Incline Chris Avellone Appreciation Station

[honko]

I think he will go work for InXile

 

[Neanderthal]

So any word from Obs on where MCA's novella for Poe is? Last I hear he'd handed it in for editing a while back and since then ant heard shit, looked on official forums (what a bunch o suckarses!) and only post I see asking gets ignored like bastard at family re-union: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/82853-new-pillars-of-eternity-short-stories-are-being-released/

You reckon they're drastically editing it or just overworked wi patches and shit?

 

[Fairfax]

They probably don't care about his stuff any more than they did during development and want these short stories to receive more attention.

 

[Neanderthal]

Pretty sad if so.

 

[Roguey]

So any word from Obs on where MCA's novella for Poe is? Last I hear he'd handed it in for editing a while back and since then ant heard shit, looked on official forums (what a bunch o suckarses!) and only post I see asking gets ignored like bastard at family re-union: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/82853-new-pillars-of-eternity-short-stories-are-being-released/

You reckon they're drastically editing it or just overworked wi patches and shit?

It's holiday time, we're not going to hear anything from Obsidian for weeks.

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

They won't publish his novella. Just like with most content he produced for them. End of story.

 

[Irenaeus II]

I'll pester them until they do it.

 

[Fairfax]

Interesting answer. Pretty sure he forgot Gene Wolfe, considering how much he mentions him.

 

[Roguey]

Avellone sure is a fan of a lot of shitlords, unsurprisingly most of them are from comics. And since he's a fan of Fables, I'm going to post the page that will forever derail discussion of the series.

 

[Fairfax]

That's one writer he mentioned who I didn't know.

He describes himself as "rabidly pro-Israel" and says that Fables "was intended from the beginning" as a metaphor for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, although he argues that Fables is not "a political tract. It never will be, but at the same time, it's not going to shy away from the fact that there are characters who have real moral and ethical centers, and we're not going to apologize for it."

What the fuck? And it's the second writer he mentioned.

Stick to Gene Wolfe, MCA.

 

[MicoSelva]

Hey, it's out earlier than expected.

Here's a recording of MCA's Van Buren p&p prototyping talk (you can skip to 5:20):



EDIT: 9:07

Bros, you should try the Chris Avellone Practice 2015 Drinking Game. Just take a shot of your favourite alcoholic beverage every time MCA uses the the word 'actually'. I can guarantee you that you will not last until the end of the talk. Actually, you might just drown at some point.

Good talk, btw.

 

[One-and-a-half-Ivan]

That's one writer he mentioned who I didn't know.

He describes himself as "rabidly pro-Israel" and says that Fables "was intended from the beginning" as a metaphor for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, although he argues that Fables is not "a political tract. It never will be, but at the same time, it's not going to shy away from the fact that there are characters who have real moral and ethical centers, and we're not going to apologize for it."

What the fuck? And it's the second writer he mentioned.

Stick to Gene Wolfe, MCA.

What's so cool about Gene Wolfe? There are tons of books that are much better.
MCA, for example, likes "Roadside picnic", and this book is much more than anything Wolfe has written.

 

[Stainless Veteran]

What's so bad about being pro-Israel? I can at least understand right-wing antisemites (the fear of the "other", deep historical roots of hatred and segregation, etc). But why the fuck do most of the libruls have such a hard-on for "poor Palestinians"? Just... what? Israel is an example of nationalism done right, it's the single sane country in the middle of dindu sea. I'm not even talking about army, economic and tech, I'm talking about (mostly) successfully combining both liberal ideas, elements of socialism with the hard stance on military matters and its people being mostly united by the common goal. Granted, without the USA their life would have become significantly harder, but still.

One would think that based on their stance on women's rights, homosexuality and so forth liberals should be against Palestine (and Iran), and not anti-Israel.

 

[Infinitron]

That "Background Character" account on Twitter is pretty Codexian.

 

[an Administrator]

Im now interested in MCA :D

 

[Fairfax]

What's so cool about Gene Wolfe? There are tons of books that are much better.
MCA, for example, likes "Roadside picnic", and this book is much more than anything Wolfe has written.

There are, yes, but I mentioned Gene Wolfe because it's someone he's mentioned a lot, and he's a much better writer than the ones listed in that tweet.
Roadside Picnic is very good, but it's very different, hardly comparable to Book of the New Sun.

What's so bad about being pro-Israel? I can at least understand right-wing antisemites (the fear of the "other", deep historical roots of hatred and segregation, etc). But why the fuck do most of the libruls have such a hard-on for "poor Palestinians"? Just... what? Israel is an example of nationalism done right, it's a single sane country in the middle of dindu sea. I'm not even talking about army, economic and tech, I'm talking about (mostly) successfully combining both liberal ideas, elements of socialism with the hard stance on military matters and its people being mostly united by the common goal. Granted, without the USA their life would have become significantly harder, but still.

One would think that based on their stance on women's rights, homosexuality and so forth liberals should be against Palestine (and Iran), and not anti-Israel.

They consider it imperialism, discrimination, oppression and whatnot. The thing is, that it's one of the few cases where that's actually true, so the whole debate is a mess. Both sides have done more than their fair share of bullshit, though.
In this case (Fables) I think it's very fucking stupid because I hate political allegories in general and something only bad writers with no balls do.

 

[Stainless Veteran]

What's so bad about being pro-Israel? I can at least understand right-wing antisemites (the fear of the "other", deep historical roots of hatred and segregation, etc). But why the fuck do most of the libruls have such a hard-on for "poor Palestinians"? Just... what? Israel is an example of nationalism done right, it's a single sane country in the middle of dindu sea. I'm not even talking about army, economic and tech, I'm talking about (mostly) successfully combining both liberal ideas, elements of socialism with the hard stance on military matters and its people being mostly united by the common goal. Granted, without the USA their life would have become significantly harder, but still.

One would think that based on their stance on women's rights, homosexuality and so forth liberals should be against Palestine (and Iran), and not anti-Israel.

They consider it imperialism, discrimination, oppression and whatnot. The thing is, that it's one of the few cases where that's actually true, so the whole debate is a mess. Both sides have done more than their fair share of bullshit, though.
In this case (Fables) I think it's very fucking stupid because I hate political allegories in general and something only bad writers with no balls do.

Eh. It's not the time and the place to argue politics, so rather than derail the thread further, I just say a few words about Fables. Early-to-mid issues are really great, while there certainly were Urban Fantasy novels with fairy-tale characters before that, it was the first comic book deftly portraying both magical, fairy-tale aspect of various intertwined stories and hardboiled/neo-noir themes. It had great psychological elements, sometimes gorgeous art (not always, but some Vertigo artists were simply great), and captivating plot. Sadly, like it's often the case with many longer comic series, from some point it began to drag. Author injecting his views into work I don't mind, but the author spinning the wheels with his story, and allowing the characterization suffer because of it - that I really dislike. But even with questionable middle part and losing its steam near the end, the series are really worth reading. So I'm in complete agreement with MCA here.

 

[Anthedon]

The podcast marathon continues:

 

[Sordid MCA/Prosper Hybryd]

I am leftie librul. But I am pro-Israel. Because, you know, fuck barbarism!

What's so cool about Gene Wolfe? There are tons of books that are much better.
MCA, for example, likes "Roadside picnic", and this book is much more than anything Wolfe has written.

Nah.

"Roadside Picnic" and "The Doomed City" are very good.

But "The Book of the New Sun" and "The Fifth Head of Cerberus" are just awesome.

Also:

 

[Fairfax]

That's an interview with a guy that has one follower on twitter and one subscriber on YouTube. What's the Codex staff waiting for?

Didn't answer mine, though.

 

[Drax]

Will you guys keep the political shit out of this thread?

 

[Infinitron]

The podcast marathon continues:

For people who are too lazy to click:

 

[Jarpie]

For people who are too lazy to click:

The guy kinda sounds like Walter Koenig doing russian accent :D

 

[One-and-a-half-Ivan]

But "The Book of the New Sun" and "The Fifth Head of Cerberus" are just awesome.

What's so awesome about "The book of the new sun"? I've read it recently, it's not a bad book, but I didn't find anything outstanding.
If you want something comparable, Zelazny's books suit my taste much better.
P.S. All the books by Strugatskiy brothers are awesome. Clever, unique, magnificently written (in the original language, don't know bout the translation).

 

[Drax]

All the books by Strugatskiy brothers are awesome.

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