Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Deleted Member 22431]

The ongoing meltdown on the Steam BG3 forums is hilarious. /popcorn

Not sure if trolling or brain damage (although it's Steamcommunity, so probably both).

The butthurt will be glorious.

 

[Riddler]

oh well it's actually in the Dungeon master guide page 270.

Side Initiative

Recording initiative for each PC and monster, arranging everyone in the correct order, and remembering where you are in the list can bog the game down. If you want quicker combats, at the risk of those combats becoming unbalanced, try using the side initiative rule.
Under this variant, the players roll a d20 for their initiative as a group, or side. You also roll a d20. Neither roll receives any modifiers. Whoever rolls highest wins initiative. In case of a tie, keep rerolling until the tie is broken.
When it's a side's turn, the members of that side can act in any order they choose. Once everyone on the side has taken a turn, the other side goes. A round ends when both sides have completed their turns.
If more than two sides take part in a battle, each side rolls for initiative. Sides act from the highest roll to lowest. Combat continues in the initiative order until the battle is complete.
This variant encourages teamwork and makes your life as a DM easier, since you can more easily coordinate monsters. On the downside, the side that wins initiative can gang up on enemies and take them out before they have a chance to act.

So we solve an issue that no-one had (in crpgs) in a way that destroys the balance for anyone not terminally retarded? Where have we seen something like this before? Oh that's right, in Larian previous game with their armour system!

Say what you will but Larian but they seem determined to stay on brand not only in the "humour" department.

 

[Dramart]

The ongoing meltdown on the Steam BG3 forums is hilarious. /popcorn

Ok, now i am properly fucking butthurt.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1086940/discussions/0/1750150007019243913/

These games were not ever praised for there gameplay mechanics they were praised because of the incredibly deep and interesting stories and choices you could make from a role playing perspective.Thats what makes Baldurs Gate, Planescape, Neverwinter, and all these old cRPGs so memorable. The idea that it was the RTwP combat is not only nonsensical but a flat out fabrication created by a bunch of intellectually vapid nerds who refuse to move of from a nostalgic time they hold in high regards.

A lot of people is triggered. That nerd calling others nerds. This is a war of nerds, rpg nerds.

 

[rhollis]

I don't even want to see Larian's 3D rendition of Minsc.

Larian confirmed all companions are romanceable. If Minsc makes it in I expect everyone will hold them to that. Poor boo.

 

[Hamster]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1086940/discussions/0/1750150007023908567/

Characters shouldn't be able to jump around like kangaroos in a middle of a fight.

I think they said the tadpole is enhancing your jumping capabilities just like how it allowed that vampire guy to be out in the sun.

Looks like we are witnessing birth of a new rpg meme - "tadpole did it"

 

[Hamster]

I don't even want to see Larian's 3D rendition of Minsc.

Larian confirmed all companions are romanceable. If Minsc makes it in I expect everyone will hold them to that. Poor boo.

Oh fuck, i never thought about it until now.

 

[Hamster]

The ongoing meltdown on the Steam BG3 forums is hilarious. /popcorn

Not sure if trolling or brain damage (although it's Steamcommunity, so probably both).

That man has good points.

" Bad made realistic graphic"

But it's true tho

No, seriously, just look at this. Larians's incompetent art direction was not that big of a problem in DOS's top down view, it actually kinda complemented overall silly tone of those games. But here, in "cinematic" first person, it looks cringy as fuck and has strong uncanny valley vibes. Gives me Oblivion flashbacks.

 

[rhollis]

Wasn't there a rumor going about that Larian was going to retcon it as him being petrified for all this time?

My point was that nobody spends a century adventuring. Retcons are possible, but most probably everyone from the original cast is either dead or has moved on to a different occupation.

Any companions belonging to long-lived races (e.g., Aerie) could be around and doing their own thing. You could round them up like a heist movie montage and convince them to join you. It would be corny as hell but not sure why that would stop Larian.

 

[mondblut]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1086940/discussions/0/1750150007023908567/

Characters shouldn't be able to jump around like kangaroos in a middle of a fight.

I think they said the tadpole is enhancing your jumping capabilities just like how it allowed that vampire guy to be out in the sun.

Looks like we are witnessing birth of a new rpg meme - "tadpole did it"

What a convenient premise, allowing to handwave any retarded shit developers come up with in order to impress plebs.

Too bad it stays retarded nonetheless.

 

[Fedora Master]

I don't see the problem with those screens other than the dialogue.
Also: [ELF]

 

[NJClaw]

D:OS1 is per-unit, not team-based. It still has the same issue because you could stack it to effectively go first every fight.

Shit, I despised that game so much that I cant remember anything.

But if that's the case, why would they go for a "party initiative" in BG3?

They are after the "very young children" and "completely brain-dead" demographics.

Disgusting pedophiles

 

[FranticDistortion]

I like what we are getting. I love Larian, Baldur's Gate, D&D and Turn-based combat. I like that devs are making their own story, instead of feeding off of nostalgia like Star Wars and most modern remake culture. Combat looks fun and faithful to the ruleset, without forgetting that it's not a tabletop game. Story set-up sounds interesting and companions don't make me want to kill them outright(except that dirty bloodsucker). Cinematics look junky but that will be fixed.
Overly bright visuals and quantity/quality of humor is my only concern.
I have confidence that this will turn out to be, at least, a very fun time. Larian seem to care about making a good game instead of shitting trash out and profiting off of it's name like Dungeon Siege 3, DA:I or Andromeda.

 

[FranticDistortion]

The ongoing meltdown on the Steam BG3 forums is hilarious. /popcorn

Not sure if trolling or brain damage (although it's Steamcommunity, so probably both).

That man has good points.

" Bad made realistic graphic"

But it's true tho

No, seriously, just look at this. Larians's incompetent art direction was not that big of a problem in DOS's top down view, it actually kinda complemented overall silly tone of those games. But here, in "cinematic" first person, it looks cringy as fuck and has strong uncanny valley vibes. Gives me Oblivion flashbacks.

Being ugly is their racial feature, so I don't see a problem. Humans look fine.

 

[prodigydancer]

The butthurt will be glorious.

The only problem is that nostalgia, stupidity and ADHD are a pretty bad mix. History teaches us that this rabid crowd will never get over it. They're going to whine everywhere endlessly, start idiotic petitions, tank Metacritic ratings, etc.

Poor Larian. Maybe they should've named the game something else - just to shield themselves from this spampede of muppets.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Poor Larian. Maybe they should've called the games something else

Something like Divinity: Original Sin 3, which it actually is?

 

[NJClaw]

I am gonna cum

It's a pre-alpha, dude.

As to music, I always turn it off. The only exception was Shadowrun Dragonfall.

When I play IWD and IWD2 I can hear the music even if it's turned off.

 

[NJClaw]

The butthurt will be glorious.

The only problem is that nostalgia, stupidity and ADHD are a pretty bad mix. History teaches us that this rabid crowd will never get over it. They're going to while everywhere endlessly, start idiotic petitions, tank Metacritic ratings, etc.

Poor Larian. Maybe they should've named the game something else - just to shield themselves from this spampede of muppets.

When WotC gives you the rights to D&D you don't get to take all the decisions

 

[Hamster]

I don't see the problem with those screens other than the dialogue.
Also: [ELF]

Don't get me started on the fucking dialogue. At least with visuals it's entirely possible that derpy art direction will turn out to not be a problem. It happened to me with Nier: Automata, it looked like absolute cringe, but it started making a perverse kind of sense a few hours into the game.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

The butthurt will be glorious.

The only problem is that nostalgia, stupidity and ADHD are a pretty bad mix. History teaches us that this rabid crowd will never get over it. They're going to while everywhere endlessly, start idiotic petitions, tank Metacritic ratings, etc.

Poor Larian. Maybe they should've named the game something else - just to shield themselves from this spampede of muppets.

When WotC gives you the rights to D&D you don't get to take all the decisions

Aye, thus it can be inferred that Larian took these rights solely for the brand recognition. From the getgo, they had no intention of making it into anything other than a D:OS sequel.

 

[Hamster]

The ongoing meltdown on the Steam BG3 forums is hilarious. /popcorn

Not sure if trolling or brain damage (although it's Steamcommunity, so probably both).

That man has good points.

" Bad made realistic graphic"

But it's true tho

No, seriously, just look at this. Larians's incompetent art direction was not that big of a problem in DOS's top down view, it actually kinda complemented overall silly tone of those games. But here, in "cinematic" first person, it looks cringy as fuck and has strong uncanny valley vibes. Gives me Oblivion flashbacks.

Being ugly is their racial feature, so I don't see a problem. Humans look fine.

Bruh.

It's literally the face that never remembered.

 

[Fedora Master]

I played through DAI, I have plumbed the depths of the Uncanny Valley and become inured to its horrors.

 

[Lacrymas]

Mmm, I dunno, I kinda think she's cute. As for the gith, I think she's not gith enough, that nose is not gith-like.

 

[prodigydancer]

It's literally the face that never remembered.

Dude, you're trying to grasp at straws but there are no straws to grasp. As someone who's never quite forgiven CDPR for TW3 graphics downgrade, I tell you this: there's absolutely nothing wrong with the BG3 visuals even in the current pre-alpha state.

 

[Fedora Master]

I can tell what gender these characters are, that's far ahead of Bioware or any old JRPG.

 

[NJClaw]

It's literally the face that never remembered.

Dude, you're trying to grasp at straws but there are no straws to grasp. As someone who's never quite forgiven CDPR for TW3 graphics downgrade I tell you this: there's absolutely nothing wrong with the BG3 visuals even in the current pre-alpha state.

Absolutely nothing wrong? I don't see 2d pre-rendered hand-touched backgrounds, so it's all wrong