Decline Critical role ruined PnP

[Caim]

You could be playing World of Darkness with fat smelly wiccans

I ran a game of Mage with genuinely mentally ill hippies and weirdos. Does that count? Mage always attracts those people due to needing a real world understanding of gnostism and /x/ tier schizophrenic spiritualism to play it properly. Mage is super misunderstood by people who never play it tbh. They want robe and wizard hat antics and get pissed off it's a superhero game about consenual reality and a fantasy version of the Matrix.

Play a Void Engineers game and turn it into a planetary romance in the spiritual plane or a fucked up X-COM.

 

[Alex]

You could be playing World of Darkness with fat smelly wiccans

I ran a game of Mage with genuinely mentally ill hippies and weirdos. Does that count? Mage always attracts those people due to needing a real world understanding of gnostism and /x/ tier schizophrenic spiritualism to play it properly. Mage is super misunderstood by people who never play it tbh. They want robe and wizard hat antics and get pissed off it's a superhero game about consenual reality and a fantasy version of the Matrix.

To be fair, I mostly wanted a crazy scientist antics game, with maybe non-sensical old 3d virtual reality hacking (like lawnmower man) being inserted there somewhere, except instead of hacking a computer you are in a different world altogether and it is somehow the same.

 

[ind33d]

What TTRPGs aren't about is fucking around for four hours doing improv theatre as a form of shitty therapy. Talking back and forth in character forever and putting on stupid voices to do it. Just go be a theatre kid and fuck off.

Yeah, hard disagree. There are tabletops designed for such a playstyle and there are tabletops which are designed for opposite playstyles. D&D is - or, rather, was, for majority of its history - clearly not well suited for extensive roleplay, it doesn't provide mechanical structure for it, which is why it ends up being a detached improvised theatre. D&D is a questing tabletop game. It structures itself around quests which are adventures when it comes to their content. It works best if its a quest about killing things, but heists or investigations can work as well.

Dungeons & Dragons is straightforward in what it's on about. It's a fucking dungeon-crawling system, complete with boss fights. That's it. Everything else is an afterthought, and it shows. People who claim D&D is about deep roleplay and non-dungeon-crawling encounters are fucking lunatics. Sure, you can do that in D&D, but it's either freeform RP trash or someone is about to break the quest with a couple of dicerolls or spells. You need gentleman's agreements to stop that system from collapsing from its own brokenness.

d&d is a skill-based highly lethal dungeon crawler. even just ten years ago, if you rolled a wizard, at low levels you knew you could die from one critical hit. wotc made d&d fake and gay just like they turned magic: the gathering into commander because you can't reward player skill in a country with a central bank trying to equalize outcomes like harrison bergeron

 

[NecroLord]

if you rolled a wizard, at low levels you knew you could die from one critical hit.

A house cat is a serious threat to a level 1 wizard.
Forget critical hits. One good melee or ranged hit and your wizard is dead.

 

[Alex]

if you rolled a wizard, at low levels you knew you could die from one critical hit.

A house cat is a serious threat to a level 1 wizard.
Forget critical hits. One good melee or ranged hit and your wizard is dead.

To be fair, a couple of house cats can be just a lethal to a fighter. In fact, if you rolled badly your hp you are not much better off than the magic user.

 

[Raghar]

That's problem with old systems.
Better system is having 30 HP at L1, and +3-7 HP at L2. Increase in additional HP per level might be exponential, but high levels might simply add more DR.

Problem solved.
But of course heling one HP per 3-7 days would make people bitching about every cat until they get to high enough level to be able to learn regeneration or other magical healing. Add a condition that magical healing needs healer to know the person long time to not kill that person... And you have decent system that allows interesting low level parties and low level adventures.

Add a laws against high level walking nukes, aka high level adventures moving unrestricted through the country, and you have need for low level adventurers, or people who would SERIOUSLY try to hide how extraordinary lethal they are.

 

[BrotherFrank]

There is little more humiliating for an early dnd fighter then to keep botching his hp rolls so that the wizard has more hp them him.

 

[Alex]

That's problem with old systems.
Better system is having 30 HP at L1, and +3-7 HP at L2. Increase in additional HP per level might be exponential, but high levels might simply add more DR.

Problem solved.
(...)

I think a simpler solution is simply having cats unable to really damage a human. If your average person is going to have, say, 3 hit points; then a cat clawing you shouldn't be even 1 damage.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

1. Nerds create RPG.
2. RPG became popular.
3. Corporations buy all important companies.
4. RPG became even more popular.
5. Corporates greed invitemilenial bluehairs because of trends.
6. Corporates exclude nerds.
7. Milenial bluehairs gets older, virtue signaling is not that popular as it was.
8. Milenial bluehairs go being depressed is a different place.
9. Zoomer doesn't come, reading a book is too hard for them.
10. RPG abruptly dies except few basement fulls of diabetes grognards.
11. RPG is resurrected like a phoenix by new nerd.
12. RPG became popular...

 

[JamesDixon]

That's problem with old systems.
Better system is having 30 HP at L1, and +3-7 HP at L2. Increase in additional HP per level might be exponential, but high levels might simply add more DR.

Problem solved.
But of course heling one HP per 3-7 days would make people bitching about every cat until they get to high enough level to be able to learn regeneration or other magical healing. Add a condition that magical healing needs healer to know the person long time to not kill that person... And you have decent system that allows interesting low level parties and low level adventures.

Add a laws against high level walking nukes, aka high level adventures moving unrestricted through the country, and you have need for low level adventurers, or people who would SERIOUSLY try to hide how extraordinary lethal they are.

Get rid of hit points altogether and play as the Hulk with no fear of death then... That really solves your problem with lethality. While you are at it you might as well make a campfire and sing Kumbaya.

 

[NecroLord]

That's problem with old systems.
Better system is having 30 HP at L1, and +3-7 HP at L2. Increase in additional HP per level might be exponential, but high levels might simply add more DR.

Problem solved.
But of course heling one HP per 3-7 days would make people bitching about every cat until they get to high enough level to be able to learn regeneration or other magical healing. Add a condition that magical healing needs healer to know the person long time to not kill that person... And you have decent system that allows interesting low level parties and low level adventures.

Add a laws against high level walking nukes, aka high level adventures moving unrestricted through the country, and you have need for low level adventurers, or people who would SERIOUSLY try to hide how extraordinary lethal they are.

Get rid of hit points altogether and play as the Hulk with no fear of death then... That really solves your problem with lethality. While you are at it you might as well make a campfire and sing Kumbaya.

 

[LarryTyphoid]

1. Corporates greed invitemilenial bluehairs because of trends.
2. Corporates exclude nerds.

Nerds = bluehairs

 

[JamesDixon]

That's problem with old systems.
Better system is having 30 HP at L1, and +3-7 HP at L2. Increase in additional HP per level might be exponential, but high levels might simply add more DR.

Problem solved.
But of course heling one HP per 3-7 days would make people bitching about every cat until they get to high enough level to be able to learn regeneration or other magical healing. Add a condition that magical healing needs healer to know the person long time to not kill that person... And you have decent system that allows interesting low level parties and low level adventures.

Add a laws against high level walking nukes, aka high level adventures moving unrestricted through the country, and you have need for low level adventurers, or people who would SERIOUSLY try to hide how extraordinary lethal they are.

Get rid of hit points altogether and play as the Hulk with no fear of death then... That really solves your problem with lethality. While you are at it you might as well make a campfire and sing Kumbaya.

Who is that again?

 

[udm]

SumDrunkGuy's YouTube channel

 

[NecroLord]

That's problem with old systems.
Better system is having 30 HP at L1, and +3-7 HP at L2. Increase in additional HP per level might be exponential, but high levels might simply add more DR.

Problem solved.
But of course heling one HP per 3-7 days would make people bitching about every cat until they get to high enough level to be able to learn regeneration or other magical healing. Add a condition that magical healing needs healer to know the person long time to not kill that person... And you have decent system that allows interesting low level parties and low level adventures.

Add a laws against high level walking nukes, aka high level adventures moving unrestricted through the country, and you have need for low level adventurers, or people who would SERIOUSLY try to hide how extraordinary lethal they are.

Get rid of hit points altogether and play as the Hulk with no fear of death then... That really solves your problem with lethality. While you are at it you might as well make a campfire and sing Kumbaya.

Who is that again?

SDG, the drunken mascot of RPG Codex.

 

[JamesDixon]

SDG, the drunken mascot of RPG Codex.

Who is that again? /wink wink nudge nudge

 

[Raghar]

That's problem with old systems.
Better system is having 30 HP at L1, and +3-7 HP at L2. Increase in additional HP per level might be exponential, but high levels might simply add more DR.

Problem solved.
(...)

I think a simpler solution is simply having cats unable to really damage a human. If your average person is going to have, say, 3 hit points; then a cat clawing you shouldn't be even 1 damage.

Have you encountered a European cat?

 

[lightbane]

You could be playing World of Darkness with fat smelly wiccans

I ran a game of Mage with genuinely mentally ill hippies and weirdos. Does that count? Mage always attracts those people due to needing a real world understanding of gnostism and /x/ tier schizophrenic spiritualism to play it properly. Mage is super misunderstood by people who never play it tbh. They want robe and wizard hat antics and get pissed off it's a superhero game about consenual reality and a fantasy version of the Matrix.

If that's the player base of Mage, I wonder what it would be for Changeling fans, especially NWOD ones. Or the Demon: The "X" ones.

 

[Trithne]

So I dunno how much of their catalogue this is, but apparently a large portion of Critical Role's work has been purged:

(Shit website alert)
https://gamerant.com/critical-role-youtube-videos-brian-wayne-foster-removed/

For once they destroy their own shit.

 

[lightbane]

Ah, the Stalin method. Wokes can't separate art from artist.

 

[deuxhero]

Can't wait to see the excuses and 180 when Mercer, inevitably, is found to have done some sick shit.

 

[Fedora Master]

 

[Caim]

Can't wait to see the excuses and 180 when Mercer, inevitably, is found to have done some sick shit.

He committed yellowface by voicing a Japanese character in the dubbed version of Stardust Crusaders.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

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Even the fans are tired of their voices huh?

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

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It makes no sense. A proper gag doesn't merely cover the nonhuman's face, but is inserted into their mouths.

These aren't bank robbers, they're captives.