well, writing is good, world feels authentic, art direction is good, story is good etc., it won't matter whether combat is TB or RTwP. It's a non-issue.

I disagree. Gameplay is paramount—period.

I don't much care for RTW/P gameplay—I don't hate it, but it's not my preference; I liked the BG series in spite of it. But when it comes to making a numbered franchise sequel there should be no debate. It MUST have the series combat mechanics as its foundation; and any embellishments to it must not do damage or detriment to the core system.

The one feature I would hope to have fixed in the RTW/P combat is to detect hits in realtime; and so prevent arrows from flying perpendicular arcs (at targets it has pre-decided were hit—but have since moved); and do the same for area effect spells & weapons—IE. don't damage a target running from a blast wave, who does make it to cover in time to avoid injury.

 

[luj1]

All I'm saying is that TB vs RTwP is the LEAST of my concerns. That alone won't make or break the game. I prefer TB but many great RPGs were RTwP.

 

[vortex]

Should skills have cooldowns like in DOS2 or vancian system ? Which is better?

 

[luj1]

Is that a rhetorical question?

 

[vortex]

Is that a rhetorical question?

No, straightforward one.

 

[M. AQVILA]

Doesn't matter, it will be shit regardless.

Why can't they just leave the classics alone?

 

[JarlFrank]

Should skills have cooldowns like in DOS2 or vancian system ? Which is better?

Let me just throw a quick look at which ruleset the game uses.

Ah yes. I think that answers the question.

 

[Ladonna]

I think the Goldbox games showed the way. And as Larian cannot into stories, I think that is their only hope this time around.

 

[the mole]

I'm shocked that 99% of this forum STILL doesn't get one simple fact.

If core systems are done well, writing is good, world feels authentic, art direction is good, story is good etc., it won't matter whether combat is TB or RTwP. It's a non-issue.

Reader

 

[zapotec]

Trans Based Combat

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

First or third person action combat a la Final Fantasy 15. First-person would be fine if they implement companions well. The limiting factors will be how well the RPG stat systems are integrated. As long as it's still about character stats I will be happy with whatever direction they choose.

 

[Darth Canoli]

All I'm saying is that TB vs RTwP is the LEAST of my concerns. That alone won't make or break the game. I prefer TB but many great RPGs were RTwP.

Many ? Like one ? (Planescape: Torment)

KotOR being action RPGs with an active pause and a very different gameplay than all those RTwP monstrosities.

Everything else is just mediocre at best, terrible gameplay dragging down everything that's remotely well designed.

 

[luj1]

You are retarded. Both KotORs, both NwNs, every WotC CRPG made in the last 20 years (including Baldurs Gate and Icewind Dale), Darklands, PST...

 

[Alphard]

No reason to keep the outdated combat systems like tb or rtwp. Make it a fun action combat game and many people will buy it. Prehistoric gamers wich refuse every innhovation after 2000 are a minority and shouldn't be pandered to

 

[Max Damage]

First half of the game will be action game, then second will be strategy game, the way Brutal Legend did it. This way you'll fully experience the progression from starting out solo to gathering full party to venture forth!

 

[Alphard]

First half of the game will be action game, then second will be strategy game, the way Brutal Legend did it. This way you'll fully experience the progression from starting out solo to gathering full party to venture forth!

So the more you progress the more the game goes backward. Nice

 

[Galdred]

Party based? Check.
Presumably related to existing PnP ruleset (this being not the way to do cRPGs (TM) doesn't really matter here)? Check.
No prior existing records of RTWP being ever done competently by anyone? Check.
Larian being sort of competent at TB systems (fuck-ups aside)? Check.

Conclusion? Duh.

You meant by RPG developers, because it sure works in FTL, 7.62 and Shogun Total War.

Not that it changes the fact TB would certainly work better for BG3.

 

[luj1]

First half of the game will be action game, then second will be strategy game

So like Pathfinder: Kingmaker?

 

[Trashos]

They should do what they are inspired to do, and fucking FOcUS on it (no, encounter design that works for one mode does not work for the other equally well), and do a great job. I did not see such an option in the poll.

They choose TB? Design the fucking encounters around TB. They should be fun to play when TB.

They choose RTwP? Design the encounters around RTwP. Make absolutely sure they are fun when played as RTwP.

But don't fucking mix them up. IF you do mix them up and fail, I will be dancing on your grave.

 

[Serus]

You are retarded. Both KotORs, both NwNs, every WotC CRPG made in the last 20 years (including Baldurs Gate and Icewind Dale), Darklands, PST...

Yes, and most (all?) of the above have shit combat. Quod erat...