She sees the Force as a tool. You said it yourself. She doesn't believe in emotional detachment. She only left Sith-society because she was overthrown. Not because she fundamentally disagreed with their views. Sith don't see the Force as a guiding entity but as a source of power to be harnessed for personal gain. Kreia never moved away from that attitude.
But she doesn't. She starts seeing it as some evil god. Is it impossible that a person's opinion of the Force could change after being thrown out by the Jedi and the Sith?
The Force steers people as little as God does.
Without starting a theological debate more charged than this one, you do know that that comment is in itself highly dubious?
There is no antagonistic power to the Force. The Jedi believe the Force to be benevolent and submit to its guidance in trying times. The Sith see it as a powersource. So without an antagonistic power and the Force guiding everybody why is the universe in constant strife?
According to her, because of the existence of both Jedi and Sith, and the Force's need, desire, whatever to perform a cosmic-karmic balancing-act.
Her very thesis is flawed in a crazy way.
So a character being wrong makes the character bad? I'd say that was dubious reasoning, too.
Killing the Force is also a megalomaniac goal.
How?
And if one follows your reasoning that she wants to kill the Force but also wants you to succeed because she believes that would make you independent from it but which also means that you're probably being guided by it... Well, that'd be schizophrenic.
Heaven forfend that characters should be a mess of contradictions and hypocrisies... Why, that almost suggests that
humans might not be entirely consistent in their thought.
Vault Dweller said:
I have no idea what Avellone had in mind when he was writing the ending. Quite possibly all he was thinking was "fucking Lucas Arts".
Is it not usual for the actual writing to be finished some months before implementation?
She wants to destroy the Force, doesn't she? That's why she leaves the Exile at some point and goes to Malachor determined to carry out her plans. Then you show up and kick her bitter ass and she says ... "Excellent! It's all part of my clevar plan!"?
As I recall, you say "I've come to stop you", and she says "I know", which is rather different. Also, I don't think she ever herself says that she's going to destroy the Force - everyone else reaches that assumption. One of the major themes of the game is the faulty narrator, so it shouldn't be surprising that even towards the end the player is being fed misinformation. She may say that she's going to do it at the Dantooine bit, but I don't think so.
Also, did you ever take the dialogue option "You were manipulating me all along", owtte?
Because it's a game? I mean, if a party member says "holly shit, I think we've developed a bond so I'll go with you and train you in my art" that shouldn't shock you because that's expected. Now Ravel, for example, resisted the temptation to join your party and that alone made her a more interesting and less game-y character.
Why?
Except for the part of you possibly being holier-than-Yoda, literally shining with inner light Jedi.
So being good = being a Jedi?
We all know that insults are the best arguments, and since you are new you are doing your best to fit in and act angry, but how about actually addressing my arguments instead of typing "bullshit", "only if you're an idiot", and "u r wrong, play the gaem again!!!"
Unlike that oh-so-neutral and sensible term, "butthurt"?
Vault Dweller said:
Hence the inconsistency and character design contradictions.
So contradicting herself is inherently bad character design? I'm pretty sure it was intentional, given the way her hate for the Force/loathing for the material runs right through the game (cf: the "Betrayal!" cut content relating to the droids).
This:
a) if there was no free will, people wouldn't be allowed to make mistakes and join the Dark Side, for example. The fall is always a choice.
Unless the Dark Side is still part of that big karma-balancing-act, of course.