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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 is Trash

Drakortha

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I can understand how a game can be entirely shit but still get overwhelming praise from mainstream audiences and even win 'GOTY'. But how is it that this pile of shit gets a free pass on the codex?

The whole game from top to bottom is an asset flip. Larian has to be the laziest developer in existence. It has no world map that expands upon the scale of the world because they couldn't be bothered designing a map travel system from the ground up, since they didn't have these elements to pull from Original Sin. All previous BG games had map travel, POE had it, Pathfinder, etc. What's their excuse?

It's got the same linear level design from past Larian games where exploration means choosing which road to walk down and which 'encounter' to be shoehorned into. There's no actual world exploration or freedom in BG3. Instead, you are just presented with endless roads that lead directly to one amusement or another.

The combat is the worst implementation of turn based combat I've ever seen in a game. Absolutely banal from start to finish.

The writing is dogshit. There's no reason to want to do anything or care about anyone in this garbage rendition of the DnD universe. You're given some bullshit about a tadpole and then you're set off to roam around and they expect you to care about this trite. But the side quests are the worst offenders and amount to nothing more than amusements or stupid jokes. Is BG3 an RPG or a fucking theme park? There's no coherence or world building whatsoever. I thought Fallout 4's Commonwealth was pretty bad but BG3 takes the cake.

Abhorrent camera, graphics, and controls. The view distance is so bad it's a wonder they even allowed a pseudo 3rd person camera option. Your character constantly runs into invisible objects that are strewn across the ground everywhere. For example; some pebbles on the ground have a 1m collision box around it. It's the worst collision work I've ever seen in a game.

No day/night cycles or any means of measuring time. Yet the geniuses at Larian still opted to include time-sensitive quests and locations. Once again, there's no cohesion at all about what's even going on in this world, when, or why.

I could keep going. I wish I could put how I feel about this game in only a few words but nothing I can come up with does it justice. All I can say is Baldur's Gate 3 is the worst RPG I've ever played in my life and it's not even close. It's a game that pretends to be an epic adventure with it's flashy cutscenes and animations, yet it is lacking in pretty much every other important aspect that makes a good RPG. It must look impressive to someone new to the genre, because that's the only explanation I have as to why this pile of shit got the praise that it did.
 
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Drakortha

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Baldur's Gate 3 is the worst RPG I've ever played in my life and it's not even close
You haven't played NWN, uh? Lucky bastard.
Did NWN win GOTY and was endlessly praised as the saviour of gaming?

BG3 being as garbage as it is and receiving acclaim is just a lot worse than any comparable shit out there. It exemplifies everything that's wrong with culture right now. It is style over substance.
 
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Are you aware that Codex elected Jagged Alliance 3 (which, IIRC, isn't even in the grpg subforum) as GOTY over BG3?

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I wasn't aware. However, there is a 46 page thread sperging about pronouns in Avowed when BG3 already did it first. And within that very same thread posters defended BG3 by claiming 'but BG3 is a good game, which makes up for it.'

I'm just trying to set the record straight. Baldur's Gate 3 is objectively an obscene piece of garbage, and it was exactly that years before Veilguard or Avowed appeared on the scene.
 
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Zed Duke of Banville

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I could keep going. I wish I could put how I feel about this game in only a few words but nothing I can come up with does it justice. All I can say is Baldur's Gate 3 is the worst RPG I've ever played in my life and it's not even close. It's a game that pretends to be an epic adventure with it's flashy cutscenes and animations, yet it is lacking in pretty much every other important aspect that makes a good RPG. It must look impressive to someone new to the genre, because that's the only explanation I have as to why this pile of shit got the praise that it did.
And yet Baldur's Gate 3 still has far better gameplay than BG1&2.
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Are you aware that Codex elected Jagged Alliance 3 (which, IIRC, isn't even in the grpg subforum) as GOTY over BG3?

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ShiningSoldier

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I don't think it's an "utter trash". but I agree that it's a bad game with a very weak writing, lazy implemented companions interaction, cringe villains and extremely boring final act.
 

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Wasn’t Drakortha the guy who had an absolute banger of a meltdown in the early access thread spamming incoherent posts about how bg3 was the biggest betrayal since Judas because of… day/night cycles?
 

Drakortha

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And yet Baldur's Gate 3 still has far better gameplay than BG1&2.
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Please explain to me how the gameplay is better than BG1&2? If you mean the combat, at least those games allow you to set it to easy so you can breeze through it quickly and get back to the story. And as old and dated as the combat in those games is it is nowhere near as aggravating to deal with as BG3's combat, which you are forced to slog through every encounter no matter how small it is.

As for the rest of the gameplay you are completely wrong. BG1&2 has a beautiful UI that is a joy to use, an overworld map for travel that gives a feeling of scale and adventure, far better music and art direction. The list goes on. For it's time it was a grand adventure. The most BG3 can do is give you the fake illusion you are on a big adventure when in reality you're walking around a theme park filled with self contained amusements that don't lead anywhere or are cohesive in any way. BG3's 'gameplay' is utterly shit.
 

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Wasn’t Drakortha the guy who had an absolute banger of a meltdown in the early access thread spamming incoherent posts about how bg3 was the biggest betrayal since Judas because of… day/night cycles?
I didn't have a meltdown, I was already pissed off after seeing the initial gameplay reveal of BG3 where Swen demonstrated barrelmancy to an audience with a round of applause. And then I had to watch as half the Codex sucked Larian's dick for months on end. I called it out as being an Divinity asset flip since the very beginning and I was right. BG3 remains the biggest travesty in gaming. I don't think anything will ever top it. Larian took a beloved IP and made an insulting imitation worse than I could ever imagine.
 

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It was :-D

Drakortha said:
Thanks for proving my point, you dumb cunt. You don't CARE so long as the memes keep flowing, right? That's all this game is now. A fucking meme. If that constitutes success in your point of view, I don't know what to tell you, other than FUCK YOU for helping enabling this shit with your insipid taste for games and consuming and praising whatever shit is popular and trending at the current moment. It's fucks like you that killed BG3 before it even had a chance to be the faithful sequel the fans deserve. Get cancer and fucking die.

Drakortha in July 2023 said:
Don't worry about it, once BG3 finally releases I'll be gone and so will many others. We were only in here to gawk and laugh at the entire situation.

Oh, the carefree laughter of wishing cancer on random strangers. Grand old times! :love:
 

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I agree the game really needed an overworld map and travel system, everything feels so claustrophobic. Imagine actually having to locate the hidden creche and it was like travelling to the cyclops lich dungeon in Kingmaker
 

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We should nominate Swen for the most butthurt reward. Did you see him on stage stuttering about how mean publishers are to him and how he can't work on BG3 for a day longer because he and his team are burned out from shoveling shit all day? I've never seen a more pathetic display from a game dev. He looked like he was going to burst into tears. What a fucking failure of a company Larian is. It's clear they couldn't finish the game, so what does Swen do? He gets up on stage and scapegoats the publishers so that he and Larian won't get flack from it's thousands of fans for leaving them with an unfinished turd. The fact nobody bats an eye about this, yet are having a meltdown over a twitter post from an Avowed developer says a lot about the culture right now.
 
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We should nominate Swen for the most butthurt reward. Did you see him on stage stuttering about how mean publishers are to him and how he can't work on BG3 for a day longer because he and his team are burned out from shoveling shit all day? I've never seen a more pathetic display. What a fucking failure of a company Larian is.
You should post more so people realize the extent of your dumbfuckery.
 

Drakortha

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We should nominate Swen for the most butthurt reward. Did you see him on stage stuttering about how mean publishers are to him and how he can't work on BG3 for a day longer because he and his team are burned out from shoveling shit all day? I've never seen a more pathetic display. What a fucking failure of a company Larian is.
You should post more so people realize the extent of your dumbfuckery.
Do you actually have anything at all to say about BG3 or Larian? Or are you just here to be my friend? Because I'm not interested, so fuck off.
 

Zboj Lamignat

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And yet Baldur's Gate 3 still has far better gameplay than BG1&2.
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Interesting! Did you have access to some super secret early betas where they experimented with the idea of crpg as looking at close ups of weirdly animated faces spouting shite for literally dozens of hours? That would be pretty novel for the time.
 

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