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Game News bitComposer issue official statement on Chaos Chronicles

Discussion in 'RPG Codex News & Content Comments' started by Infinitron, Aug 1, 2013.

  1. HobGoblin42 Self-Ejected Patron Developer

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    Most of the 'Chaos Chronicles' assets, source and content is still our property. And of course, our core engine and tools as well (I'd already started the development of those in 2005).
    And surely we will not stop making games. We still need to deliver a turn-based RPG to the grim Codex crowd if we don't want our souls be cursed.
     
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  2. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    Theoretically speaking, if a developer (not you) was in a similar situation, what would his options be?

    I guess, logically, nothing should stop said developer from taking the engine, the content, and the assets and making a slightly different game, sort of like PB did with Risen when they lost the rights to Gothic, without running into any legal issues. So can you walk us through and explain where the line is drawn?
     
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  3. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Lunatic Legends!
     
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  4. HobGoblin42 Self-Ejected Patron Developer

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    Theoretically answering, a developer should consult a good lawyer first. And then he should carefully exclude all parts whose rights doesn't belong to him.
     
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  5. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    Alrighty. Spiritual successor to Chaos Chronicles confirmed.
    Put it on Kickstarter, HobGoblin. I'll pay. :salute:
     
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  6. Stabwound Arcane

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    I know it's been said 100 times, and surely it's crossed your mind, but there's only one word that comes to mind when I read your post: kickstarter.
     
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  7. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Literally speaking you should go do that. 'Sanitize' your IP then do a Kickstarter. Stop chatting here and make it happen.
     
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  8. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite

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    From the makers of Jagged Alliance: Back in Action: Generic fantasy dungeon crawler.
     
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  9. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Also send the Codex review Steam key to me, thanks.
     
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  10. Jack Dandy Arcane

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    Well, at least I'm glad to hear you haven't given up entirely on the prospect of this kind of game.

    Do your best, Coreplay!
     
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  11. kaizoku Arcane

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    when the time finally comes you should name your TB firstborn... Codex Chronicles :martini:
     
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  12. DarkUnderlord Bringing that old Raptor magic.

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    Yeah, has anyone actually forgiven them for that atrocity? They'd probably need a decent downloadable demo - or at least a very, very good video.

    Can you say "lawsuit"? Especially if bitComposer already slapped an injunction on the game previously. I wonder if it wouldn't be better to restructure whatever was paid by bitComposer as debt and enter into an agreement to repay it - at which point it's in both parties interest to see Coreplay release a finished and successful product. Otherwise, I guess they can spend the money on legal fees.
     
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  13. Crooked Bee (no longer) a wide-wandering bee Patron

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    A fair number of Codexers will support a Chaos Chronicles: Reloaded kickstarter, that's for sure; but I'm not so sure about the rest of the internet.
     
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  14. Renegen Arcane

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    Goddammit why can't the incline come. :(
     
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    PRetY GraFiX.
     
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  16. Excidium P. banal

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    A lot of people want a new D&D CRPG. This is the closest it could get (and now it's dead).
     
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    Chaos Chronicles: Back In Action incoming!
     
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    Making a deal with bitComposer (and attending meetings) is always the best solution, but assuming that it's not possible, there should be a line drawn somewhere that would allow Coreplay to take their ball and go play with it elsewhere. I mean, they can't be sued for making any TB game now, can they?

    The game's using 3.5E Open Game Content, so bC can't lay any claim on it. The game has the standard races: humans, elves, dwarves, orcs, halflings, etc, so again, no claims there. So, really, all that bC can claim is the story, characters, specific locations, and assets for these locations. So, all that Coreplay needs to do is to forget about the undead theme and start from scratch.
     
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    A Kickstarter? Has Coreplay given any indication they are capable of proper financial management and honest and transparent communication with their fanbase? (two of the more important, if not the most important skills required to conduct a successful Kickstarter) From what I'm reading ITT, looks like they haven't.

    Don't get me wrong, I was naturally eagerly waiting for Chaos Chronicles' release, but it would suck even more if it ends up mirroring Double Fine's fiasco, especially because it would shatter whatever credibility the studio has left and probably the studio itself.
     
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    Good to hear:brodex:
     
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    'Cept it should be "gentle". :mad: Philistines.
     
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    I remember when Roguey embarrassed himself in the main CC thread months ago by taking Hobgoblin's joke about DRM literally in an attempt to attack the dev team. Dude must be pumped this project fell through roguey 1 coreplay 0 team sawyer 10,000+
     
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    Roguey's pumped about how much you people care about her.
     
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    Oh sorry forget I said anything
     
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