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CKII is released.

Tigranes

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I mean diseases on the map killing half your army every month.

Trash or anybody else - so Better Looking Characters requires African and Mongol portraits, but not the Mediterranean, right? I might pick them up at the Amazon $0.99 price.
 
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My Paradox playing is pretty cyclical too. Right now I'm playing only Vicky 2, but eventually I'll exhaust the options I find fun, and if that's before OG I'll probably do something drastic in HoI3 like fascist South Africa (incidentally, there was a HUGE bug in Black Ice for Japan and Soviets with the enforced peace between them, as it would cause serious shit to go down if Germany was invading too). EU3 fails to hold my interest completely these days. Before the current cycle I was playing Rome, bringing the world some Hellen glory as Seleucids.

Try forming byzantine empire in victoria 2 if you are exhausting the fun options , yes its included but the option dont show up until you get all the new core after megali idea and superpower status.
Actually I generally just keep being Greece and continue removing Kebab. I find the idea of being "Byzantine Empire" in the 19th century prepostrous. I haven't done a Greece campaign in a while, seems like a good idea now that South Africa campaign is drawing to a close.

Or I'll just do something lulzy like cheat like a motherfucker and create an Estonian Empire.


Which raises the question:

Who the hell is the emperor?

Old Kostas strikes me as a bit of a huge incompetent in everything but looking good at photos, which makes him an ideal emperor for times of decline, but not restoration.
 

sser

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I find the diseases to be too mild, "omg i have tuberculosis!, oh it's nothing it was just a cough i'm 100% healthy now!":roll:

Hm, you should try an Arab faction. North Africa is disease-central: there's always something coming through. I've had plenty of people die of disease, including a king/queen 1-for-2 case of syphilis. Disease is the biggest killer of individuals, aside from the spurts of violent killings after a sultan dies.
 
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well mussollini was considering himself as a roman emperor , so in an alternate history, a fascist evil powermongering greece, why not ;) . Remember to make germany your bitch as well, true alternate history at its best.It xill be a really tough challenge although.
Actually there seem to be many ways to prevent Germans from ever becoming a problem. For example, in my Scandinavia campaign I established a stranglehold on Hannover, and conquered around the Kiel. These two factors put any hopes of German unification to rest (preventing North German Federation is the pivotal task). Italy is much easier to keep under the bootheel.

yes thats the way to do it to cripple them , my problem with greece is getting a strong industry wich is mandatory for the superpower status , I got all the cores rather easily, colonies in africa is a piece of cake either, but the industry no it wont take up, ive read the guides but i am probably missing something still. Its quite odd on victoria 2 is either too easy or too hard. Easiest for me was china with an overabundance of everything, too easy to steamroll everything once you westernized.

Well Germany can still form through Pan German nationalists even if they are lacking a province or eight, like in my Texas game, it's simply horrifying the borders that can result in.

What are you're economic policies as Greece? I know I for one really prefer socialist planned economy with protectionism for small countries. Laissez faire, while quite good for major powers just doesn't cut it I find. The input and output efficiency techs are really important as well letting you make more good with less resources, great for profitability.
 

Lagole Gon

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Since we are talking about Victoria II...

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Andhaira's revenge.

Industrialization drives me nuts, just can't do it fast enough. Should be better now with my new chinese subjects.

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Bros, tell me one thing. Priority in trade depends on prestige, or overall rating?
Can I troll other countries and cause their factories go bankrupt by dominating export of certain good?
 

Fart Master

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Tried to play Persia a good dozen of times but never get far. Waiting 30 years just to start doing things is ass.
 

Vaarna_Aarne

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Bros, tell me one thing. Priority in trade depends on prestige, or overall rating?
Can I troll other countries and cause their factories go bankrupt by dominating export of certain good?
I think it's down to SoI and prestige.

However, you really can't do that, as the exports are mostly directed to the global market, and the ONLY good that could do it is Coal... Which is mostly concentrated in the GPs.
 

Lagole Gon

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Bros, tell me one thing. Priority in trade depends on prestige, or overall rating?
Can I troll other countries and cause their factories go bankrupt by dominating export of certain good?
I think it's down to SoI and prestige.

However, you really can't do that, as the exports are mostly directed to the global market, and the ONLY good that could do it is Coal... Which is mostly concentrated in the GPs. Persian province of China

Fixed.
 

Space Satan

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Since we are talking about Victoria II...
Industrialization drives me nuts, just can't do it fast enough. Should be better now with my new chinese subjects.
Bros, tell me one thing. Priority in trade depends on prestige, or overall rating?
Can I troll other countries and cause their factories go bankrupt by dominating export of certain good?
If you want to industrialize, then dealing with China is the last thing you should do - their legions of artisans will obliterate your factories instantly and bleed them dry. Do not go there until you have tech superiority that will squeeze fucking gooks to death. Industrialization is all about literacy as it initiates mass promotion of craftsmen and jews to spend jewgolds on factories.
With each chineese province you capture, you earn artisans, and they are the main reason your factories will be unprofitable as they are numerous and providing demand(and high prices) for resources your factories use. to compete with thos eparasites you'll need plenty efficency techs. But once countries start to be more effective they will drive artisans away from the market due to artisans have fixed consumption of resources and factories benefit from A LOT from tech and other bonuses. When you see budget screen for middle strata gone red with artisans getting "None of their needs" - you'll know you are doing things right.

Prestige determines who buys first on World Market, but sphered countries count as your inner market and always sell and buy from their master before anyone else.
 

Mortmal

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well mussollini was considering himself as a roman emperor , so in an alternate history, a fascist evil powermongering greece, why not ;) . Remember to make germany your bitch as well, true alternate history at its best.It xill be a really tough challenge although.
Actually there seem to be many ways to prevent Germans from ever becoming a problem. For example, in my Scandinavia campaign I established a stranglehold on Hannover, and conquered around the Kiel. These two factors put any hopes of German unification to rest (preventing North German Federation is the pivotal task). Italy is much easier to keep under the bootheel.

yes thats the way to do it to cripple them , my problem with greece is getting a strong industry wich is mandatory for the superpower status , I got all the cores rather easily, colonies in africa is a piece of cake either, but the industry no it wont take up, ive read the guides but i am probably missing something still. Its quite odd on victoria 2 is either too easy or too hard. Easiest for me was china with an overabundance of everything, too easy to steamroll everything once you westernized.

Well Germany can still form through Pan German nationalists even if they are lacking a province or eight, like in my Texas game, it's simply horrifying the borders that can result in.

What are you're economic policies as Greece? I know I for one really prefer socialist planned economy with protectionism for small countries. Laissez faire, while quite good for major powers just doesn't cut it I find. The input and output efficiency techs are really important as well letting you make more good with less resources, great for profitability.

First try i used laissez faire , but it doesnt work for greece indeed, then i went planned economy and military-industrial complex, but even like that my industry was so subsidized it was crippling. I missed on the output input techs ,usually developping power and chemistry line first armies next,neglecting the other trees .I' ll try that next .
 

Tigranes

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My weirdo Latin Empire is going pretty well. The current generation is the Emperor then a younger bro King of Sicily, the full territory including Sicily, Epirus, Thessalia, Thrace, Samos, Anatolia and the Egyptian coast. Having educated both of them to be humble, chaste and temperamental they are maintaining good relations to each other for the most part, and a pretty even distribution.

Despite having such a large empire it's hard to reclaim Roman frontiers - Bulgaria is entirely subjugated by a Wallachian tribe which, I guess with horde mechanics, has tens of thousands of roaming dudes. The Il Khanate has reached as far as Nikaea, while the Golden Horde has Egypt and everything East of the Levant. Hoping to finally build up a large retinue.
 

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From what I've seen and read on the forums, the Mongols pretty much stop becoming a threat when their initial stack of attrition free doodz whithers away. Once that happens they'll eventually fall prey to continuous civil wars. This has happened to both the Golden Horde and the Il Khanate in my game. Now I'm waiting for the same thing to befall the Timurids.
 

Kattze

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From what I've seen and read on the forums, the Mongols pretty much stop becoming a threat when their initial stack of attrition free doodz whithers away. Once that happens they'll eventually fall prey to continuous civil wars. This has happened to both the Golden Horde and the Il Khanate in my game. Now I'm waiting for the same thing to befall the Timurids.
Only if they become Muslim. if they converted to Nestorian, God have mercy on your soul.
 

RK47

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I ran out of place to expand as well. And yes, Ilkhans turn Nestorian. So no more Holy War :(

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Borelli

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I don't understand why don't they simply hardcode Mongol commanders with awesome combat traits, just give everyone cavalry commander+plains terrain fighter (can even create new ones like horse archer commander) and you get a historically more accurate reason why your ass is getting kicked.
 

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i understand that gifting bishopry is a good way of removing someone from the line of succession but does this apply to vassal kings son as well?
 

oscar

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Those look fantastic. No idea why Paradox hired those clowns when this guy is around and seemingly willing to do stuff that looks far better for free.
 

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Those look fantastic. No idea why Paradox hired those clowns when this guy is around and seemingly willing to do stuff that looks far better for free.

Because we couldn't come to an agreement about doing more work after the Mongol pack, unfortunately.

They probably found some people who wanted to do it for less than he was asking. 'When you pay peanuts you get monkeys' and all that.

Coz seriously, everything Pdox released after he left looks like the work of the intern.

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While this looks like a talented guy is unemployed and has way too much time on his hands.

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