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MisterStone

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The justice system actually sounds kind of good, although the chances of it being non-buggy are almost nil. I haven't played any of the more recent 1st person RPGs, so I was wondering... do other RPGs have justice systems that are this sophisticated, or does stealing something basically just flip the kill switch on the back of their heads and cause them to rush you like a bunch of zombies?
 

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I'll go against my hobbit by stating that some of these points actually sound pretty good.
The reaction to theft sounds a little bit soft, but I approve of a more diverse reaction than "You stole me! I KEEL you!"
I also like using stimpacks on body parts. I feel it adds to believeability.
But let's not go overboard. There is also stuff that sounds a bit iffy - no aiming at body parts unarmed? I'd have made hitting arms easier, so you'd be more likely to break arms and disarm your opponents, while hitting the head would be hard but allow for a quick knock-out. It seems to me that would've added some depth, and they go the opposite route. Typically Bethesda, innit?
 

Herbert West

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But let's not go overboard. There is also stuff that sounds a bit iffy - no aiming at body parts unarmed? I'd have made hitting arms easier, so you'd be more likely to break arms and disarm your opponents, while hitting the head would be hard but allow for a quick knock-out. It seems to me that would've added some depth, and they go the opposite route. Typically Bethesda, innit?
That's probably due to their horrendous lack of proficiency with animations. I can just imagine aiming for the legs and seeing your character awkwardly flail his arms, as stiff as it were made of concrete, somewhere arround your oponent's ears... and scoring a critical hit on his leg nonetheless! Maybe there's only so much humiliation Beth animation team can take?
 

Elhoim

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Herbert West said:
But let's not go overboard. There is also stuff that sounds a bit iffy - no aiming at body parts unarmed? I'd have made hitting arms easier, so you'd be more likely to break arms and disarm your opponents, while hitting the head would be hard but allow for a quick knock-out. It seems to me that would've added some depth, and they go the opposite route. Typically Bethesda, innit?
That's probably due to their horrendous lack of proficiency with animations. I can just imagine aiming for the legs and seeing your character awkwardly flail his arms, as stiff as it were made of concrete, somewhere arround your oponent's ears... and scoring a critical hit on his leg nonetheless! Maybe there's only so much humiliation Beth animation team can take?

Yep, I'm sure that design decision was made due to the work to create slow-mo animations for melee attacks. Well, I would have certainly liked to do a punch like this one on a supermutant face:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leubfSMh6_Y
 

Erzherzog

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So what you're telling me is that a hooker in a post-apocalyptic world will turn down good money because she has morals?
:lol:
 

WhiskeyWolf

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Wolfenstein1942 said:
So what you're telling me is that a hooker in a post-apocalyptic world will turn down good money because she has morals?
:lol:
Not to mention she will turn down a good-looking male and I don't think there are may of them in the Wasteland.
 

WhiskeyWolf

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Slenkar said:
maybe the character gets older or later convinces her to put out?
- Captain! The Sarcasmo-meter doesn't show any readings!
- That's impossible...
 

hakuroshi

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MisterStone said:
The justice system actually sounds kind of good, although the chances of it being non-buggy are almost nil. I haven't played any of the more recent 1st person RPGs, so I was wondering... do other RPGs have justice systems that are this sophisticated, or does stealing something basically just flip the kill switch on the back of their heads and cause them to rush you like a bunch of zombies?

AFAIK only Gothic series has any hint on more sophisticated justice system. At least you didn't get killed for stealing an apple, just got beaten up.
 

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Wolfenstein1942 said:
So what you're telling me is that a hooker in a post-apocalyptic world will turn down good money because she has morals?
:lol:
Not to mention morals that didn't make alot of sense before the nuclear holocaust to begin with. The pc leaves at what age, nineteen? And life expectancy for surface dwellers is what?

The mind boggles.
 

Mareus

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I really doubt even Bethseda would be so dumb not to allow you to have sex with a hooker in post nuclear world. That would really be too dumb even for them. The player maybe just forgot to use admire, intimidate, joke and bribe on her.
 

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You have to play the persuasion minigame a few times to unlock the sex minigame.
 

abstract

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CD Action in not fellating a big title shocker (fyi Oblivion got 10/10 and BEST RPG EVAR or something like that)
 

Texas Red

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Claw said:
Wolfenstein1942 said:
So what you're telling me is that a hooker in a post-apocalyptic world will turn down good money because she has morals?
:lol:
Not to mention morals that didn't make alot of sense before the nuclear holocaust to begin with. The pc leaves at what age, nineteen? And life expectancy for surface dwellers is what?

The mind boggles.

FOblivion appears to be filled with such stupidity(shelter booths, gangs in vault).
 

WhiskeyWolf

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abstract said:
CD Action in not fellating a big title shocker (fyi Oblivion got 10/10 and BEST RPG EVAR or something like that)
I wouldn't be so sure of that.
 

Badgermaster

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Elhoim said:
There it said: "Need some <ahem> relief? The girl at the inn in Megaton can offer "special" services if you rent a room there. For a price, of course. A working girl's gotta earn a living. It's good for a quick health boost, I hear."

After the apocalypse, drinking out of toilets and nailing prostitutes will be the healthiest activities around.
 

Badgermaster

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In Springvale, the Sputnik Eyebot was hovering over the street, broadcasting a speech of the Enclave president

I guess borrowing the Gravity Gun from Valve wasn't enough. I wonder what other design elements from HL2 are going to show up in FO3.
 
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I think they are doing it to make something for the character to work towards,
its not realistic at all,
its...... like a challenge to the gamer to 'get the girl' even if she is a skank.
Its stupidly unrealistic but I know why they did it.
 

Nael

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Truth said:
* Megaton looks like a Wild West town. We have a good sheriff, and an evil saloon owner. The saloon has a prostitute, but she tells the player character that he's too young to use her services.
* Lots of blood and profanity. Body parts can be disintegrated or vaporized, depending on the weapon.

:salute: at Bethesda for creating an all-American game with all-American values.

Not that I give a shit about FO3, but the game is set in AMERICA you stupid fucking piece of Eurotrash.
 

Mareus

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The only thing this game needs to make it better is DRM copy protection. I sure hope they implement it.
 

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