Cheating is endemic in rpgs. Being forced not to reload puts you on disadvantage

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[aweigh]

muh bait

 

[Roguey]

No, FO 2. I beat FO 1 at least once. The timer never got me in FO 1. FO 2 every time, clearing content as I do and having to backtrack for quests. Do you skip content or not do it all?

You can finish everything in Fallout 2 way before the 13 year limit, you're doing something strange.

 

[Roqua]

No, FO 2. I beat FO 1 at least once. The timer never got me in FO 1. FO 2 every time, clearing content as I do and having to backtrack for quests. Do you skip content or not do it all?

You can finish everything in Fallout 2 way before the 13 year limit, you're doing something strange.

13 year limit by cheating? If you have a 13 year limit, you're doing something strange.

 

[Roguey]

13 year limit by cheating? If you have a 13 year limit, you're doing something strange.

The time limit in Fallout 2 is 13 years.

 

[Strange Fellow]

13 year limit by cheating? If you have a 13 year limit, you're doing something strange.

The time limit in Fallout 2 is 13 years.

And it also can't be extended, as far as I know, since it's literally a limitation of the engine. I'm not sure what you're on about, Roqua.

 

[Roqua]

13 year limit by cheating? If you have a 13 year limit, you're doing something strange.

The time limit in Fallout 2 is 13 years.

Is this true for getting the GECK? I get the dreams constantly with the guy harassing me. There is no time limit but a general 13 year time limit? I could have swore my game ended because of a time limit and not because I got bored. I highly doubt I spent 13 years dicking around each time. I clear content and only backtrack for quests.

 

[Strange Fellow]

I get the dreams constantly with the guy harassing me.

There are only three or four of those, and they're just for show.

 

[Roqua]

And it also can't be extended, as far as I know, since it's literally a limitation of the engine. I'm not sure what you're on about, Roqua.

Both big fan patches offer the ability to change time limits. That is 100% certain. I haven't played FO2 in a while, but I am almost certain it allows you to add or remove time, or have it reset the date. In FO1, which I have played in the last couple years, I know for certain it allows you to increase multiple time options, including mutant responses to cities.

 

[Roguey]

Is this true for getting the GECK? I get the dreams constantly with the guy harassing me. There is no time limit but a general 13 year time limit? I could have swore my game ended because of a time limit and not because I got bored. I highly doubt I spent 13 years dicking around each time. I clear content and only backtrack for quests.

There is no time limit because the limit(s) from the first one were incredibly divisive.

 

[Roqua]

Well, when I'm wrong I'm wrong. I honestly don't see how I quit every time out of boredom, but I highly doubt I couldn't do everything in 13 years.

Edit - Unless the main fan mod shortens the limit by default?

 

[Beastro]

I'm in America. We play cheat how we want. Fuck yeah!

Keeping things on topic here~

lukaszek

hey man, could you explain why it is that true randomness isn't possible? i read somewhere that a coin flip isn't a flat 50% chance, why?

it can also fall on edge

Chinese are becoming notorious for their arrogance and attitude of superiority.

Becoming?




They're just getting back on track thinking they're the center of the universe again after the humbling they've faced since the First Opium War.

Former American president John Quincy Adams commented that opium was "a mere incident to the dispute ... the cause of the [First Opium] war is the kowtow—the arrogant and insupportable pretensions of China that she will hold commercial intercourse with the rest of mankind not upon terms of equal reciprocity, but upon the insulting and degrading forms of the relations between lord and vassal."

 

[aweigh]

https://aldelaro5.wordpress.com/201...rng-manipulation-on-pokemon-colosseum-and-xd/

 

[Gnidrologist]

lol@Roqua That was Prosper worthy.:D

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Roqua]

Roqua maybe your character died from radiation while exploring?

No, I could just reload. I must just get bored and stop like I do with most games. Unless the big mod changes the time limit, or does something else to make the game end before the 13 years? I'll admit I'm retarded but not can't beat a game with a 13 year time limit level of retard. I could swear the last time I played it ended well before I cleared everything and before I got bored.

Edit-
I found a guide to the mod but it doesn't list the quest time options it gives when installing the mod. It did list this quest from Arroyo but I don't think I would skip it like an idiot and have the game end, and it doesn't list the time limit.

• Find a way to save the harvest in Arroyo.

Bring the AFR poison from Klamath (in the Rat Tunnels) and give it to the Elder. 500 XP
100 XP extra if you have also collected useful info about the wasteland (Outdoorsman 60+)
50 XP if you have no useful info (Only information about Klamath).
There is a time limit to do this quest. If you don't complete it in time, the game will end!
http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Megamod_Guide

 

[Black Angel]

Here Comes fallen Angel, we are all too used to their fetishes, but Dicephilia is something weird even for the standarts of the Hell.

Not sure if you're making a poetry there, but in case you're serious I don't exactly fetishes dice rolls. In fact, if there's *any* philias that you should be questioning in this forum, it's OP's Deterministicphilia. Or his/her/its RNGphobia, especially.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[aweigh]

what is this thread even about ? save-scumming?

 

[Tigranes]

Who knows? The original post was incoherent.

 

[Black Angel]

Who knows? The original post was incoherent.

Yeah, not as deterministic as it should be. Seems like OP rolled a dice for every paragraph, or even every word, and get bad results every time.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

what is this thread even about ? save-scumming?

Nah, it's about butthurt.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[aweigh]

But, what game are you even talking about?

 

[Sykar]

I admit that I do occasionally reload if a fight goes REALLY terrible. That being said I also always play with self imposed extra restrictions which many here would find strange. To give an example in the BG series I limited my rests to once a dungeon, reload on death because I ignore raise dead type spells because I find them ludicrous, not abusing faultily implemented spells like Project Image or Simulacrum (scroll abuse) and some more stuff.