Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[rusty_shackleford]

Facial animations "looking weird" is a bug I hope, as they stood out as significantly good when I played it.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Was Sven making fun of DOS games?

 

[Popiel]

I was today years old when I finally did some reading on original BG3 project and its plot: am I the weird one or is the premise much more interesting than MUH ZANY RANDOM HIGH FANTASY FLYING NAUTILOIDS shit Swen is throwing at us? The Black Hound sounds like a grounded, down-to-earth story with nice symbolism and great potential.

 

[Curratum]

Nothing further, your Honor.

 

[underground nymph]

Nothing further, your Honor.

 

[Pink Eye]

that first trailer where flaming fist guard turned into a mindflayer was so cool

 

[Incendax]

AH SERVE THE FLAMING FIST!!

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Out of boredom with how little they introduced in the updates of the vanilla game, yesterday I started to fool around with some mods.

I installed some stuff that added more levels, more spells, revamped a couple of classes and added a subclass in particular (Hexblade).
I have to say I'm impressed. I never touched this stuff so far because I expected for it to be in a much rougher state, but in reality most of it already feels almost impossible to tell apart from the native content.
Not even sure what parts of this additional content are datamined and what are custom made, so far.

If this is the level that can be achieved now with an almost complete lack of dedicate tools, it bodes reasonably well for the future.

Still, please, for the love of god (or whatever other fictional entity you are into), I know that expecting some modder to remove the toilet chain is just asking too much, but can someone come up with a way to change the stupid default formation?
I hate that default wide pyramidal formation with fierce passion.

 

[Reinhardt]

I installed some stuff that added more levels, more spells

more porn?

 

[Abu Antar]

Are your characters always tied together, or does it work like in the DOS games?

 

[Pink Eye]

I installed some stuff that added more levels, more spells

more porn?

hot lesbian porn

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Are your characters always tied together, or does it work like in the DOS games?

What's the question, exactly?
They are tied by the "chain system" (aka "toilet chain") by default, but you have a hotkey that breaks the link and make them stand on the spot until you move each one manually.

 

[Abu Antar]

Are your characters always tied together, or does it work like in the DOS games?

What's the question, exactly?
They are tied by the "chain system" (aka "toilet chain") by default, but you have a hotkey that breaks the link and make them stand on the spot until you move each one manually.

Okay, like in DOS.

 

[Gargaune]

Still, please, for the love of god (or whatever other fictional entity you are into), I know that expecting some modder to remove the toilet chain is just asking too much, but can someone come up with a way to change the stupid default formation?
I have that default wide pyramidal formation with fierce passion.

Unlikely, that would actually be asking more than for a mod to remove the toilet chain.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Still, please, for the love of god (or whatever other fictional entity you are into), I know that expecting some modder to remove the toilet chain is just asking too much, but can someone come up with a way to change the stupid default formation?
I have that default wide pyramidal formation with fierce passion.

Unlikely, that would actually be asking more than for a mod to remove the toilet chain.

Why, are you aware of someone who tried and found it to be hard-coded or something?

 

[Gargaune]

Why, are you aware of someone who tried and found it to be hard-coded or something?

No, I'm just making an educated guess. The way the game determines companion positions relative to the current leader will fall under AI routines and, especially since there's no player input in this regard, is quite likely to be hardcoded in engine functionality. With the Toilet Chain, you have a prayer that maybe, just maybe, a modder will be able get his grubby little hands in the GUI listeners, but this other one seems like a very long shot.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Why, are you aware of someone who tried and found it to be hard-coded or something?

No, I'm just making an educated guess. The way the game determines companion positions relative to the current leader will fall under AI routines and, especially since there's no player input in this regard, is quite likely to be hardcoded in engine functionality. With the Toilet Chain, you have a prayer that maybe, just maybe, a modder will be able get his grubby little hands in the GUI listeners, but this other one seems like a very long shot.

It's not really a "dynamic AI" type of thing. They tend to assume a fixed position near your character that for all intents and purposes is a good old formation (and then move around a lot as soon as you click or target something, because LARIAN).

But as far as formations go it's a shitty one. By default with 4 character it's basically a tilted square, rhombus, diamond or whatever you want to call it.
Then as you add more characters (currently only through modding) you start to see the pyramidal (or triangular) pattern becoming more obvious:

Here's a screenshot:

 

[Reinhardt]

even victor is not as boring as this "chain" shit

 

[gurugeorge]

Why, are you aware of someone who tried and found it to be hard-coded or something?

No, I'm just making an educated guess. The way the game determines companion positions relative to the current leader will fall under AI routines and, especially since there's no player input in this regard, is quite likely to be hardcoded in engine functionality. With the Toilet Chain, you have a prayer that maybe, just maybe, a modder will be able get his grubby little hands in the GUI listeners, but this other one seems like a very long shot.

It's not really a "dynamic AI" type of thing. They tend to assume a fixed position near your character that for all intents and purposes is a good old formation (and then move around a lot as soon as you click or target something, because LARIAN).

But as far as formations go it's a shitty one. By default with 4 character it's basically a tilted square, rhombus, diamond or whatever you want to call it.
Then as you add more characters (currently only through modding) you start to see the pyramidal (or triangular) pattern becoming more obvious:

Here's a screenshot:

From that picture, there seems to be no relation between the distance from the PC on the toilet chain and the depth they stand in the formation - IOW, it doesn't look like it's possible to ensure your squishies are more to the back just by positioning them on the toilet chain. Is that true, or is there some way of ensuring a meatshield->squishy formation?

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

even victor is not as boring as this "chain" shit

That’s not even the topic.
We are talking about the default (and so far unchangeable) formation.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

From that picture, there seems to be no relation between the distance from the PC on the toilet chain and the depth they stand in the formation - IOW, it doesn't look like it's possible to ensure your squishies are more to the back just by positioning them on the toilet chain. Is that true, or is there some way of ensuring a meatshield->squishy formation?

You can rearrange the order of portraits, but it's basically pointless, since...
- The way they position in the formation has no logic correlation to where in the order of portraits you put them (i.e. I put Gale, the mage, on the botton and he's still right behind my playable character in the formation).
- As soon as you ungroup/regroup for whatever reason, the order of portraits rearranges basically randomly (not exactly, as there IS a criterium about it - the one you are controlling is dragged on the top - but still, not something you can have a direct control over).

 

[gurugeorge]

From that picture, there seems to be no relation between the distance from the PC on the toilet chain and the depth they stand in the formation - IOW, it doesn't look like it's possible to ensure your squishies are more to the back just by positioning them on the toilet chain. Is that true, or is there some way of ensuring a meatshield->squishy formation?

You can rearrange the order of portraits, but it's basically pointless, since...
- The way they position in the formation has no logic correlation to where in the order of portraits you put them (i.e. I put Gale, the mage, on the botton and he's still right behind my playable character in the formation).
- As soon as you ungroup/regroup for whatever reason, the order of portraits rearranges basically randomly (not exactly, as there IS a criterium about it - the one you are controlling is dragged on the top - but still, not something you can have a direct control over).

That's very disappointing and annoying I loathe that kind of randomness.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Hey Reinhardt , imagine being able to do this:

 

[Trithne]

The portraits have this "Russian X-Com clone" energy to them. They also look like the character is getting their licence photo taken.

Even Battletech managed to at least give their 3d portraits some character.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

The portraits have this "Russian X-Com clone" energy to them. They also look like the character is getting their licence photo taken.

Even Battletech managed to at least give their 3d portraits some character.

Not that I'm THAT invested in this specific topic, but there are plenty of "AI generators" that can do pretty damn convincing RPG portraits these days, starting from basic descriptions ,reference pictures or whatever else.
I wonder when we'll see some developers making use of this type of stuff in a game with a large quantity of characters (or maybe even with infinite generated ones).