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[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

cuckdex upset that one of the best turn-based crpgs ever is popular because they hate popular things due to being hipsters

You know, bantering aside I hope you are just joking and you are not retarded to the point of assuming that only because someone criticizes something Larian does (or did) that means they must hate their guts and want to see them fail. Or that they are "bitter" about their games being popular.

Hell, I like their games myself (otherwise I wouldn't bother being here talking about them) but that doesn't mean each one of them doesn't have at least a half dozen of questionable choices that make we wish I could slap some designer into a trauma-induced coma.

 

[Cryomancer]

dark souls isn't even an rpg, case in point

So you hate only cuz is popular. Your hipster. huehuehue

so it is easy to explain how with less backers they somehow reached a higher amount of money

Nope. The reason is quite different. People who like modern style of RPG's already have 1688468461653481563156486 games to chose from. People who like BG style of RPG's has .... Only few ones to chose from. In the case of the JRPG, you have the suikuden dev promissing a demand which nobody is satisfying and in the case of Pillars, the big Obsidian name. What I really hate about JRPG's, is that they often limit everything cool to your enemies.

But you are right that KS is not a good metric. If I use KS as a metric, KoTC2 would't be the masterpiece that it is.

 

[underground nymph]

I hope you are just joking and you are not retarded

Indeed allowing the though that someone can be this retarded is very uncomfortable.

But you are right that KS is not a good metric.

Hence your argument is shit.

 

[Anonona]

Nope. The reason is quite different. People who like modern style of RPG's already have 1688468461653481563156486 games to chose from. People who like BG style of RPG's has .... Only few ones to chose from.

Not really, unless you mix MMORPGs, and "hybrids" like Shooter-rpgs, action-rpgs and the like. Just write RPG on Steam's search bar and you can see what I mean. RPGs in general are not really that common. It is almost a fucking miracle that D:OS 2 is as popular as it is, really. I say multiplayer probably is a big reason why. Though I do agree that the success of PF is due to filling a specific niche of consumers and they do a very well job at satisfying them.

But you are right that KS is not a good metric. If I use KS as a metric, KoTC2 would't be the masterpiece that it is.

Yeah, that's what I meant. Good games are good regardless of popularity.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

So you hate only cuz is popular.

I never said I hated it, I said it's not an RPG ergo it makes perfect sense that cuckdex would vote for it in a list of best RPGs. They also adore things like visual novels.

 

[Cryomancer]

Not really, unless you mix MMORPGs, and "hybrids" like Shooter-rpgs, action-rpgs and the like.

In general, action games sells more, hence many RPG franchises become each new iteration more "action" and less "rpg"(not saying that both are exclusive, you can have a rpg heavy action heavy dungeon crawling). The most iconic examples of this are the Elder Scrolls franchise, each new elder scrolls game = less rpg since daggerfall. Even jrpg's are becoming more action, see ff7 remake.

I don't like Larian games however, I an glad that they re popularized the turn based style. IS thanks to then that we can play Wrath and Kingmaker on turn based mode.

Anyway, is Interesting to see how Wrath and Eiyuden uses different gameplay gifs to attract backers. Completely different games.

very short gifs from KS page

 

[Ontopoly]

Not really, unless you mix MMORPGs, and "hybrids" like Shooter-rpgs, action-rpgs and the like.

In general, action games sells more, hence many RPG franchises become each new iteration more "action" and less "rpg"(not saying that both are exclusive, you can have a rpg heavy action heavy dungeon crawling). The most iconic examples of this are the Elder Scrolls franchise. Even jrpg's are becoming more action, see ff7 remake.

I don't like Larian games however, I an glad that they re popularized the turn based style. IS thanks to then that we can play Wrath and Kingmaker on turn based mode.

Anyway, is Interesting to see how Wrath and Eiyuden uses different gameplay gifs to attract backers. Completely different games.

very short gifs from KS page

I'm surprised how much that jrpg got funded considering they didn't show any gameplay. That short video doesn't seem like real gameplay. There was no time to give inputs, it was just a video. I would need to see something more to kickstart a game.

 

[fantadomat]

This thread is amazing,nobody is talking about the game,pure incline. It is either banter between haters and disgusting lariantards or talking about other games. It is like General gaming shitposting thread.

 

[Swen]

Meanwhile Larian just announced on twitter a new studio: Larian Barcelona.
It's their SEVENTH studio.

Yeah, I don't even want to hear arguments about how tight they may be on the budget.

swen's 4 year old game is still the most popular RPG on steam

Fcking brutal, codex plebs being owned 24/7.

Ontoposh*t and Fanta on suicide watch.

 

[Shrimp]

This thread is amazing,nobody is talking about the game,pure incline. It is either banter between haters and disgusting lariantards or talking about other games. It is like General gaming shitposting thread.

Because there's literally nothing to talk about related to the game. If there's some random topic you'd like to pretend to discuss then chances are it already has been covered. If you want to talk about news about the game then you are in bad luck because there aren't any news lol

 

[fantadomat]

This thread is amazing,nobody is talking about the game,pure incline. It is either banter between haters and disgusting lariantards or talking about other games. It is like General gaming shitposting thread.

Because there's literally nothing to talk about related to the game. If there's some random topic you'd like to pretend to discuss then chances are it already has been covered. If you want to talk about news about the game then you are in bad luck because there aren't any news lol

We should talk about swen's gay lifestyle and debate who is the daddy in his relationship with rusty. Is rusty strikes me more of a bottom than a top,but swen likes to be more aggressive when bantering,so maybe he is also a bottom.

 

[Cryomancer]

This thread is amazing,nobody is talking about the game,pure incline. It is either banter between haters and disgusting lariantards or talking about other games. It is like General gaming shitposting thread.

BG3 has a lot of flaws. The discussion is : which one is the worst? I an in seriously doubt among hp bloat or Astarion. I can't decide which one is the worst.

I'm surprised how much that jrpg got funded considering they didn't show any gameplay. That short video doesn't seem like real gameplay. There was no time to give inputs, it was just a video. I would need to see something more to kickstart a game.

Yep. Solasta is the best example of KS project done right. They showed a demo before even asking for money. IMO all gaming projects should require at least a downloadable tech demo or previous games made. This is not a harsh requirement. A investor or a publisher would ask for far more before giving founds.

 

[fantadomat]

BG3 has a lot of flaws. The discussion is : which one is the worst? I an in seriously doubt among hp bloat or Astarion. I can't decide which one is the worse.

HP bloat obviously,you could kill swen....astarion early on.

 

[fantadomat]

This one is for you two love birds.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

BG3 has a lot of flaws. The discussion is : which one is the worst? I an in seriously doubt among hp bloat or Astarion. I can't decide which one is the worse.

Oh, that's an easy one: the worst offender is the idiotic control scheme, by a wide margin.

 

[Shrimp]

BG3 has a lot of flaws. The discussion is : which one is the worst? I an in seriously doubt among hp bloat or Astarion. I can't decide which one is the worse.

Oh, that's an easy one: the worst offender is the idiotic control scheme, by a wide margin.

Yeah, it's not even up for discussion. The chain controls are genuinely shit and I cannot fathom why they insist on having them in all of their games.

 

[The_Mask]

The chain controls are genuinely shit and I cannot fathom why they insist on having them in all of their games.

They're... linked... to the games. *snicker*

 

[Fedora Master]

This thread is amazing,nobody is talking about the game,pure incline. It is either banter between haters and disgusting lariantards or talking about other games. It is like General gaming shitposting thread.

Because there's literally nothing to talk about related to the game. If there's some random topic you'd like to pretend to discuss then chances are it already has been covered. If you want to talk about news about the game then you are in bad luck because there aren't any news lol

That's why other places, even 4ch, tend to lock threads until there's something actually worthwhile to post about. And I don't mean the n-th funny meme post by the devs.

 

[Cryomancer]

This thread is amazing,nobody is talking about the game,pure incline. It is either banter between haters and disgusting lariantards or talking about other games. It is like General gaming shitposting thread.

Because there's literally nothing to talk about related to the game. If there's some random topic you'd like to pretend to discuss then chances are it already has been covered. If you want to talk about news about the game then you are in bad luck because there aren't any news lol

That's why other places, even 4ch, tend to lock threads until there's something actually worthwhile to post about. And I don't mean the n-th funny meme post by the devs.

But Fanta has a point. We can discuss thousands of possible builds with only the base classes of PF:WoTR, but what to discuss about BG3? We already talked a lot about lv 4 arch druids, astarion, hp bloat, barrelmancy to kill a red dragon dealing fire damage, etc. And Larian is not bringing anything new.

And honestly, I would only recommend BG3 to Wizard haters. Larian dev in a interviwer "on lv 11 you get to cast op spells like disintegrate" (which is nothing compared to 2E spell, in fact, the CR 4 spider boss could probably soak 2 disintegration beams and walk as if it is nothing, from able to reduce dragons to ashes to unable to kill a spider and Larian thinks that it is OP). This while WoTR will offer AoE OHK on failed save spells and lichdoom. And Knights of the Chalice 2 too. I only recommend BG3 for the guys who hate magic users and don't wanna to play a game without magic like KDC or M&B which are much better RPG's.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

This thread is amazing,nobody is talking about the game,pure incline. It is either banter between haters and disgusting lariantards or talking about other games. It is like General gaming shitposting thread.

Because there's literally nothing to talk about related to the game. If there's some random topic you'd like to pretend to discuss then chances are it already has been covered. If you want to talk about news about the game then you are in bad luck because there aren't any news lol

That's why other places, even 4ch, tend to lock threads until there's something actually worthwhile to post about. And I don't mean the n-th funny meme post by the devs.

But Fanta has a point. We can discuss thousands of possible builds with only the base classes of PF:WoTR, but what to discuss about BG3? We already talked a lot about lv 4 arch druids, astarion, hp bloat, barrelmancy to kill a red dragon dealing fire damage, etc. And Larian is not bringing anything new.

And honestly, I would only recommend BG3 to Wizard haters. Larian dev in a interviwer "on lv 11 you get to cast op spells like disintegrate" (which is nothing compared to 2E spell, in fact, the CR 4 spider boss could probably soak 2 disintegration beams and walk as if it is nothing, from able to reduce dragons to ashes to unable to kill a spider and Larian thinks that it is OP). This while WoTR will offer AoE OHK on failed save spells and lichdoom. And Knights of the Chalice 2 too. I only recommend BG3 for the guys who hate magic users and don't wanna to play a game without magic like KDC or M&B which are much better RPG's.

If wotr was limited to level 4 then I don't think there would be much discussion in that thread either.

 

[Cryomancer]

too much quotes

This thread is amazing,nobody is talking about the game,pure incline. It is either banter between haters and disgusting lariantards or talking about other games. It is like General gaming shitposting thread.

Because there's literally nothing to talk about related to the game. If there's some random topic you'd like to pretend to discuss then chances are it already has been covered. If you want to talk about news about the game then you are in bad luck because there aren't any news lol

That's why other places, even 4ch, tend to lock threads until there's something actually worthwhile to post about. And I don't mean the n-th funny meme post by the devs.

But Fanta has a point. We can discuss thousands of possible builds with only the base classes of PF:WoTR, but what to discuss about BG3? We already talked a lot about lv 4 arch druids, astarion, hp bloat, barrelmancy to kill a red dragon dealing fire damage, etc. And Larian is not bringing anything new.

And honestly, I would only recommend BG3 to Wizard haters. Larian dev in a interviwer "on lv 11 you get to cast op spells like disintegrate" (which is nothing compared to 2E spell, in fact, the CR 4 spider boss could probably soak 2 disintegration beams and walk as if it is nothing, from able to reduce dragons to ashes to unable to kill a spider and Larian thinks that it is OP). This while WoTR will offer AoE OHK on failed save spells and lichdoom. And Knights of the Chalice 2 too. I only recommend BG3 for the guys who hate magic users and don't wanna to play a game without magic like KDC or M&B which are much better RPG's.

[/spoiler]
If wotr was limited to level 4 then I don't think there would be much discussion in that thread either.

OwlCat would never limit you to lv 4 in a game. Hell, after the chapter 1, playing with a small party I was at lv 8. I got tier 9 spells on beta which is only up to ch 4 and was one stage bellow lichdoom(mythic rank = 5). Note that BG3 early access launched much earlier than Wrath beta. Other thing which makes OwlCat > Larian.

Swen : "spell slots aren't intuitive"
OwlCat : "Pick this two spellbooks on the vancian magical system. Manage spell memorization, caster level, spell penetration, concentration, etc; for two classes, one leveling with XP and other with milestone leveling which has a separated system with unique feats. And here is a pet unique for your class where you can customize and level up as any character"

My last moment playing the beta

Was my first time playing the game, that build isn't optimal, I would have chose other feats, mainly the abundant spell casting. But here is, Lv 17 Wizard/10 Lich on a beta.

 

[underground nymph]

This thread is amazing,nobody is talking about the game,pure incline. It is either banter between haters and disgusting lariantards or talking about other games. It is like General gaming shitposting thread.

Because there's literally nothing to talk about related to the game. If there's some random topic you'd like to pretend to discuss then chances are it already has been covered. If you want to talk about news about the game then you are in bad luck because there aren't any news lol

We should talk about swen's gay lifestyle and debate who is the daddy in his relationship with rusty. Is rusty strikes me more of a bottom than a top,but swen likes to be more aggressive when bantering,so maybe he is also a bottom.

Fanta are you gay?

 

[fantadomat]

This thread is amazing,nobody is talking about the game,pure incline. It is either banter between haters and disgusting lariantards or talking about other games. It is like General gaming shitposting thread.

Because there's literally nothing to talk about related to the game. If there's some random topic you'd like to pretend to discuss then chances are it already has been covered. If you want to talk about news about the game then you are in bad luck because there aren't any news lol

We should talk about swen's gay lifestyle and debate who is the daddy in his relationship with rusty. Is rusty strikes me more of a bottom than a top,but swen likes to be more aggressive when bantering,so maybe he is also a bottom.

Fanta are you gay?

Nah,but the codex is legit gay site,so i just get on with the flow.

 

[Reinhardt]

Nearly two decades since Morrowind proved a truly open world DnD game is possible

Morrowind is not dnd, it's shitty looking oblivion.

 

[Reinhardt]

There was no time to give inputs

Have you heard about this new fad called turned based rpg games?