Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[unseeingeye]

You don't have to. It's just my baseline for how I think a DnD computer product should feel like.

I bought a copy of Chalice 2 but haven't loaded it up yet. Between it, Grimoire and Kenshi I've got a bunch lined up to experience. I haven't even finished the first one but I do wish they retained the graphics and overall presentation of it in the new one.

 

[Pink Eye]

there's no they. it's just a single guy working on it. hence on the concessions pierre had to make on the game.

 

[unseeingeye]

there's no they. it's just a single guy working on it. hence on the concessions pierre had to make on the game.

Right, I did know that but wasn't thinking. I actually forgot it was even coming out and had been away from gaming for a few months so when I saw it on GOG I grabbed it immediately.

 

[Pink Eye]

There's going to be some interesting content in store for the game. Plus he's going to buff a couple classes. Then there's modules that he promised he'll get done in the upcoming months. As well as more feats too. So if you don't play it now. There'll be good content waiting once you eventually get to it.

 

[unseeingeye]

There's going to be some interesting content in store for the game. Plus he's going to buff a couple classes. Then there's upcoming modules that he promised he'll get done in the upcoming months. As well as more feats too. So if you don't play it now. There'll be good content once you eventually get to it.

Awesome! Not to piss anyone off who enjoys or looks forward to BG3 being up in the thread, but it is reassuring to know that despite D&D games heading into a direction far away from the Gold Box roots catering to a different audience, there are still some games out there devoted to recreating the earlier ruleset experiences.

 

[Pink Eye]

Not to piss anyone off who enjoys or looks forward to BG3 being up in the thread

This is Codex, friendo. Pissing people off is the entire shtick of the site =)

 

[Gargaune]

I like to do at least one playthrough in each new patch and try to report bugs that I encounter so the devs can fix it.

Yeah, maybe stick to Colony Ship then, I don't think Larian's looking for player feedback. Call it a hunch.

 

[mediocrepoet]

What made you refund this game anyway?

Cause it feels like a downgrade to Chalice 2.

All credit to Pierre for KotC 1&2 but they aren't even the same sort of game and the goals and target audience are completely different.

BG3 is a more narrative driven game like the first two and is trying to bring in a reasonably accurate version of the 5E ruleset just as the first two did with 2E back in the day.

KotC 1&2 use Pierre's homebrew versions of 3E and are basically a series of combat encounters with little in the way of plot or non-combat mechanics.

It's almost bizarre to compare them if you ask me. It's like saying you refunded Resident Evil: Village because you prefer the features in Minecraft.

 

[Swen]

What made you refund this game anyway?

Cause it feels like a downgrade to Chalice 2. Chalice 2 features:
- Mage Transformations
- Monk; which will soon get reworked to have cool buffs and some class kits
- Good Enemy AI that will challenge you tactically
- Best implementation of DnD ruleset, with modifications by Pierre (some of the modifications are actually great quality of life changes), which adheres to the ruleset as faithfully as it can.
- Module Editor so you can create your own content
- Lots and lots of feats
- level cap beyond 20
- Hand crafted encounters that are made to challenge you and make you think
- Lots of cool classes
- Complete in-game database that is super easy to access and use
- Fluid Hotkey system that makes playing the game feel natural, playing the game feels like water cause of how smooth the experience is
- Pierre is also constantly updating the game while adding new things

Baldur's Gate 3 on the other hand required me to mod my favorite class just so I can enjoy the game. So that's a fail on the game

LMFAO, imagine unironically playing and liking this MsDOS looking trash in the year of our lord 2022

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1233530/Knights_of_the_Chalice_2/

Remind this french cuck called "Pierre" that I'm the king of Crpg's.

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

What made you refund this game anyway?

Cause it feels like a downgrade to Chalice 2.

All credit to Pierre for KotC 1&2 but they aren't even the same sort of game and the goals and target audience are completely different.

BG3 is a more narrative driven game like the first two and is trying to bring in a reasonably accurate version of the 5E ruleset just as the first two did with 2E back in the day.

Not an excuse for Trash combat and garbage controls. Even PS:T has better gameplay than DOS3 and the same control scheme as BG1+2, IWD1+2, and it was a narrative based game. BG1 alone had way better gameplay than this trash.

KotC 1&2 use Pierre's homebrew versions of 3E and are basically a series of combat encounters with little in the way of plot or non-combat mechanics.

I don't remember Barrelmancy or the excess of groundfire effects being in 5e last time I checked. I also don't remember the ruleset for lifting objects (such as those pertaining to barrelmancy) being anything close to the way they're represented here.

 

[Cryomancer]

What made you refund this game anyway?

Cause it feels like a downgrade to Chalice 2. Chalice 2 features:
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Baldur's Gate 3 on the other hand required me to mod my favorite class just so I can enjoy the game. So that's a fail on the game

Yep. KoTC2 is a masterpiece. They are the closest thing to a modern Dark Sun : Shattered Lands + Wake of the Ravager.

KotC 1&2 use Pierre's homebrew versions of 3E and are basically a series of combat encounters with little in the way of plot or non-combat mechanics.

To be fair, both games are completely different with completely different target audience. Pierre is aiming in the early 90s RPG fans. Larian is aiming at the Bioware crowd. I disagree with your analogy with RE/Minecraft cuz we are talking about two games which are D&D adaptations. A better analogy would be project CARS and Mario Kart, both are technically racing games and both have completely different target audience.

imagine unironically playing and liking this MsDOS looking trash in the year of our lord 2022

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1233530/Knights_of_the_Chalice_2/

Remind this french cuck called "Pierre" that I'm the king of Crpg's.

DOS RPGs are more immersive than modern RPGs.

Also, if you wanna play D&D CRPG's in more ""exotic"" settings like Dark Sun or Ravenloft, you need to play this Strategic Simulations/Dreamforge games.

PS : Swen is only the king of MODERN rpgs.

BG1 alone had way better gameplay than this trash.

DOS era games which Swen keep criticizing has better gameplay than DOS3 Faerun Edition.

 

[Pink Eye]

, I don't think Larian's looking for player feedback

Yeah, I know. That's why I stay away from big games. When it comes to giving feedback or sending bug reports. I kind of learned this lesson from Owlcat.

It's almost bizarre to compare them if you ask me

Not really, but you're entitled to your opinion.

 

[mediocrepoet]

KotC 1&2 use Pierre's homebrew versions of 3E and are basically a series of combat encounters with little in the way of plot or non-combat mechanics.

To be fair, both games are completely different with completely different target audience. Pierre is aiming in the early 90s RPG fans. Larian is aiming at the Bioware crowd. I disagree with your analogy with RE/Minecraft cuz we are talking about two games which are D&D adaptations. A better analogy would be project CARS and Mario Kart, both are technically racing games and both have completely different target audience.

So what you're saying is that two video games focusing on different market segments that have some but not a lot of overlap is better defined by your analogy, but not the original one which said the same thing? Got it. You really gave me a lot to think about.

 

[Fedora Master]

Over 600 pages and no significant development.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Over 600 pages and no significant development.

They never expected so many people to buy the EA, it's not a representation of the current state of the game.
inb4
"f-f-fake news!"
DOS2 EA didn't even get a single update after it released.

 

[Fedora Master]

Over 600 pages and no significant development.

They never expected so many people to buy the EA, it's not a representation of the current state of the game.
inb4
"f-f-fake news!"
DOS2 EA didn't even get a single update after it released.

Who gives a shit

 

[mediocrepoet]

I dream of a day that Retard Master will post on a gaming thread to contribute something instead of just complaining that threads exist and that people post in them.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

plz no bully Fedora Master

(And he's a quality contributor to the Screenshots thread if nothing else.)

 

[Tavernking]

'Swarm AI' is nothing new right? Didn't Temple of Elemental Evil do it 20 years ago? They're just taking something old and putting a fancy title on it lol. It's not exactly groundbreaking, I've considered doing it in my own crappy games

 

[Cryomancer]

'Swarm AI' is nothing new right? Didn't Temple of Elemental Evil do it 20 years ago? They're just taking something old and putting a fancy title on it lol. It's not exactly groundbreaking, I've considered doing it in my own crappy games

Be glad that Larian is copying ToEE instead of modern RPGs...

 

[Swen]

'Swarm AI' is nothing new right? Didn't Temple of Elemental Evil do it 20 years ago? They're just taking something old and putting a fancy title on it lol. It's not exactly groundbreaking, I've considered doing it in my own crappy games

Everything Larian does is ground breaking, please don't take away the credits of this amazing studio. Swarm AI is a brand new idea that literally nobody else thought about before.

 

[Mojobeard]

Do the new facial animations look weird to anyone else? They're constantly doing these just, odd grimaces, overacting. I remember them looking better before.

 

[underground nymph]

so i have to be careful what i spend my time on

Proceeds posting on Codex

 

[underground nymph]

Over 600 pages and no significant development.

No posts of a value from you too tho

 

[underground nymph]

Do the new facial animations look weird to anyone else? They're constantly doing these just, odd grimaces, overacting. I remember them looking better before.

Fully isometric mod will fix it