CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[coldaqua]

but if this is realized through the mechanics they currently have, it's going to be an on-rails snoozefest worse than the original game's main questlilne.

Not necessarily. The base game already has a robust immersive sim base, it just depends on CDPR designing good missions around those features rather than making their typical "cinematic" vignettes.

 

[AwesomeButton]

but if this is realized through the mechanics they currently have, it's going to be an on-rails snoozefest worse than the original game's main questlilne.

Not necessarily. The base game already has a robust immersive sim base, it just depends on CDPR designing good missions around those features rather than making their typical "cinematic" vignettes.

The Arasaka compound was actually a well designed area. My problem with their design is they can't really afford the luxury to balance their missions around a player's abilities, because it's an open world. An immersive sim can't function well in an open world/"pseudo-RPG" for this very reason. You end up with a game where there is no challenge, the only agency left for the player is the "choice" in which particular fashion does he wish to be awesome this time.

 

[mediocrepoet]

but if this is realized through the mechanics they currently have, it's going to be an on-rails snoozefest worse than the original game's main questlilne.

Not necessarily. The base game already has a robust immersive sim base, it just depends on CDPR designing good missions around those features rather than making their typical "cinematic" vignettes.

The Arasaka compound was actually a well designed area. My problem with their design is they can't really afford the luxury to balance their missions around a player's abilities, because it's an open world. An immersive sim can't function well in an open world/"pseudo-RPG" for this very reason. You end up with a game where there is no challenge, the only agency left for the player to is the "choice" in which particular way does he wish to be awesome this time.

Well, I think this is overstated, but certainly it can't be done haphazardly, especially as you move away from the sort of fantasy RPG where you kind of expect it. Like a corp HQ is going to be harder to infiltrate than a slum apartment building, but you can only scale things so high with numbers, cyber, etc. before it gets stupid and breaks the setting. But you really could have higher and lower level zones and have that be consistent. There's a reason that runners don't normally go hot into the middle of a Corp zone unless they're thinking it will likely be a one way trip.

 

[Gargaune]

I'm going to buy it, so?

So am I, probably. I know what I'm getting by now, more of the same pretty-but-mediocre popamoler, minus the expectations.

The base game already has a robust immersive sim base

No, it really doesn't. The similarities are superficial, CBP's gameplay systems are highly isolated and prescriptive.

it just depends on CDPR designing good missions around those features rather than making their typical "cinematic" vignettes.

Here you are partly correct, there is a much better videogame somewhere in Cyberpunk 2077 that CDPR could bring to the fore if they just focused on making a game instead of a movie with clickable intermissions. It wouldn't be an immersive sim, but it would be something...

But there's another requirement that's part of that and that would be rolling a new low-level protagonist. CBP's progression system is an unmitigated clusterfuck, so to build better levels and encounters, CDPR would have to roll it back to get tighter control over its challenges. And you ain't getting that. It's V, it's gonna be level-scaled mid to high, so just make your peace that you're getting more of the same. If you're cool with that, great, if not, save your cash.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

 

[NecroLord]

So, is Sasha Grey still going to have her own radio station in this expansion?
I doubt it will reach the greatness of "The Deb of Night", but at least Sasha will absolutely impress us with her amazing "acting" skills, right?
Way to go CDPR.

 

[Caim]

So, is Sasha Grey still going to have her own radio station in this expansion?
I doubt it will reach the greatness of "The Deb of Night", but at least Sasha will absolutely impress us with her amazing "acting" skills, right?
Way to go CDPR.

Given the weird shit you can do with your genitals in Cyberpunk the setting's porn must be quite the sight indeed.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

So, is Sasha Grey still going to have her own radio station in this expansion?
I doubt it will reach the greatness of "The Deb of Night", but at least Sasha will absolutely impress us with her amazing "acting" skills, right?
Way to go CDPR.

Given the weird shit you can do with your genitals in Cyberpunk the setting's porn must be quite the sight indeed.

I would not be surprised if "thundercock" was more than a humorous and flattering epithet.

 

[AwesomeButton]

She is well-known for her performances that show unexpected depth.

 

[racofer]

She is well-known for her performances that show unexpected depth.

I'm certain Sasha will make us come around loving Cyberpunk.

 

[luj1]

C2077 had its next gen update in February, just curious can you still play the classic build?

 

[DeepOcean]

She is well-known for her performances that show unexpected depth.

I'm certain Sasha will make us come around loving Cyberpunk.

Well, she understand what being fucked hard feels like, so she has something in common with the average CDPR fan.

 

[Sykar]

I just found this, proper German autism!

 

[Frozen]

C2077......its next gen update....curious can you still play?

NO
.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

I'm going to buy it, so?

So am I, probably. I know what I'm getting by now, more of the same pretty-but-mediocre popamoler, minus the expectations.

The base game already has a robust immersive sim base

No, it really doesn't. The similarities are superficial, CBP's gameplay systems are highly isolated and prescriptive.

it just depends on CDPR designing good missions around those features rather than making their typical "cinematic" vignettes.

Here you are partly correct, there is a much better videogame somewhere in Cyberpunk 2077 that CDPR could bring to the fore if they just focused on making a game instead of a movie with clickable intermissions. It wouldn't be an immersive sim, but it would be something...

But there's another requirement that's part of that and that would be rolling a new low-level protagonist. CBP's progression system is an unmitigated clusterfuck, so to build better levels and encounters, CDPR would have to roll it back to get tighter control over its challenges. And you ain't getting that. It's V, it's gonna be level-scaled mid to high, so just make your peace that you're getting more of the same. If you're cool with that, great, if not, save your cash.

The much better game is called Metal Gear Soild V. CDPR just needs to take more stuff from that game...both in level design and gameplay. For something so inspired by MGSV, it's weird you can't do things like go prone, and use slight elevations in the environment to hide. It's also weird that the clear intent of missions in Cyberpunk 2077 was for the player to be able to go about them however they wished (like in MGSV) but the environments don't exactly leaned themselves to that. the worst little mission zone in MGSV was better than the best ones in 2077, this new expansion or whatever it is needs areas that are up to the best in MGSV.

Seems they could get around any balancing issues by having this new character played by Idris Elba be the playable character. You get a mission to do some thing as V, then V goes and recruits this new character that gets sent off to do this Escape from New York thing from the looks of it. Unless they've already said the whole of Phantom Liberty is played as V, it could be they are going to have you play as someone else. The most recent trailer with Elba kind of looks like they're introduceding a new playable character.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I watched some of MGSV on youtube, but I really lost the ability to follow the plot once the fire-breathing demon horses appeared.

 

[Tihskael]

I watched some of MGSV on youtube, but I really lost thhe ability to follow the plot once the fire-breathing demon horses appeared.

Don't worry. Kojima himself probably went through the same predicament. And if I were you, I wouldn't worry about the plot too much; it is all about the gameplay, you won't come across many games that do it better.

 

[Tihskael]

For this alone Kojima sits in the upper echelons of video game developers in my humble opinion.

 

[Caim]

I watched some of MGSV on youtube, but I really lost the ability to follow the plot once the fire-breathing demon horses appeared.

The long and short of it is that if we killed all cripples on sight the world would be a better place.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I watched some of MGSV on youtube, but I really lost the ability to follow the plot once the fire-breathing demon horses appeared.

The long and short of it is that if we killed all cripples on sight the world would be a better place.

That's... on point, actually.

 

[mediocrepoet]

For this alone Kojima sits in the upper echelons of video game developers in my humble opinion.

Pound Meat alt detected.

 

[compvet24]

Sliding around on a cardboard box through the sand was sick af

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Sliding around on a cardboard box through the sand was sick af

So was holding up enemies with a water pistol

 

[Clockwork Knight]

modders gonna mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/6825

This mod opens the V's Megablock Lower Market area for exploration and adds a recurring quest to the place.

The quest creates Access Point Jobs to reward you for your Perk Points.

As new points come in new jobs are added creating new reward opportunities - the more the merrier



This is a limited edition release: the mod site will go offline in about two weeks.

At first I thought that maybe the mod is a shoddy hack he's not super proud of and he would take it down to release a good version later, but the author's replies in the comments are straight out of a LostHisMarbles post.

For anyone who has any questions as to why you cannot enter the area or use this mod:

 

[AwesomeButton]

About half of the 70 posts are the mod author's sperging