Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 is Trash

[mediocrepoet]

The problem is they see the cutscenes and the motion capture and they become encapsulated under a spell. Because that's what the entire budget of BG3 went into; cinematics, motion capture, and marketing.

All that stuff probably helped push it from niche audience to a breakout hit amongst the normies, but if there really was no gameplay substance or other redeeming features (like the writing and characters being bland and forgettable) it would have crashed and burned.

You're trying to use logic in a 'tard thread. Good luck.

 

[Drakortha]

The problem is they see the cutscenes and the motion capture and they become encapsulated under a spell. Because that's what the entire budget of BG3 went into; cinematics, motion capture, and marketing.

but if there really was no gameplay substance or other redeeming features (like the writing and characters being bland and forgettable) it would have crashed and burned.

Ah yes, the classic "everyone is praising it, it MUST have some redeeming qualities, right?"

We're talking about the games industry here. The same industry propped up by the success of games like Fortnight. Astro Bot won GOTY 2024 too, by the way. A game that blatently rips off Super Mario Sunshine. So I think it's safe to say that financial success and critical acclaim among normies cannot be used to measure quality.

 

[mediocrepoet]

The problem is they see the cutscenes and the motion capture and they become encapsulated under a spell. Because that's what the entire budget of BG3 went into; cinematics, motion capture, and marketing.

but if there really was no gameplay substance or other redeeming features (like the writing and characters being bland and forgettable) it would have crashed and burned.

Ah yes, the classic "everyone is praising it, it MUST have some redeeming qualities, right?"

We're talking about the games industry here. The same industry propped up by the success of games like Fortnight. Astro Bot won GOTY 2024 too, by the way. A game that blatently rips off Super Mario Sunshine. So I think it's safe to say that financial success and critical acclaim among normies cannot be used to measure quality.

Did you play it? Was it good? Why or why not?

No? Just a fart huffing trend chaser trying to score some cheap KKK with the same sad overused NPC rhetoric others of your ilk have spouted since before BG3 even released in EA?

Get some new material. Get a life.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

And yet Baldur's Gate 3 still has far better gameplay than BG1&2.

Please explain to me how the gameplay is better than BG1&2? If you mean the combat, at least those games allow you to set it to easy so you can breeze through it quickly and get back to the story. And as old and dated as the combat in those games is it is nowhere near as aggravating to deal with as BG3's combat, which you are forced to slog through every encounter no matter how small it is.

RTS was not, and never will be, the new RPG.

 

[Skinwalker]

I think I've asked this before, but does BG3 have any connection to the baalspawn saga? Or Baldur's Gate (the city)?

 

[DemonKing]

I think I've asked this before, but does BG3 have any connection to the baalspawn saga? Or Baldur's Gate (the city)?

The third act is in Baldur's Gate and there are tons of references to the previous games/baalspawn.

 

[Skinwalker]

there are tons of references to the previous games/baalspawn

But are they relevant to the plot, or just "remember this?! I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!!"

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I think I've asked this before, but does BG3 have any connection to the baalspawn saga? Or Baldur's Gate (the city)?

Aside from the third act taking place almost entirely in (or around the immediate outskirts of) Baldur's Gate, the main storyline involves a plot by the three deities (Bane, Myrkul, and Bhaal) who were removed in the idiotic Time of Troubles adventure modules and novels from 1989, who are now attempting to resurrect themselves via champions, one of whom is defeated at the end of Act II, and the other two of whom are defeated at the end of questlines in Act III.

Just as the player can choose to be one of the companions, with that companion's background story and side-quests included, there's also an optional "Dark Urge" background for a customized protagonist which links in with Bhaal specifically and the Act III questline involving Bhaal's chosen.

 

[Litmanen]

Even The Outer Worlds is more competently made.

So, either you are a low level troll or you are utterly stupid.

Or maybe both.

 

[Litmanen]

BG3 takes a few characters/elements from the originals but is very much it's own beast otherwise. Given the over 20 year gap between the release of 2 & 3 it's not like the majority of the audience would even have much idea what the originals were anyway.

The audience shouldn't need to know the originals to know that BG3 is trash. The problem is they see the cutscenes and the motion capture and they become encapsulated under a spell. Because that's what the entire budget of BG3 went into; cinematics, motion capture, and marketing.

I find cutscenes and full VO in Baldur's Gate absolutely annoying.

But it stays the magnificent game it is.

 

[Drakortha]

Even The Outer Worlds is more competently made.

So, either you are a low level troll or you are utterly stupid.

Or maybe both.

Alright dumbcunt, explain how the first area in BG3 does worldbuilding better than Edgewater in TOW? I'm waiting.

"DERP, u see, in bolDurs Gayte iTs gOt tEEflings anD ders some hooomans. AnD ders a GoBBo caMp. Annd der GObLIn waNts u to kIss hiS Foot! Hahaha! ANd ders a tRoLL haVin sEx. WoW magNificent gaYme! aNd ur wroNg coz aNGry jOe gavE it a 10/10 AnD a badASS seel of aprOoovAl!

 

[NaturallyCarnivorousSheep]

After putting hundreds of hours into DOS:2 there came a point where I never wanted to play it again. Larian following up DOS:2 with another swords & sorcery fantasy setting using similar mechanics, visual style, and tone, gave me a massive case of fatigue. It all contributed towards the perception this was just a reskin with Larian's trademark zaniness now seeming out of place (some might counter by mentioning a certain cursed girdle as if it encapsulates the entire franchise, but a few silly interactions in a massive adventure does not put BG1 & 2 on the same level as BG3). If I hadn't played DOS:2 so extensively then I might have a very different opinion.

If anything this is part of a greater trend of making d&d and fantasy in general quirky chungus. Like a lot of the "mishandling of BG lore" people complain about are just Larian following on 2008 novel that covered that.

BG3 is not better than Dragon Age: Origins

Ah yes. Dragon Age Origins. A game that was liked solely because it released when there were no other games like it for years at that point. A game with 3 classes where 2 of them play virtually the same. A game with cooldown system inspired by WoW. See, this is the problem I have with cuckdex. 0 ability to distance yourself from the topic before making an opinion.

 

[Drakortha]

BG3 is not better than Dragon Age: Origins

Ah yes. Dragon Age Origins. A game that was liked solely because it released when there were no other games like it for years at that point. A game with 3 classes where 2 of them play virtually the same. A game with cooldown system inspired by WoW. See, this is the problem I have with cuckdex. 0 ability to distance yourself from the topic before making an opinion.

So you think BG3 is better because it has more classes and races and no cooldown system? Forget the insipid writing and nonsensical world, you can play as a trans she-orc. It's only bad when Obsidian or Bioware does it!

 

[HumanTotemPole]

Man you raved about day/night cycles for like 150 pages with no end. Absolute legend

A poster with some potential for sure

 

[mondblut]

BG3 takes a few characters/elements from the originals but is very much it's own beast otherwise. Given the over 20 year gap between the release of 2 & 3 it's not like the majority of the audience would even have much idea what the originals were anyway.

They heard of "herp derp go for teh eyes boooo". That's all they needed to know.

 

[Nano]

Get some new material. Get a life.

Ironic coming from the guy who joined 15 years ago and still comes here every day to randomly and passive-aggressively tell people to fuck off.

 

[Nano]

If you're fanboying over any currentyear game whatsoever, you're beyond hope. The world is undergoing a rapid cultural decline and the same goes for our entertainment.

 

[ShiningSoldier]

For me the worst thing in BG3 is villains. If a story doesn't have a cool villain, it sucks. Here we have: an anime-looking guy that acts like he's a ruler of the city; a wannabe deadite from the "Evil Dead" franchise; and, of course, Ketheric Thorm - the worst among them, because it looks like they tried to write a dramatic story for him, but failed miserably.

 

[NaturallyCarnivorousSheep]

BG3 is not better than Dragon Age: Origins

Ah yes. Dragon Age Origins. A game that was liked solely because it released when there were no other games like it for years at that point. A game with 3 classes where 2 of them play virtually the same. A game with cooldown system inspired by WoW. See, this is the problem I have with cuckdex. 0 ability to distance yourself from the topic before making an opinion.

So you think BG3 is better because it has more classes and races and no cooldown system? Forget the insipid writing and nonsensical world, you can play as a trans she-orc. It's only bad when Obsidian or Bioware does it!

Meds.

 

[Hydro]

There’s no Baldur’s Gate 3

 

[NJClaw]

For me the worst thing in BG3 is villains. If a story doesn't have a cool villain, it sucks. Here we have: an anime-looking guy that acts like he's a ruler of the city; a wannabe deadite from the "Evil Dead" franchise; and, of course, Ketheric Thorm - the worst among them, because it looks like they tried to write a dramatic story for him, but failed miserably.

Sir, please refrain from sharing actual meaningful criticism of BG3 in this thread. You're derailing it.

 

[Hydro]

I think I've asked this before, but does BG3 have any connection to the baalspawn saga? Or Baldur's Gate (the city)?

In the same way the Vault Boy has something to do with the original game. On the surface it’s a recognizable part of the original, albeit stripped of its meaning being rather a marketing tool.

Both the city and the baalspawn saga are here only to justify the title. Plot wise any connections to the original however thin and needless they are only further worsen the convoluted mess of a story this game has.

 

[Swen]

Love that BG3 is now the new official gold standard for rpg's and codex can't do anything about it besides cope and seethe.

 

[Litmanen]

Even The Outer Worlds is more competently made.

So, either you are a low level troll or you are utterly stupid.

Or maybe both.

Alright dumbcunt, explain how the first area in BG3 does worldbuilding better than Edgewater in TOW? I'm waiting.

"DERP, u see, in bolDurs Gayte iTs gOt tEEflings anD ders some hooomans. AnD ders a GoBBo caMp. Annd der GObLIn waNts u to kIss hiS Foot! Hahaha! ANd ders a tRoLL haVin sEx. WoW magNificent gaYme! aNd ur wroNg coz aNGry jOe gavE it a 10/10 AnD a badASS seel of aprOoovAl!

Every single thing you’ve said is simply stupid. The Outer Worlds, as much as I loved Obsidian’s games before FNV, is one of the dumbest, flattest, most idiotic games I’ve ever played. 'Oh no, the evil factory and the exploited workers. Whose side should I pick?' There isn’t a shred of worldbuilding. It’s one of the most useless, clichéd, and bland stories in existence. There’s no gray area, no logic in anything that happens. The quests in The Outer Worlds, starting with the one where you’re given the spaceship ('Are you my captain? I can only take orders from my captain. Oh, you’re not my captain? Then I’ll follow your orders.') HOW THE HELL DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE, YOU IDIOTIC MORON? And that’s one of the better ones.

The game is just super colorful, with a pleasant-looking setting, but everything about it is absolutely idiotic. Like that other quest with the missing girl, where the reasons and the place to find her are LITERALLY written on a note on her bedside table in plain sight as soon as you enter her house.

Baldur’s Gate 3 isn’t a perfect game, but it does everything better than The Outer Worlds not just once, but a hundred times over.

Anyway, in case I haven’t made myself clear: you’re an idiot.