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Competition Codexian Wasteland 2 Location + Statue Fund-Raising Drive

CrimsonAngel

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What is the donation deadline for glorious KKKodexia? I meant to support the grorious wasteland 2, but I'd prefer to hold off until my next paycheck arrives.

Well we already got the statue, but if we can hit 10.000 we get MORE!.
 

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Well, I decided I could throw in another $50 for our prestigious fund here. Only problem is I can't remember how much I've given total :oops:! Between this and giving over at Kickstarter, this game is turning out to be quite expensive. I usually will only spend a lot for very old vintage games but I also feel like I'm contributing to a milestone in computer game making, not to mention immortalizing (and justifying) our own Codex existence!! It's kind of exciting!!
 

hiver

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Frankly i would give more too, but seeing how kickstarter and this are working quite well i think ill save some money, i shouldnt have spent at all, and give for upcoming AoD preorder too.
 

DarkUnderlord

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What is the donation deadline for glorious KKKodexia? I meant to support the grorious wasteland 2, but I'd prefer to hold off until my next paycheck arrives.
- At $5,000 we go for the statue (achieved).

- Between $5,000 - $9,000 we'll see if we can get a statue and around 200 digital copies (we can give spares away as prizes).

- If we raise $10,000 we'll go for the shrine / party option (and still see if we can wrangle 200 or so digital copies). We'll find a local to send to the party.

- For $12,000 we'll upgrade the server and move to Amazon's EC2 Cloud (Only $10k goes to KickStarter). On the basis that they already have $1.3M with 29 days to go, so the project is well and truly funded.

- At $15,000 I'll go to the party ($3,000 for airfares and expenses) and YouTube + write about it appropriately (still meaning only $10k goes into KickStarter).

- Above $15,000 we'll split 80 / 20. So 20% held for Codexian expenses (future server costs - I am slightly worried people will be worn out by this and we'll have trouble raising money later in the year if we need to) and 80% is dumped as excess cash into Wasteland 2 to make sure we have enough digital copies for everyone.

Sound reasonable / Thoughts?
 

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20% of money being spend on going to the party seems pretty excessive. There is nobody who is prestigious enough, and wants to go on his own cost?
 

hiver

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I know it would be nice to go to the party but... you know...
Not that i would mind if anyone goes in the end.
take care of the wasteland and the codex though, maybe paying traveling costs for someone local or something...

otherwise seems pretty reasonable. just an opinion.
 

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Why not put it all toward Wasteland? I'm pretty sure that's the reason why people donated so much money in the first place, no offense intended.

Then again I haven't put a cent toward this (I donated directly to the kickstarter) so I'm sure whatever I say is meaningless.
 

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Why not put it all toward Wasteland? I'm pretty sure that's the reason why people donated so much money in the first place, no offense intended.

Then again I haven't put a cent toward this (I donated directly to the kickstarter) so I'm sure whatever I say is meaningless.

Stabwound, you heathen!! Donate Now!!!

However, I do agree that all the money would be better spent pledged toward the game itself. I know it would be cool to send "one of our own" but that's not the reason for our donations. Maybe negotiate for Brian to wear a Codex shirt and/or shout-out during part of the countdown party. Double Fine had a live stream as the clock reached zero and I'm sure InXile will as well.
 

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Why not put it all toward Wasteland?

It will be all put towards W2. I doubt we'll go over $10000 anyway. Making the $10000 would be cool though.

EDIT: Also, even if we reach $10000, sending one of ours to the party won't incur additional expenses -- it's included in the package. :P All the moneys will go to W2 anyway.
 
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Project: Eternity
The Great Celebration of Wasteland 2 Had Begun
From not far from its home, there came on a white steed the Magnificent Chris Avellone, whose country was in a period of unrest
From a country inXile felt a sense of deep resentment toward came the much-reviled CliffyB, who meant to offer his deepest condolences
From the country of Bioware, responsible for much of the corruption in the world that Wasteland 2 hoped to purge, was Ray Muzyka, who intended fully to seduce all of the men at the celebration
And, as an envoy from the progressive prestigious country of RPGCodex, there was sent DarkUnderlord, who arrived drunk with two transexual prostitutes and a video camera
 
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- At $5,000 we go for the statue (achieved).

- Between $5,000 - $9,000 we'll see if we can get a statue and around 200 digital copies (we can give spares away as prizes).

- If we raise $10,000 we'll go for the shrine / party option (and still see if we can wrangle 200 or so digital copies). We'll find a local to send to the party.

- For $12,000 we'll upgrade the server and move to Amazon's EC2 Cloud (Only $10k goes to KickStarter). On the basis that they already have $1.3M with 29 days to go, so the project is well and truly funded.

- At $15,000 I'll go to the party ($3,000 for airfares and expenses) and YouTube + write about it appropriately (still meaning only $10k goes into KickStarter).

- Above $15,000 we'll split 80 / 20. So 20% held for Codexian expenses (future server costs - I am slightly worried people will be worn out by this and we'll have trouble raising money later in the year if we need to) and 80% is dumped as excess cash into Wasteland 2 to make sure we have enough digital copies for everyone.

Sound reasonable / Thoughts?

Regardless of how much we raise, spending any of it just to send an criminal colonist across the globe to a fucking party is just incredibly wasteful, no offense. If we're ever at that point to spend ~3000, it should be double the Codex imprint in the game or to negotiate something even better, like a proper quest line.

Or maybe just save it on the side for the eventual MCA/Obsidian Kickstarter project?
 

Charles-cgr

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Why not put it all toward Wasteland?

EDIT: Also, even if we reach $10000, sending one of ours to the party won't incur additional expenses -- it's included in the package. :p All the moneys will go to W2 anyway.

The debate is whether or not to spend some for airfare to send DU or someone else (and back I assume :)). I can always bring a tee along but being a newfag (and probably many other reasons) I'm definitely not the most worthy candidate.
 

Kraszu

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Why not put it all toward Wasteland?

It will be all put towards W2. I doubt we'll go over $10000 anyway. Making the $10000 would be cool though.

EDIT: Also, even if we reach $10000, sending one of ours to the party won't incur additional expenses -- it's included in the package. :p All the moneys will go to W2 anyway.

I don't see anything about Brian Fargo covering the travel cost.
 

Metro

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Regardless of how much we raise, spending any of it just to send an criminal colonist across the globe to a fucking party is just incredibly wasteful, no offense. If we're ever at that point to spend ~3000, it should be double the Codex imprint in the game or to negotiate something even better, like a proper quest line.

Or maybe just save it on the side for the eventual MCA/Obsidian Kickstarter project?

Gotta agree with this, nothing personal against DU or anyone else. I know it's only in the event the total reaches $15k but as pointed out, spending $3,000ish on one guy's travel in light of what the drive is about just seems incredibly wasteful. IMO, at $10k just cut it off. Start taking regular donations to the server and such. In the highly unlikely event you get over $2-3k after that just hold on to it for an inevitable future old-school RPG kickstarter.

People need to take a step back and look at this objectively. $10k, mission accomplished. Don't worry about 'increasing the in-game presence.' It's going to be what it's going to be.
 

Spectacle

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How about: $15,000; we donate 10K to get the shrine then use the rest to get SMA to hire a whole lot of tranny escorts then bring them all to the party, to write/video about it.
 
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People who dismiss the DU trip idea don't seem to get the simple fact that with the rules being clearly stated the way they are, anyone who contributes beyond the 10K threshold is explicitly aware they're contributing to the server upgrade fund rather than W2 and, analogically, anyone who contributes beyond the 13K threshold knows perfectly well they're donating to the DU trip fund. Anyone who does not want to do either is free to donate directly via Kickstarter (without losing fraction of the donation to Paypal fees) or simply hold on to the money in expectation of a future Obsidian drive. I for one will gladly donate again, simply because I think that in the grand scheme of things, $3K will make little to no difference to InXile at this point but make for a really cool Codex story (and maybe even extra publicity for the project: "The Most Curmudgeonly Gaming Site In Existence Sends An Envoy Halfway Across The Globe To Prevent Fargo From Implementing Gay Romance").
(Also, DU's alt.)
 

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- At $5,000 we go for the statue (achieved).

- Between $5,000 - $9,000 we'll see if we can get a statue and around 200 digital copies (we can give spares away as prizes).

- If we raise $10,000 we'll go for the shrine / party option (and still see if we can wrangle 200 or so digital copies). We'll find a local to send to the party.

- For $12,000 we'll upgrade the server and move to Amazon's EC2 Cloud (Only $10k goes to KickStarter). On the basis that they already have $1.3M with 29 days to go, so the project is well and truly funded.

- At $15,000 I'll go to the party ($3,000 for airfares and expenses) and YouTube + write about it appropriately (still meaning only $10k goes into KickStarter).

- Above $15,000 we'll split 80 / 20. So 20% held for Codexian expenses (future server costs - I am slightly worried people will be worn out by this and we'll have trouble raising money later in the year if we need to) and 80% is dumped as excess cash into Wasteland 2 to make sure we have enough digital copies for everyone.

Sound reasonable / Thoughts?
I'd agree with Metro and vots.
Nothing essentially wrong with getting additional copies, but 200 seems far too much. Most of the donors who posted about it, mentioned that they have no need of an additional copy. What would we do with all those copies? Doesn't even seem useful for competitions or anything (since we'd already be quite saturated). I'd figure out how many copies are really needed and ask for that + 10.
While the higher eschelons will probably not be reached:
I'd still make a vote about re-routing funds for a server. I'm for it, but it's not what people donated for. (If we do not reach 10k I'd still ask if some of that could be re-routed.)
I'd also only send somebody to the party if he's codex staff, does the "YouTube + write about it appropriately"-stuff and pays for travel and accomodation himself. Seems quite unfair otherwise.
 

Metro

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People who dismiss the DU trip idea don't seem to get the simple fact that with the rules being clearly stated the way they are, anyone who contributes beyond the 10K threshold is explicitly aware they're contributing to the server upgrade fund rather than W2 and, analogically, anyone who contributes beyond the 13K threshold knows perfectly well they're donating to the DU trip fund. Anyone who does not want to do either is free to donate directly via Kickstarter (without losing fraction of the donation to Paypal fees) or simply hold on to the money in expectation of a future Obsidian drive. I for one will gladly donate again, simply because I think that in the grand scheme of things, $3K will make little to no difference to InXile at this point but make for a really cool Codex story (and maybe even extra publicity for the project: "The Most Curmudgeonly Gaming Site In Existence Sends An Envoy Halfway Across The Globe To Prevent Fargo From Implementing Gay Romance").
(Also, DU's alt.)

Fair enough. If people know what they're paying for, so be it. I just think it's kind of silly to spend $3,000 that way. I mean, hell, those Tomes of Mephistopheles guys only need $3k to fund their game. I know probably half or more of the Codex couldn't care less about a dungeon crawl/roguelike combo but I'm just trying to put things in perspective on what $3,000 can do. That said, it's mostly academic since I don't think the donated amount will go past $12k.

I'm sure in lieu of a party invitation Fargo would be willing to set up some live feed Q&A or something at a later date.

Edit: Or, hell, just noticed the Banner Saga interview on the Codex -- they're doing a kick starter as well.
 

hiver

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Just an additional option to think about.
Maybe something could be spent in support of IT crew and AoD?
Seems like a worthy cause. (No kickstarter option here)

So, preordering which will go live as soon as the full Demo gets released (one of these days... next thursday at the latest!), then using those copies or boxed editions as prizes... ? Or buying some stuff from that store thing they got going, whichever gets them the most moneys.
 

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