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In Progress Codex Bloodbowl League

Discussion in 'Codex Playground' started by boot, Mar 30, 2021.

  1. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    if i'm gonna see a nigga skip moving his ball carrier when he can still score with 2 turns to go one more time i'm gonna bring down the hammer
     
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  2. bionicman Learned

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    Strange Fellow, some things I noticed that could help you (I'm not a good orc coach by any means, so take this with a grain of salt):

    1) Before your linemen and black orcs get block, try to put blitzers on the front line instead *when on offense* (although this doesn't work vs 4 strength teams like chaos and lizards). When on defense, black orcs on the front line is fine.

    2) Teams with 3 strength fear black orcs. They especially fear them when they form a wall. Basically, try to use your black orcs as a standing wall. This forces elves to dodge out.

    In my opinion there was this one situation where if you used a wall you would've fared a lot better in the first half:

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    The arrows are my suggestion for what you should've done. You instead went to blitz with your black orc, left that other black orc at the top-left part of the cage doing nothing, and left your blitzer on the right vulnerable to a surf. Also, notice how by moving that black orc all the way to the left you would've allowed a two-dice block by giving a +1 assist to that blitzer there. Also, sorry for the dark-elf camera perspective but you get the idea.

    The result of that turn was that dark elves had a 2-dice (1 with a reroll) block opportunity at your ball and managed to KO one of your black orcs. I think this turn was a deciding point. You played really well before this one, and this significantly slowed you down (though you still could've potentially scored in the end, as Darth Roxor pointed out, and made it a draw).

    Jaedar was the one who had less luck this game I think, and still won anyways.

    It was an entertaining game. I'm looking forward to playing against both of you.

    EDIT: Strange Fellow, just noticed that pathing I drew for the blitzer is wrong, should instead just be a diagonal arrow toward that tile.

    EDIT 2: I've fixed it now.
     
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  3. Jaedar Arcane Patron

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    Maybe? I looked at the stats and I did have a higher percentage of skulls and 1s but at the same time I did fewer blocks and kept up quite well in the player count despite having lower armor and making fewer blocks.

    It was a pretty dull game. I think strange fellow played a bit too passively in the first half, especially in the last 3 turns he needed to take some risks to move the ball. What risks I don't know, I am waaaay too rusty at the blocking game (made some really big derps were I failed to account for actually having a path to blitz where I wanted due to pushing/following poorly) and I've never played orcs. A wall of blorcs is pretty much impenetrable, but I wonder if it isn't better to use at least two of them to push forward.

    Also in the screenshot you posted it might have been fine to move the blorc, but in general you need to be careful with making a wall like that since if the witch elf blocks left, she can push the ball carrier out of the cage and make him vulnerable to a blitz. Probably wouldn't happen in this particular setup since it's blorcs, but it's worth keeping in mind.
     
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  4. bionicman Learned

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    Yeah, I agree that it's still dangerous, didn't think about it.

    When I said you were unlucky, it was cause one thing stuck out as hilarious, which is at the end of first half when you (I think it was a blitz?) blocked with your witch elf, got double-skulls, which turned into a KO, which turned into a failed KO roll. :D

    Anyways, I guess boot can start the next day round of the competition now.
     
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  5. boot Cipher

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  6. Lagole Gon Arcane Patron

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    RK47, I have to add all codexian BB players to the Steam friend list again.

    My friend list was wiped out when my account got stolen by russian hackers and sold to a romanian body inflation fetishist. True story.

    Edit: Dammit! It really is a true story! I have romanian chatlogs and disturbing TF2 Pyro fanart to prove it!
     
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  7. Jaedar Arcane Patron

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    I honestly didn't expect the league to get this far. And it hasn't even been a week! Good job men.

    Anyway, what's your steam Zanzoken ? I am Jaedar or code 24987248.
     
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  8. bionicman Learned

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    boot and I played and he learned the harsh lesson of the fragility of elves and why you should never place your armor-7 no-skill elves next to your opponents' players en masse. He decided to concede, since the game became very unenjoyable for both of us. I agree with the decision.

    Generally speaking, pro elves (just like high elves, except even more) suck at early levels. However, pro elves suck at all levels. All the while humans are quite strong early.

    If there will be a season 2 of the Codex bb league, I will most certainly pick a weaker team to handicap myself. These two games I've played so far have not been fair match ups to say the least.
     
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  9. boot Cipher

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    ITZ OVER

    incels concede on turn 5, onlookers disgusted, coach predicts bleak future ahead

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    I know you shouldn't mark players with elves, if you watch me and RK's game you see I never really did that, but to apply any pressure you need some marking. I just wanted to try my luck I guess.
     
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  10. bionicman Learned

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    I would say don't be pessimistic, but I would be a liar. Pro elves just suck ass.

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    I actually don't disagree that you should do that (mark to apply pressure). It's a viable strategy, but better at later levels when you have a lot of blodge (block + dodge) and sidestep (although this backfires often too). E.g. a good time to do this is when you've acquired the ball from your opponent, but can't form a screen to protect your ball carrier (wood elves do this since the war dancers just leaps in, strips the ball away, and then the catcher dodges in, picks the ball up and runs away). The problem here is that you gave me a lot of free blocks (less risky ones). Perhaps if I were really unlucky with handing over the ball it would've worked out for you, but it was very unlikely. And so the whole action was too risky for what it's worth in my opinion.


    Edit: Don't take my suggestions and blood bowl opinions too seriously though, it's important to have fun, and I'm by no means a good blood bowl player (I make stupid mistakes all the time), so I could be wrong.
     
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  11. Zanzoken Arcane

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    Just sent you a friend request! I'm on EDT (UTC-4) and my availability is pretty open, so let me know when you'd like to play.
     
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  12. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    :lol: i shd check the replay, sounds top kek
     
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  14. Jaedar Arcane Patron

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    Pro elves have shitty linos (they're probably the worst in the game for how relatively useless yet expensive they are) but they have great blitzers and the best catchers in the game. Basically the only way to stop a pro elf from a 2 turn touchdown is snake eyes. Which obviously does happen, but not that often.
     
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  15. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    if you concede at turn 5 instead of going for 2-turn-tds when you still have 4 players left and 3 ko'd, the fuck you playing pro elves for
     
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  16. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    :lol:

    EIN GLANFATH MOTHERFUCKERS

    yeah if u play Pro Elves. You gotta be mentally prepared. Throw caution to the wind.
     
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  17. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    naked men meet green men tomorrow at 7 pm potato time
     
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  18. Galdred Studio Draconis Patron Developer

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    I wish there was a timebank instead. 4 minutes for every turn is too long indeed, but never more than 2 minutes can wreck key turns.
    Of course, playing vampires with less than 4 minutes/turn is difficult...

    You sound like a dwarf hater!
     
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  19. boot Cipher

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    Thats how you end up conceding turn 5
     
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  20. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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  21. Lagole Gon Arcane Patron

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    SHOW YOURSELF!

    Edit: Dorf Duel in 15 minutes.
     
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  22. bionicman Learned

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    I bet it's going to be the most boring match in this whole tournament.
     
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  23. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    I bet it's going to be the most exciting match in this whole tournament.
     
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  24. vazha Erudite

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    I am in, used to play Fumbbl for years.
     
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  25. bionicman Learned

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    A bit too late now (we're somewhere mid second round out of 7? rounds), but I assume there will be another season so you can join then. Also, who knows maybe someone drops out and you can sub in (unless I'm wrong about this being an option in the bb2 client).

    In the meantime, if you'd like to spectate the current live game with us, search for the UB United vs. Demons of Durlag match in the Cabal TV menu in bb2 (you have to enter one of the two team names into the team input field).
     
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