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People News Chris Avellone grows a pair and fights back against being cancelled

Grauken

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Serious discussions on a judge's political bias on what a case's outcome will be is of concern. Everything in america is like this yes?
Not wanting a biased (against you) or activist judge presiding your case seems rather obvious. You for instance wouldn't want this judge in charge of your libel suit regarding sexual assault allegations, no?
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Similarly if you're suing a corporation or the government you wouldn't want a corporate cocksucker/lobbyist stooge or or a die-hard apparatchik presiding the case. They may rise over their initial bias given the facts of a case presented and the law, but it's less likely and not a great starting point. It makes sense to try and Min-Max that way if possible.

I wasn't aware that the kwa system is based on pony shows
 

Grauken

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Irregardless of the verdict his former friends in the Australian games industry have fully turned on him.
Essentially though Chris is fighting for his legacy not so much to return. I think the sentiments even here in Australia would also to some extent apply within the AAA industry internationally as well as its all just a big circle jerk.
I think his working career is over unless he works remotely under alias even if he does win and clears his name.

If he doesn't however clear his name. They'll erase him from history and pretend he never existed. That would be hard to watch your entire lifetime of work be destroyed in an instant.

Good that it's us fans who cement games history not developers or game journalists
 

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Serious discussions on a judge's political bias on what a case's outcome will be is of concern. Everything in america is like this yes?
Not wanting a biased (against you) or activist judge presiding your case seems rather obvious. You for instance wouldn't want this judge in charge of your libel suit regarding sexual assault allegations, no?
rndr_670x377-1.jpg


Similarly if you're suing a corporation or the government you wouldn't want a corporate cocksucker/lobbyist stooge or or a die-hard apparatchik presiding the case. They may rise over their initial bias given the facts of a case presented and the law, but it's less likely and not a great starting point. It makes sense to try and Min-Max that way if possible.
What's the source of that picture?
 

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"The lawyer in the thread is biased, unfortunately," wrote Avellone. "I respect his right to be heard, but while mocking one for pleading 'hurt feelings,' he should already be aware that's standard wording for libel suits in California and includes a range of emotional distress, including suicidal thoughts."
Schmeyer declined to add anything specific to that remark, but did respond to the claim that he is biased. "I don’t know Chris Avellone personally, nor do I know any parties to this lawsuit," wrote the lawyer in an email to PC Gamer. "I've played his games, and enjoyed them, but that's the extent of it. Being a lawyer, I found the legal issues surrounding his complaint to be of interest, and I commented.
 

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Schmeyer being quoted there is pure journalistic laziness. Too hard to contact a specialized lawyer, let's copy/paste Twitter.
And we should take the fact he is not biased at face value.
At least they asked Chris about this, so those PCGamer people are correct.
 
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TheImplodingVoice

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Angry men afraid that their right to coerce drunk women into sex without getting called rapists making up an absolute binary state, ignoring the gradient from drunk to incapacitated when even the definition of incapacitation is up for debate in a lot of cases. "Her eyes were open and she was mumbling, and I heard yes".

Law is often very dodgy on these things.

Not as dodgy as your clearly idiotic statements. You said that "drunk people can not give consent" and later doubled down when someone called you out on your clearly retarded statements by calling him a "potential rapist". And you never even brought up the difference between incapacitaded and drunk before the tweet I quoted. It's almost like you don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.

You sound like you are... triggered.
Are you just acting like a silly little cunt?
 
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Nutria

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I just spent like 3+ hours reading this thread and the only thing I learned is that Roguey definitely is part of the US intelligence community and is the only person here who knows wtf is going on. Thanks to everyone else who tried to contribute.
 

mondblut

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its a dark day for the industry when really amazing knowledge about designing games and narratives is lost forever because "he did a bad thing once".
Chris did something bad because of vice. He gave into his alcoholism which the industry encourages and enables.
He is not unique in this. I am far more interested in the Ubisoft scandal as that has way more wider reaching issues.

I can only hope that out of all of this the executive culture dies in this industry because that's where a lot of the problem stems from. Chris was encouraged to drink because of that culture.
The social environment of the games industry is entirely the problem here and its something that has to either be changed or outright decimated and started over because its the source of so much wrong with games today and the past even.
Richard Garriott has spoken before about the drug culture the industry had in the 70s and 80s. I hadn't realised how big a problem it was.

Its odd how that isn't the focus, instead the focus is on destroying Chris. We have so many widespread problems and its all getting ignored again.

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Dis u?
 

jackofshadows

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Drunk people can not give consent. Doesn't matter what she thought, said or felt in the moment if she was drunk and if she were, she would have every right to call it whatever she wanted to call it later on, even years later.

And if she were drunk and Chris made a move on her, that is basically sexual assault.

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2/10, made me reply.

If you don't agree with this very fundamental principle on consent, you are a potential rapist.
Look, sexually attractive people don't tend to think that way at all so who the fuck even cares about your/their opinion on this? Come to think of it, danger haired cunts from twitter are basically projecting when screeching "incel! incel! INCEL!!!" all the time.
 

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I would absolutely 100% be in favor of having some social norm where you don't get absolutely blackout posting-your-opinions-on-RPGCodex drunk around strangers. But that has to apply to both sexes and you can't invoke it retroactively after over 5 years.
 

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I understood "chingu" and "sexual predator". I resent this video because one of my best friends is Korean but she mispronounces my name in a different way every time she says it. But this bastard actually says "Chris Avellone" properly. Really shows how much a person is worth.
 

Eli_Havelock

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Drunk people can not give consent. Doesn't matter what she thought, said or felt in the moment if she was drunk and if she were, she would have every right to call it whatever she wanted to call it later on, even years later.

And if she were drunk and Chris made a move on her, that is basically sexual assault.

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2/10, made me reply.

If you don't agree with this very fundamental principle on consent, you are a potential rapist.
Look, sexually attractive people don't tend to think that way at all so who the fuck even cares about your/their opinion on this? Come to think of it, danger haired cunts from twitter are basically projecting when screeching "incel! incel! INCEL!!!" all the time.

When they're so thirsty they create rape fantasies.

Don't lie "ladies".

We've seen the fanfic tags of your dirty self-inserts. (*rimshot*)

We've seen the books and movies you're into and the 50 Shades of Non-Consensual you're hoping to randomly win the lottery with.

That Twilight shit where you were choosing between necropholia and beastiality because you queef too much pumpkin spice to get any human with a pulse to give a sniff.
(Let's not talk about when the doggy and his "soul mate" got engaged.)

We've all laughed at the Sandra Hill Rough and Ready and the even weirder shit on Amazon to witness the bottomless gaping chasm of the bawdy meat pistoning you're really into. You like reading your smut, most dudes and Miss Right Now are over on Pornhub, where everyone now has to go Japanese to find anything approaching the same fetishes you have in writing.
(Then we could go back to the fanfics to scare the shit out of the Japanese by turning it into Korean horror.)

We've long found your porn stash, and there's strangely a LOT of rape and other questionable things in it - just like everyone else's. :love:
 

PrettyDeadman

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I understood "chingu" and "sexual predator". I resent this video because one of my best friends is Korean but she mispronounces my name in a different way every time she says it. But this bastard actually says "Chris Avellone" properly. Really shows how much a person is worth.

Chris Avellone pretty much has kpop idol level of status in South Korea. Koreans will be REALLY angry if this case goes bust in court and Chris wont get properly compensated for his trouble.
 

Eli_Havelock

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It is not in an ambiguous state where it can be consensual or not-consensual depending on how a person feels about it later.

You never heard of Schrodinger’s Cock?

That's a good point, and to take it in another direction for a good legal topic in the modern climate: at which points through transitioning can someone avoid rape charges for doing the same thing?
 

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I understood "chingu" and "sexual predator". I resent this video because one of my best friends is Korean but she mispronounces my name in a different way every time she says it. But this bastard actually says "Chris Avellone" properly. Really shows how much a person is worth.

Chris Avellone pretty much has kpop idol level of status in South Korea. Koreans will be REALLY angry if this case goes bust in court and Chris wont get properly compensated for his trouble.


Out of interest, which of his games are big in SK? I honestly wasn't aware he was well known over there.
 

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