Cities : Skylines

[Dawkinsfan69]

p. fun game. kinda addictive and time consuming tho u start building highways and shit and suddenly you're 80 yrs old and all family and friends died

 

[Drax]

Yeah, pretty much.
I recommend playing with the mod that unlocks all terrain from the beginning, it's great fun to start by building a number of smaller settlements eventually joining to become a megalopolis.

 

[Angthoron]

Came across this yesterday, seems like a pretty legit strat.

 

[Mazisky]

Jesus i love this game:

Some quick pic of my little town:

Main Avenue with some commercials

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Farm area maxed out, very high income

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Residential, low wealth, need time to level up

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IT offices area

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Leisure Area, restaurants and clubs

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Suburb, the first zone i've made in the city so i decided to keep it without upgrading

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A huge park who cover half side of the city

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[Alienman]

Looks nice, only problem it requires zero effort to achieve that... except designing it to look good.

 

[Angthoron]

I think that describes the vast majority of citybuilders though

 

[Mazisky]

For those interested there is now a huge sale (70%) for the game aniversary, DLCs costs 3 Euros instead of 15.

 

[Fedora Master]

Came across this yesterday, seems like a pretty legit strat.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

For those interested there is now a huge sale (70%) for the game aniversary, DLCs costs 3 Euros instead of 15.

care to link, please? on their store perhaps? because on steam, at least here, there's nothing like that.

 

[Mazisky]

For those interested there is now a huge sale (70%) for the game aniversary, DLCs costs 3 Euros instead of 15.

care to link, please? on their store perhaps? because on steam, at least here, there's nothing like that.

https://www.paradoxplaza.com/on-sale/

Here's the link. If you buy DLCs here, then they send you Steam keys so you can integrate them with Steam.

 

[Mazisky]

After hours of playing i have a big concern about the game.

I feel that trying to make an efficient transport system (which is the main point of the game) is totally useless.

Let's say i've made a very good and efficient transport system to the point i've reduced car traffic from 90% to 10%. It's very good, right?

Now let's say i've made a crappy only-bus transport system where everyone is stuck in bus stops and every citizen have to wait entire weeks to go to destinations. I've still reduced car traffic from 90% to 10%.

So, why i should care at all? can someone clarify this to me?

 

[Mark.L.Joy]

You don't? Traffic isn't even a problem if all of it is concentrated on motorways and services have easy access within the city, you do it to make it look nice there is very little management.

 

[Mazisky]

hugely disappointed. I don't pretend huge management but i was pretty sure that long commute times would generate some malus instead of actually helping lel.

So, in 4 years and 250.000 mods, there's no one that increase the difficulty? And i mean something more creative than "stuff costs more". I did some research but i haven't found anything about.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Commute times matter only for industry/commerce and services. Buildings will get downgraded because of lack of import/export and stuff will burn down because firefighters couldn't get there fast enough etc. It never should happen in your residential areas, unless you have trucks going through them for some reason.

You can tweak Traffic Manager to your liking. Increasing realism (better lane switching, customizable lanes, non-magic parking etc.) can greatly change how difficult traffic management can be. For me the biggest change was turning off car despawn (in vanilla they will despawn after some time has passed if they haven't reached their destination). Now a small oversight can result in a traffic jam that literally goes as far as your eyes can see.

 

[Mazisky]

Commute times matter only for industry/commerce and services. Buildings will get downgraded because of lack of import/export and stuff will burn down because firefighters couldn't get there fast enough etc. It never should happen in your residential areas, unless you have trucks going through them for some reason.

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So if my transport is shit and bus\metro stops are overcrowded it doesn't matter because traffic is reduced anyway and services are free to go. Basically a shit transport system make people not taking cars and this is all you need to do.
How the fuck there is no penality for long commute times? They could have made that long commute times reduce happiness or make them taking cars. This is bad design.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

it does, commute is a requirement for residentials upgrade.

 

[Mazisky]

it does, commute is a requirement for residentials upgrade.

For upgrades it only calculates that you have a random transit for them, not how efficient it is. This means that it works by just creating the transit, no matter if it's good or not.

 

[Angthoron]

it does, commute is a requirement for residentials upgrade.

For upgrades it only calculates that you have a random transit for them, not how efficient it is. This means that it works by just creating the transit, no matter if it's good or not.

Not exactly, it does take into account whether it's going somewhere where people want to go or not. However, efficiency of the system, nope. It's extremely cheesable by spamming the only profitable transit system in the game - subways. Drop those bad boys into your hood, connect them to places where people generally go, there ya go, lots of happy happy faces.

 

[Turjan]

So, in 4 years and 250.000 mods, there's no one that increase the difficulty? And i mean something more creative than "stuff costs more". I did some research but i haven't found anything about.

The economic side of the game is basically fake. If you observe the game for a while, you will notice that it tends to gravitate to a nearly balanced budget with a slight surplus. You can observe real effects during short time frames and in very small cities, but this all goes away in somewhat larger cities and over longer time periods, where the game seems to pick a target number for your budget (target as in "absolute value") out of its posterior.

There's simply nothing to anchor any improvements on.

 

[Turjan]

I might as well leave this here:



Released a week ago. Looks rather lazy.

I'm still somewhat salty about the last DLC, which basically only worked in a small city and needs mods to become mechanically bearable.

 

[Angthoron]

Yeah, I really don't get it, is having a university city really the thing that people have been asking for?

 

[Turjan]

Well, yes, there were quite a few people asking for that, even if I wasn't among them. There is a certain vocal fanbase left now, which mostly consists of people who love this system of plopping and upgrading these park-like structures, as they have been used in the Parklife and Industries expansions. These people now dominate the discourse.

CO seems to have used the free patch that came on the DLC release date to fix some aspects of the education system, like having age brackets for school types, which should eliminate the "everyone is a university graduate" problem. Cims also have job titles and fixed workplaces now.

Nevertheless, I assume we are at the tail end of support. The core issues of the game regarding the economic simulation and the inability to have a somewhat more realistic population spread will never be addressed in this iteration of the series, which means we are basically stuck with expansions like that. I certainly had enough fun with the game, given the ungodly amount of time I wasted on this, but the only really interesting aspects were traffic, city painting and playing with mods.

 

[Drax]

There was an update released recently, this was on the patch notes:

Changed: Final Solution Academic Work to Ultimate Solution

 

[LESS T_T]

Paradox registered domain cities2.com.

Probably announced at PDXCON next month.

 

[Perkel]

Paradox registered domain cities2.com.

Probably announced at PDXCON next month.

Good, DLC method for Cities was fucking disaster. I bought base game and none of DLC were worth anything.