Game News Betrayal at Krondor on GoG

[Tails]

So, I downloaded this game from Abandonia just one month ago, when it was still warez abandonware & the IP owner didn't give a shit if the BaK was downloaded or not, until they signed a deal with GoG.

Fixed.

Proper fix, stop being so butthurt bro

 

[phanboy_iv]

So, I downloaded this game from Abandonia just one month ago, when it was still warez abandonware & the IP owner didn't give a shit if the BaK was downloaded or not, until they signed a deal with GoG.

Fixed.

Proper fix, stop being so butthurt bro

I'm not being butthurt, I'm nerdraging because I've nothing better to do.

 

[mondblut]

So... Is this game worth $6? Ignore the fact that it was once free.

Ask yourself whether setting up a dosbox shortcut is worth $6.

 

[Secretninja]

immense butthurt itt

 

[Gragt]

From all parties involved.

 

[Wyrmlord]

immense butthurt itt

Fuck off.

A game that was declared freeware by its very own makers is not something you appropriate and start selling for money, while telling others not have it for free download.

It's bullshit.

 

[Gragt]

That's true. Free stuff on the internet is a fundamental right on the same level as fish without bones.

 

[Wyrmlord]

That's true. Free stuff on the internet is a fundamental right on the same level as fish without bones.

There is no talk of fundamental right here; it's a shitty practice.

Nobody takes all the open source software on SourceForge, starts selling it on the market, and then forbids SourceForge from allowing the download of it.

 

[Brother None]

declared freeware by its very own makers

Source? And note the only one who can "declare" freeware are the rights holders (publishers), not the devs. So. Link?

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

Why do you guys care ? Don't tell me you didn't already have your own copy. It's been 17 years, FFS !

Why give a shit about future BaK sales ? The mere fact that BaK has a future should bring a single tear of hope, discreetly wiped behind your monocle, to your weary nerdraged eyes.

 

[FeelTheRads]

declared freeware by its very own makers

Source? And note the only one who can "declare" freeware are the rights holders (publishers), not the devs. So. Link?

Wyrmlord doesn't need sources. He just KNOWS.

So BaK was once offered as freeware, now it's sold. I assume GOG has obtained the rights to sell it from those who own it or those who own it wanted to sell it on GOG. What's there to argue here?

So, I downloaded this game from Abandonia just one month ago, when it was still free.

You don't seem to understand the concept of abandonware. Abandonware isn't supposed to be a cover for piracy. It's supposed to preserve old games that aren't sold anymore. If these games start selling again, then they're no longer abandonware. Very simple.

Plus, if you want it for free, torrent it. Abandonware isn't quite legal either. Just because some guys decide to offer it for free doesn't mean the game is actually free.

Also, the idea that some of these games are too old to pay money for them it's just fucking idiotic and a perfect motivation for abortion. Go pay 60 dollars or whatever for Ass Defect, I'm sure that's worth your money.

Finally, I'd never buy these games in their digital versions, because I like to have the physical ones. And GOG doesn't seem to do that great of a job with them either, I heard for example that the bug in Fallout 1 with the ending slides not having sound on new systems is not fixed. But the whole point is that the rightful owners of the games sell them and it's not me to decide whether they should sell them or not. Also GOG has free games on their site, games that were offered as free by their owners and have been left free.
Keep in mind that LucasArts still hasn't offered their old adventures for free and still sells them I think. Awful, isn't it?

 

[Grunker]

I didn't say anything about the concept - I just asked if it made me an evil swine?

 

[Sceptic]

Fuck off.

A game that was declared freeware by its very own makers is not something you appropriate and start selling for money, while telling others not have it for free download.

It's bullshit.

Yep, total bullshit. Especially since the makers had nothing to do with declaring it freeware (Dynamix were long gone by then). The copyright holder, Sierra at the time, declared very specifically that it was NOT freeware and that only they had the right to distribute it. Then they revoked this right, which is their right because they're the, you know, copyright holders. And now the current copyright holders want to sell it and make more money HOW DARE THEY!!!!!!1111one

Anyway moving away form the bullshit and on the more interesting bits.

If you have a low tolerance for digitized graphics, you'll hate it, you big stinky hater you. But! Look past the cheese and try to realize how awesome it was to see "real people" back in the 90s.

Never mind the graphics anyway. They're functional at best but they're not the game's primary strength.

While not written BY Raymond E. Feist, if memory serves, it's nevertheless a well written and interesting game.

It's better written than anything Feist has done, especially the novelization of the game which is pretty awful.

The 3D overworld map is filled with little towns and treasure chests

There are TONS of things hidden on world map. I think it took me until the 3rd or 4th run to find everything. Exploration is highly encouraged. Also, when your objective involves "go to point X", the shortest route may not necessarily be the best. Taking the long way round may give you some unique dialog and encouters.

The combat is interesting, too. It's sort of a semi-tactical, "Watch everyone run around at once" format, as opposed to the first person Wizardry view.

Combat is awesome. Third-person grid-based, very tactical, some VERY tough fights.

The only thing is, you can get stuck. Or at least I got stuck. I had this mission where I needed X gold, but I was either getting my butt whupped, or couldn't find enough fights/missions to earn the gold.

Odd. There are 2 spots where you need a specific amount of money and in both cases the same chapter has one specific quest (that you can't do in earlier chapters) that'll give you more money than you need. The only way to mess it up is to do the quest and get the money, waste it on buying crap, dropping the crap and waiting for it to vanish, then going to the point where you need money. Even then in the first case you only need 80 gold (chickenfeed) and in the 2nd case you need a lot more but it's fairly late in the game and you still have the obscene amounts of money you've been accumulating since the beginning.

 

[Grunker]

I wonder how many of you will defend Bioware or Ubisoft's games if they're put up on abandonware sites in 20 years or so.

 

[FeelTheRads]

I didn't say anything about the concept - I just asked if it made me an evil swine?

I'd say you were in the same limbo as others who download abandonware. However, if the game was specifically forbidden distribution by its owners then yeah, I guess you're a filthy evil swine.

I wonder how many of you will defend Bioware or Ubisoft's games if they're put up on abandonware sites in 20 years or so.

Yeah, will Wyrmlord cry when GOG will start selling Faggot Age after it was offered for free on abandonware sites? Good question.

 

[Wulfstand]

Sumbitch.
I just got off underground-gamer the cd version of BaK, which I've never tried out before (I've always played the floppy-disk version), and the damn thing just won't start. I installed it, mounted the cd with dosbox (for the music), but when I start the game the screen goes all black, and after a few seconds it closes itself.
I've tried running the floppy-disk version, and the game works a-ok. However, looking at both folders, the floppy version clearly has more files in it, which is p. strange. Can anyone help?

Also, here are my mounting instructions:
mount c e:\dosbox\krondor
imgmount d e:\krondor\krondor.cue -t iso
c:
Krondor

 

[SerratedBiz]

Gaming masterpieces such as BaK should not be sold or held away from the public; they should be proudly displayed upon monuments built from the recycled carcasses of inferior games' boxes and DVDs, distributed freely yet compulsively in the free network for the betterment of Man.

 

[Mattresses]

Sumbitch.
I just got off underground-gamer the cd version of BaK, which I've never tried out before (I've always played the floppy-disk version), and the damn thing just won't start. I installed it, mounted the cd with dosbox (for the music), but when I start the game the screen goes all black, and after a few seconds it closes itself.
I've tried running the floppy-disk version, and the game works a-ok. However, looking at both folders, the floppy version clearly has more files in it, which is p. strange. Can anyone help?

Also, here are my mounting instructions:
mount c e:\dosbox\krondor
imgmount d e:\krondor\krondor.cue -t iso
c:
Krondor

if you set 'waitonerror' to true in the config, it won't autoclose the window and you'll be able to read the resulting error.

 

[Tolknaz]

Nobody takes all the open source software on SourceForge, starts selling it on the market, and then forbids SourceForge from allowing the download of it.

Yes, since limited time freeware and opensource are TOTALLY the same thing! Does it hurt to be so stupid by the way?

 

[FeelTheRads]

Apparently retards of the Wyrmlord breed think GOG just goes on abandonware sites and says "LOL I TAEK THIS GAEM AND SEELL!!!"

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

Why do you guys care ? Don't tell me you didn't already have your own copy. It's been 17 years, FFS !

Why give a shit about future BaK sales ? The mere fact that BaK has a future should bring a single tear of hope, discreetly wiped behind your monocle, to your weary nerdraged eyes.

true, but do I need to uninstall all my oldgames.sk folder? Don't want to violate any rights etc...

 

[spekkio]

Well, you've described maGoG's business model pretty well actually, FeelTheRads.

 

[Wulfstand]

Sumbitch.
I just got off underground-gamer the cd version of BaK, which I've never tried out before (I've always played the floppy-disk version), and the damn thing just won't start. I installed it, mounted the cd with dosbox (for the music), but when I start the game the screen goes all black, and after a few seconds it closes itself.
I've tried running the floppy-disk version, and the game works a-ok. However, looking at both folders, the floppy version clearly has more files in it, which is p. strange. Can anyone help?

Also, here are my mounting instructions:
mount c e:\dosbox\krondor
imgmount d e:\krondor\krondor.cue -t iso
c:
Krondor

if you set 'waitonerror' to true in the config, it won't autoclose the window and you'll be able to read the resulting error.

It was set to true, and there was no error message. The screen simply goes black for a few seconds, after which it simply closes. I tried lowering the memsize to 16 (it was originally 64 for Shadows over Riva), but still, no dice.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

Why do you guys care ? Don't tell me you didn't already have your own copy. It's been 17 years, FFS !

Why give a shit about future BaK sales ? The mere fact that BaK has a future should bring a single tear of hope, discreetly wiped behind your monocle, to your weary nerdraged eyes.

true, but do I need to uninstall all my oldgames.sk folder? Don't want to violate any rights etc...

I say you take off and nuke the entire hard drive from orbit, that's the only way to be sure.

 

[spekkio]

Have you tried solutions written here, Wulfstand?