Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[vortex]

It's fine if they refine D:OS. It's not fine if they try to go Dragon age or nu-X-COM route. Let Dragon age be Dragon age and nu-X-COM be nu-X-COM.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

So this will probably be a Larian game set in the Baldur's Gate timeline,

 

[Infinitron]

BG1 and BG2's fanbase is small, and very cynical and bitter. Targeting them will result in a bad commercial product. Not all of them will buy, many will trash it, and there aren't that many potential costumers to begin with.
Divinity currently has a larger fanbase than Baldur's Gate, and more motivated to buy and forgive mistakes. Less cynical. So this will probably be a Larian game set in the Baldur's Gate timeline, rather than a Baldur's Gate game. So to speak.

This is probably true, but "Larian game" doesn't necessarily mean "Divinity Original Sin clone". When this game was announced, I suggested that Swen might be aiming to use it to develop the technology for Larian's next generation of homegrown IPs, including the long-awaited sequel to Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Until some actual footage is released, we can only speculate. Only thing certain is that it won't be no Baldur's Gate 2+1.

 

[agris]

BG1 and BG2's fanbase is small, and very cynical and bitter. Targeting them will result in a bad commercial product. Not all of them will buy, many will trash it, and there aren't that many potential costumers to begin with.
Divinity currently has a larger fanbase than Baldur's Gate, and more motivated to buy and forgive mistakes. Less cynical. So this will probably be a Larian game set in the Baldur's Gate timeline, rather than a Baldur's Gate game. So to speak.

This is probably true, but "Larian game" doesn't necessarily mean "Divinity Original Sin clone". When this game was announced, I suggested that Swen might be aiming to use it to develop the technology for Larian's next generation of homegrown IPs, including the long-awaited sequel to Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga.

...which is a TPP aRPG.

 

[Elex]

D&D 5e have a lot less magic item loot than older edition.

Attunement is the limit.
A character can be attuned to max 3 item.

A simple +1 weapon don’t require attunement.

but a vorpal or a flametounge yes.

a +1 armor: no attunment, a fire resistance armor require attunement.


Capes belts rings wandsetc etc are going to require attunement (unless it’s have a minor magical effect).

 

[whydoibother]

BG1 and BG2's fanbase is small, and very cynical and bitter. Targeting them will result in a bad commercial product. Not all of them will buy, many will trash it, and there aren't that many potential costumers to begin with.
Divinity currently has a larger fanbase than Baldur's Gate, and more motivated to buy and forgive mistakes. Less cynical. So this will probably be a Larian game set in the Baldur's Gate timeline, rather than a Baldur's Gate game. So to speak.

This is probably true, but "Larian game" doesn't necessarily mean "Divinity Original Sin clone". When this game was announced, I suggested that Swen might be aiming to use it to develop the technology for Larian's next generation of homegrown IPs, including the long-awaited sequel to Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga.

Swen isn't a heretic enough to make Baldur's Gate a third person action game. Especially since he negotiated a lot with Wizards, and ninja'd the project from Beamdog. To me it is obvious it will be a cRPG, with a party you control from above.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

I am feeling some Dark Alliance vibes here... By the way BG: DA is pure incline when compared to Diablo 3 and other more recent looters.

 

[Infinitron]

Swen isn't a heretic enough to make Baldur's Gate a third person action game. Especially since he negotiated a lot with Wizards, and ninja'd the project from Beamdog. To me it is obvious it will be a cRPG, with a party you control from above.

Sure, and it's also obvious that if Larian ever make a sequel to Divinity 2, it will have to incorporate elements from the Original Sin series as well.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

D&D 5e have a lot less magic item loot than older edition.

Attunement is the limit.
A character can be attuned to max 3 item.

A simple +1 weapon don’t require attunement.

but a vorpal or a flametounge yes.

a +1 armor: no attunment, a fire resistance armor require attunement.


Capes belts rings wandsetc etc are going to require attunement (unless it’s have a minor magical effect).

Jesus....

 

[Elex]

The hard part of 5e is adapting to the lower numbers.

at lvl 1 a fighter with 16 str have a +5 to hit. (unless you roll the stats and start with 18+2=20)

at lvl 20 with 20 str (the max for a character unless a barbarian or magical items) have +11 to hit.

also in 5e all bonus stack, so they have to limit the number of items you can use.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules/magic-items

 

[Darth Canoli]

Don't even know what attunement is.
Not that i want to ...

 

[Turuko]

ninja'd the project from Beamdog

cmon now

 

[fantadomat]

so is there gameplay out yet?

 

[Mazisky]

so is there gameplay out yet?

they said they'll show on 27th.

 

[Elex]

 

[vonAchdorf]

350 people is more than Bethesda throws at a game.

 

[Curratum]

Of course, everyone knows that the more people you throw at a game, the better it turns out!

Just look at CP 2077 and Star Citizen!

 

[Curratum]

Also, here's a note to the power-creep munchkins who are moaning at 5E's lower power level - fuck you.

 

[Mazisky]

350 people and high production values don't matter if you can't add day\night cycles and Npc schedules because "we feel there is no room for that", as happened with the most beloved high tier Divinity 1 e 2 Cprgs.

 

[Lady_Error]

From a business point of view, if even half of those 350 people work in-house, there has never been an isometric RPG with such a budget. So if they do that, they are certainly taking a risk.

The big budget "RPG's" are mostly third-person, though if they do something like a zoom-out to tactical perspective and turn-based combat - I guess that would be okay. And it's certainly something that no other big budget title has done so far.

 

[Gyor]

From a business point of view, if even half of those 350 people work in-house, there has never been an isometric RPG with such a budget. So if they do that, they are certainly taking a risk.

The big budget "RPG's" are mostly third-person, though if they do something like a zoom-out to tactical perspective and turn-based combat - I guess that would be okay. And it's certainly something that no other big budget title has done so far.

Over 200 are in house split between studios in Belgium, Ireland, Canada, Russia, and Malaysia, which allows them to be working on the game literally 24 hours a day.

 

[Infinitron]

More tweets from 1UP conference:

 

[Gyor]

From a business point of view, if even half of those 350 people work in-house, there has never been an isometric RPG with such a budget. So if they do that, they are certainly taking a risk.

The big budget "RPG's" are mostly third-person, though if they do something like a zoom-out to tactical perspective and turn-based combat - I guess that would be okay. And it's certainly something that no other big budget title has done so far.

From the video it still isometric game I think.

I'm curious how it will deal with gaming sets, we could have minigames in this.

 

[Harthwain]

Pretty fucking stupid if they won't get that BG1 and 2 are liked by the fanbase partially because of the itemization. One of the big reasons why I quit DOS 1 and never picked up the sequel is the retarded "MMO" loot, the itemization was even worse than Pillars of Eternity.

They could go the mixed route - have "common" items to be generated randomly, while having "set"/unique items to be hand-crafted and hand-placed (with the latter being far fewer than the former, of course).