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Civilization VI - Now available, so you can sink all your free time into it

L'ennui

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I think you might be seriously arguing with an SJW here.
Worse, and may GayBen sodomize my asshole for uttering these words, he's a console cuck.

Yes I play Civ VI on Xbox, come at me bros.

Yes, in between bouts of SMAC, Shadow Empire and Star Ruler 2, I sometimes play on *gasp* console. Mostly stuff like Dark Souls or shooters, but got Civ VI for like $5 there, so not bad.

Also, I wouldn't count myself as a member of the SJW clique but I'm also not infected with the rabies like some of the people here. You guys know you should get that treated, right?
 

flyingjohn

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Civ 6 doesn't have global happiness and encourages you to settle.
That automatically makes it better then 5 by miles.

Also,i remember playing gods and kings and the ai showed a lot of improvement which just vanished.
The ai was a consistent psychopath and used nukes in almost human way.Random subs hiding in corners with nukes ready to hit you.
Brave new world made every ai a "incompetent friendly neighbor",minus the zulus and atilla.

Hell i remember that vanilla civ v Gandhi nuked his own cities just to get rid of my armies surrounding it,what the fuck happened to this game?
 

flyingjohn

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Vatnik Wumao
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They should've added Ho Chi Minh instead, but eh. 'Murricans aren't too fond of him.

They seem to be avoiding recent-ish, controversial-ish leaders as much as possible, which is a shame given how many interesting additions could be made.
I can understand that, but it's annoying when they cherrypick less significant leaders either to avoid controversy or to fit a gender quota (e.g. not having one of the Louises or Napoleon as leader of France, Kazimir the Great or the more controversial Pilsudski for Poland, Gustavus Adolphus for Sweden and so on).
 

Lone Wolf

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In Vietnam's case, outside of Ho Chi Minh, the Truong sisters were probably the most prominent leaders available. Is the chick above one of them? I'm not going through the trailer to find out.
 

laclongquan

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laclongquan what is your opinion on this leader choice to represent your nation in Civ 6. Good, bad, retarded?


Not Sexy enough. Ba Trieu is famous in Viet legend for having the biggest tits EVAR.

Hair also is not right. Who would wear that contraption on head to go into battle?

Plus, she's in ancient time. At that time i dont think ao dai fashion (heavily influenced by cheongsam) were passed down here yet.

Should have used a halter top and a short skirt instead. IF really want to follow official book record, use short shirt.

Skin is probabbly correct. At that time we hadnt mixed much Han blood and or Khmer/Champa, so use that skin tone is... acceptable.
 
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Zarniwoop

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Shadorwun: Hong Kong


laclongquan what is your opinion on this leader choice to represent your nation in Civ 6. Good, bad, retarded?


Not Sexy enough. Ba Trieu is famous in Viet legend for having the biggest tits EVAR.

Hair also is not right. Who would wear that contraption on head to go into battle?

Plus, she's in ancient time. At that time i dont think ao dai fashion (heavily influenced by cheongsam) were passed down here yet.

Should have used a halter top and a short skirt instead. IF really want to follow official book record, use short shirt.

Skin is probabbly correct. At that time we hadnt mixed much Han blood and or Khmer/Champa, so use that skin tone is... acceptable.


That sounds mighty sexist there, BIGOT. Women are not allowed to be sexy, Maxie and the Progressive Patrol will be along shortly to escort you to the nearest gulag re-education camp.
 

Zarniwoop

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Shadorwun: Hong Kong
don't @ me if your only insight concerning the new faction in the game is whether or not the leader is easy to masturbate to

The leader is purposefully made to not be historically accurate. You absolute fucking retard.

Have you ever not missed the point in your entire life?
 

Absinthe

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Civ 6 doesn't have global happiness and encourages you to settle.
That automatically makes it better then 5 by miles.
This part was complete fucking shit about Civ 5, but the expansions and patches soft-addressed that by basically letting you get massive amounts of bonus happiness through religion, adding mercantile city states (which also give massive happiness bonuses), increasing the amount of types of luxuries (making it much easier to get more happiness from luxury tiles and trade), and I think BNW lets you get happiness from trade routes too. They also made Circuses much easier to build (and zero maintenance), added Circus Maximus national wonder (+5 happiness), and made a lot of happiness facilities faster to build and/or lower maintenance as part of their patches. The Circus change in particular (and addition of Circus Maximus) was huge.

When you were playing GNK or BNW happiness was far less crippling than it had been in vanilla Civ 5 on launch. I remember doing full-on ICS base spam in Civ 5 multiplayer where I settled every scrap of land I could, even deep into zero yield tiles because I was getting so much out of every additional base and was able to get enough bonus happiness out of new bases that it didn't matter. In BNW you also have to look after income since trade routes are meant to be your primary source of income so they gutted gold-producing tiles, meaning your new bases don't get a lot of gold income while many facilities will cost you gold in maintenance but you can still overcome that.

Back in vanilla the #1 strategy for dealing with happiness issues was permanent golden ages (ie. Persia with Chichen Itza) because back then golden ages suppressed all effects unhappiness (they patched this out since) and you could sacrifice every kind of great person for a golden age. Once you got permanent golden ages going (which wasn't too hard, especially if you went on a warpath and had a bit of Honor tree to get tons of great generals) you basically got to enjoy completely ignoring the happiness mechanic and just building expanding and conquering as much you want.

Other than that there's a hidden Civ 5 setting that disables happiness which you can make visible with some XML editing (works in multiplayer too), but removing happiness also kills golden ages, annoyingly.

Also,i remember playing gods and kings and the ai showed a lot of improvement which just vanished.
The ai was a consistent psychopath and used nukes in almost human way.Random subs hiding in corners with nukes ready to hit you.
Brave new world made every ai a "incompetent friendly neighbor",minus the zulus and atilla.
I think the complaint was that the AI was always going to declare war on you for all kinds of trigger-happy reasons, but I'm sure the attempted fix fucked shit up in its own way. Civ 5 has always lacked a competent AI, honestly. I only played Civ 5 online, which went a long ways to making Civ 5 not feel like shit (aside from the retarded multiplayer lobbies and ridiculous netsplits). The average idiots were still 10x better and more fun than the AI. Just make sure to set a turn timer and play with simultaneous turns. The default turn timer scales and becomes too long in lategame but a custom turn timer of 90 seconds is usually enough for a game that runs long while preventing somebody from trying to squeeze out 6 minute turns every time and making everyone else DC because that 20-30 turn war is going to take hours at that rate.
 
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