CKII is released.

[mondblut]

They will probably just come from further east, a few years earlier.

Fucking yay, I see ports on the indian ocean shores on one of the screenshots. Finally the game has been fixed.

 

[Chef_Hathaway]

inb4 viking raids and kingdoms in India.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I'm curious what will happen to the Mongol invasion events now that there are central Siberian territories. Will the invasion dates be pushed earlier? Will the Mongol states exist in Asia and then suddenly go to invasion mode with extra reinforcements?

They should take this opportunity to better present the Mongol states. After all, the Golden Horde was hardly a centralized entity, much less monocultural.

 

[Abelian]

The Lost Vikings? It has the potential for many lulz, but it's probably not going to be possible unless the the Suez canal will be included anachronistically (or they establish kingdoms near the Red Sea or Persian Gulf).

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Well the path is clear... Invade Egypt, conquer Egypt, use this as a way to invade India.

 

[Commissar Draco]

HIP is good Mod and it's working with CK2 2.04 which is latest version Commissar is interested in anyway; frack Wyrmlordia put into Crusader Kings game.

 

[RK47]

I'm not buying that Rajah expansion for sure.
Booted up the game after a week of absence, it's still as good as ever.
1230 AD or so I play the 15 yo Duke of Anjou and was surprised to see most of the wars that France fought was over a duchy claims around it against England.
It looked pretty hopeless when the Kaiser Fred allied with England, bringing his 15k levy to invade eastern france.
I almost wished there's an intrigue option to demand the king declare white peace in this hopeless war.
Suddenly Fred died, his heir had no alliance and the whole England defense just melted - we took 2 counties. Yeah, viva le frogs.

Very addictive.
I almost felt guilty sleeping past midnight when there's work next day.

 

[Brinko]

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...II-Rajas-of-India-Dev-Diary-2-Indian-Religion

New week, new dev diary! This time, I am going to talk of the new religions and their intricacies. As I mentioned last week, there is now a new Indian religion group with three religions; Hindu, Buddhist and Jain. What you get when you buy Rajas of India is the ability to play as a ruler of one of these religions, with all the associated mechanics.



The general idea with all three Indian religions is that they are pluralistic and tolerant, especially toward each other. Thus, none of them have any heresies to worry about. Instead, low religion authority will cause various negative events to fire, much in the same way that having negative money does. This tolerance is also reflected in province revolt risk and vassals' opinions of their lieges. Instead of heresies, characters may belong to an accepted branch of their religion. Thus, for example, a Hindu can be a Shaivist, Shaktist or one of several other denominations. This is a character trait. It is also possible to pick a specific patron god for various bonuses.

Characters of all three religions can take one wife only, but are allowed concubines, like pagans and Zoroastrians. Another great thing about the Indian religions is that they allow the designation of a favorite child as heir, regardless of the specific succession law (though abiding by the gender preference law, of course.) Lastly, and quite importantly, it's possible for players to switch between the three Indian religions (tentatively, once per lifetime at a steep Piety cost) in order to take advantage of their special mechanics when needed. Right, so those are most of the major commonalities. Of course, there are also some similarities in the kinds of events that characters of all three religions tend to get (but I'm saving that for a later dev diary!)



Hinduism is the most warlike of the three; Hindu rulers have access to the normal Holy War casus belli. In addition, they are allowed to raid neighboring provinces of non-Indian religions. Hindus, however, also need to deal with the caste system. All Hindus can be born into one of the three castes that we represent in the game; Brahmin, Kshatriya, or Vaishya. This is represented as a character trait. Priests are expected to be Brahmins, feudal rulers Kshatriyas and burghers Vaishyas. Marrying into the wrong caste - or worse - being the wrong caste, gives serious opinion penalties with other Hindus. Children born to mixed caste parents will get the lower of the two. Characters with no caste at all are the lowest of all - the untouchables. This system limits your marriage options and tends to cause strife in your realm. It is possible to get a higher caste trait through a special decision, but it is hard and costly.

Buddhists are represented as the most philosophically minded of the Indian religions. (While perhaps not entirely fair, they were historically known for their huge universities and libraries.) They don't have to worry about caste, but rulers who ever plan to switch to Hinduism might still want to take heed of it. Buddhists cannot raid and their Holy War CB is less powerful (currently, counties instead of duchies), but they do get a great bonus to Learning, meaning that they will have unmatched long-term technological progress - if they can survive...

Finally, we have Jainism, which is probably the most peaceful religion on the planet. For Jains, the concept of Ahimsa - non-violence - is the cornerstone of their faith. Thus, Jains do not have any kind of Holy War CB, and violent acts have more serious repercussions on Piety (called Karma for the Indian religions) and opinions. Too limiting? Perhaps, but there are some serious benefits as well; Jains can have much bigger demesnes, get a flat opinion bonus from their vassals, and basically don't have to worry about provincial revolts (though the effect is less on characters and provinces of non-Indian faiths.)

That's a brief summary of the new mechanics, but I should mention that although the information I've outlined above is true in the current build, it might change quite a lot for balance reasons. For example, it's rather tricky to make the three Indian religions equally beneficial, only suitable for different circumstances and play styles.



That's all for now. Until next week, folks!

Interesting that you can pick a patron god for bonus shit, they better include that as well for the Hellenic religion.

 

[Multiple Sarcasm]

Interesting that you can pick a patron god for bonus shit, they better include that as well for the Hellenic religion.

Are they working on Hellenic? I thought they considered it an afterthought, strictly for some dynasty trees and unintended to be playable.
I'd even buy a DLC if it made Hellenes of old properly represented. (Ahistorical, I know, but damn I want to larp them.)

 

[Whisky]

Patron gods? Fuck yeah, that sounds good. I just hope they incorporate that into the other Pagans, if not, it could be cool in some mods.

I'll make a newspost when work is over.

 

[Whisky]

Interesting that you can pick a patron god for bonus shit, they better include that as well for the Hellenic religion.

Are they working on Hellenic? I thought they considered it an afterthought, strictly for some dynasty trees and unintended to be playable.
I'd even buy a DLC if it made Hellenes of old properly represented. (Ahistorical, I know, but damn I want to larp them.)

Personally, I've been hoping for a Dead Gods expansion, where you can potentially revive dead pagan practices like Celtic. Ahistorical, yes, but Hellenism is right there and it is such a fucking tease.

 

[Abelian]

One point that is still unclear to me: will the map get expanded in the next vanilla patch, or is it strictly limited to the DLC?

 

[XenomorphII]

One point that is still unclear to me: will the map get expanded in the next vanilla patch, or is it strictly limited to the DLC?

I believe they said that the map gets expanded in the patch, but the new areas will be unplayable without the DLC (so like Muslims without Sword).

Edit: Source: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...s-of-India&p=16802502&viewfull=1#post16802502

 

[Abelian]

One point that is still unclear to me: will the map get expanded in the next vanilla patch, or is it strictly limited to the DLC?

I believe they said that the map gets expanded in the patch, but the new areas will be unplayable without the DLC (so like Muslims without Sword).

Cool, thanks for clarifying that. I'll pass on getting Rajas this time, since there are so many start locations I haven't tried out yet.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Something tells me India will be one big fuckin' hindu mess.

Good luck with balancing it.

 

[Whisky]

At the very least, Jainism is gonna get wiped out fast. Lacking Holy War CB is gonna be their death.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I doubt Hindus are going to have Holy War CBs on Jains and Buddhists.

 

[XenomorphII]

Unless I am mistaken, it seems that the Holy War CB for the Indian religions is going to be only usable against outside religions.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

The more imminent issue if you ask me is going to be whether or not Indian titles are valid Jihad targets, since I doubt India is going to be large enough to repel all of the Middle-East.

 

[Abelian]

Finally, we have Jainism, which is probably the most peaceful religion on the planet. For Jains, the concept of Ahimsa - non-violence - is the cornerstone of their faith. Thus, Jains do not have any kind of Holy War CB, and violent acts have more serious repercussions on Piety (called Karma for the Indian religions) and opinions.

It would be funny is this means that Jain rulers will not be able to hire assassins or participate in assassination plots. It's probably going to be implemented as a piety penalty, though.

 

[Average Manatee]

Bigger demesne + opinion boost might lead to some pretty concentrated resistance by a Jainist king.

inb4 Jainists converting to Horde cultures and picking up the invasion CB. Or, of course, the Republic Jainists, because owning even more cities won't be OP.

 

[Abelian]

Bigger demesne + opinion boost might lead to some pretty concentrated resistance by a Jainist king.

inb4 Jainists converting to Horde cultures and picking up the invasion CB. Or, of course, the Republic Jainists, because owning even more cities won't be OP.

Another lulzy scenario: the Golden Horde Khan converts to Jainism.

 

[Kattze]

Patron gods? Fuck yeah, that sounds good. I just hope they incorporate that into the other Pagans, if not, it could be cool in some mods.

I'll make a newspost when work is over.

I reckon they can make the same system for Christians in the form of patron saints.

 

[RK47]

Anyone have any good fun starting date.
France game got stale after my fellow dukes puts me to the throne - by force.
Realizing that if I do not take part, the teen-king would jail my ass if the faction loses, I sunk all my 1000 gold into a 10k merc stac with my 5k levy and 1.5k retinue.
2 years later I'm the king of france. yay. whoope do.

 

[Kattze]

The new dlc + a revamped decadence would make an authentic Andhairavid playthrough doable.